BLACK GIRL DEBUT MAGIC™ - #57: AN '11' FALLS!!! | The Popjustice Forum
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Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Mr.Arroz, Sep 26, 2017.


Which album will be crowned the best?

This poll will close on Jan 17, 2018 at 9:38 PM.
  1. Santigold (2008)

  2. Goldenheart (2013)

  3. Aquarius (2014)

  4. Broke with Expensive Taste (2014)

  5. Ctrl (2017)

  6. Take Me Apart (2017)




    this rate could literally be Azealia tweets too tbh for how iconic and unwaveringly unapologetic she is about speaking her truth

    What’s poppin y’all? If you ain’t know by now, I’m @Mr.Arroz, one of the forum’s resident social justice advocates with a red-hot passion for all things marginalized in society, pop culture, politics, and in a Popjustice-specific lens: music, through those various intersections between the industry, identity, talent, class, gender, race, ethnicity, and a slew of other characteristics related to the politics of navigating one’s standing in society. Having registered as a member in early 2008, I’ve seen plenty a season here @Popjustice, as well as the many respective rates that have come and gone in the near decade that has passed. As my time on the forum and in the greater world itself has grown, as well as the knowledge that those years has provided too, I thought… what better time to put in the hard work of running a rate for something that I hold near and dear af to my heart: the work and talent of Black women. And to push even further with this objective, why not investigate those Black women that wildly tease, manipulate, and harness the staggering amount of social barriers placed on them in society in general, but in our case, in terms of pop music and its subsequent consumption? In approaching the creation of this rate, it was paramount to address not only #BlackLivesMatter, #SayHerName, and a range of other contemporary social moments and movements (including many but especially BLACK GIRLS ROCK) that address how we shape our worlds - but specifically how Black women push forward in times like these, resisting and responding in their own intensely unique ways. In developing my nerve and confidence to run a rate with as much power as this one could potentially involve, I called on a strong personal and internal fire to drive me further: to honor my blood, and to go further in showcasing the sheer perseverance of those that have grounded me in my own sense of humanity as a queer man of color. I hope I can do all that I can, to do them justice with you all joining alongside me as well.

    As a young bisexual man, raised among seven siblings in a hugely diverse family (Puerto Rican, Black, Choctaw, Indian, Mexican, of varying religious and linguistic backgrounds), whose formative years were spent with Black aunts, grandmothers, cousins, and most importantly, his Black mother, most of my journey in music has begun, and persisted with - the presence of Black women. The reference points in my life have been watching my mother raise me to be the man that I am today, with many years of distant co-parenting, a reality commonly evidenced as not only true of the other women in my world, but in many cases, the women that came to me on CD, though iTunes, and in today’s throwback age, vinyl. Through what many might consider fate, maybe faith, and to others maybe still, luck, I was able to enroll in and graduate from a school which changed and contextualized things that I’d witnessed as a boy/teenager in my Midwestern town. School finessed my world view and emitted me into a place that left me nothing but the supreme opportunity to pay tribute to those women that inspired me to capture dreams that I thought might always remain in my wildest imagination. Running this rate thus just feels the natural thing to do. So why not get started?!

    • Score between 0 to 10. Decimals are chill but keep it cute.
    • A single song can be your 11. Pick with care!
    • PM your scores to @Mr.Arroz anytime after voting begins.

    Here presented are some of my favorite albums ever released by Black women in recent times. A stretch of nearly a decade exists between, denoting, weirdly, the year I began college (2008) and the year I took my dream job, working for a QTPOC magazine (2017). All however, represent some of the most innovative and compelling sounds to grace the pop soundscape - including one that hasn't even fully been released just yet.

    Santigold - Santigold (April 29th, 2008)


    Youtube: Album

    1. L.E.S. Artistes
    2. You’ll Find a Way
    3. Shove It (feat. Spank Rock)
    4. Say Aha
    5. Creator
    6. My Superman
    7. Lights Out
    8. Starstruck
    9. Unstoppable
    10. I’m a Lady (feat. Trouble Andrew)
    11. Anne
    12. Your Voice

    Dawn Richard - Goldenheart (January 15th, 2013)


    Youtube: Album

    1. Intro (In the Hearts Tonight)
    2. Return of a Queen
    3. Goliath
    4. Riot
    5. Gleaux
    6. Pretty Wicked Things
    7. Northern Lights
    8. Frequency
    9. Warfaire
    10. Tug of War
    11. Ode to You
    12. ’86
    13. In Your Eyes
    14. Break of Dawn
    15. [300]
    16. Goldenheart

    Tinashe - Aquarius (October 3rd, 2014)


    Youtube: Album

    1. Aquarius
    2. Bet (feat. Dev Hynes)
    3. Cold Sweat
    4. 2 On (feat. ScHoolboy Q)
    5. How Many Times (feat. Future)
    6. Pretend (feat. A$AP Rocky)
    7. All Hands on Deck
    8. Far Side of the Moon
    9. Feels Like Vegas
    10. Thug Cry
    11. Bated Breath
    12. Wildfire
    13. Watch Me Work
    14. Vulnerable (feat. Travi$ Scott)

    Azealia Banks - Broke with Expensive Taste (November 7th, 2014)


    Youtube: Album

    1. Idle Delilah
    2. Gimme a Chance
    3. Desperado
    4. JFK (feat. Theophilus London)
    5. 212 (feat. Lazy Jay)
    6. Wallace
    7. Heavy Metal and Reflective
    8. BBD
    9. Ice Princess
    10. Yung Rapunxel
    11. Soda
    12. Chasing Time
    13. Luxury
    14. Nude Beach A-Go-Go
    15. Miss Amor
    16. Miss Camaraderie

    SZA - Ctrl (June 9th, 2017)


    Youtube: Album

    1. Supermodel
    2. Love Galore (feat. Travis Scott)
    3. Doves in the Wind (feat. Kendrick Lamar)
    4. Drew Barrymore
    5. Prom
    6. The Weekend
    7. Go Gina
    8. Garden (Say It Like Dat)
    9. Broken Clocks
    10. Anything
    11. Wavy (Interlude) [feat. James Fauntleroy]
    12. Normal Girl
    13. Pretty Little Birds (feat. Isaiah Rashad)
    14. 20 Something

    Kelela - Take Me Apart (October 6th, 2017)



    1. Frontline
    2. Waitin
    3. Take Me Apart
    4. Enough
    5. Jupiter
    6. Better
    7. LMK
    8. Truth or Dare
    9. S.O.S.
    10. Blue Light
    11. Onanon
    12. Turn to Dust
    13. Bluff
    14. Altadena


    Deadline to be determined. Voting officially opens October 6th. So make sure y'all stay ready!!! xoxoxo​
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2017 at 3:42 PM
    BML, Rem, KingBruno and 39 others like this.
  2. reserved
    Rem, A&E, Serg. and 9 others like this.
  3. also reserved
    Rem, A&E, Serg. and 9 others like this.
  4. I am not ready or worthy, but I’ll be here regardless.

  5. *gives Kelela 10s for every song*
    Island, A&E, Runawaywithme and 14 others like this.
  6. Some may say that my averages are too high but you know...
    Rem, Island, Posh Spears and 20 others like this.
  7. Great rate. I absolutely love three of the albums (Santigold, Azalea and Tinashe) and I like what I've heard from SZA and Dawn Richards, but never listened to their albums. Not really familiar with Kelela though.
    AshleyKerwin and Mr.Arroz like this.
  8. R92


    Settling in for excellence!

  9. Maybe you should press

    before starting
  10. By the way Janelle would have fit this rate perfectly.
  11. The actress? She releases music too?
  12. You expect me to pick just one 11? Mawma, this is garbage.
  13. Well her debut is actually more recent than Santigold's so it's not like it wouldn't make sense.

    On that note I really hope Santigold's album being older and her not being that big anymore doesn't hurt her scores, because her debut is amazing.
    Mr.Arroz, Vitamin, KingBruno and 5 others like this.
  14. "L.E.S. Artistes" has better make it to the top five. It's a phenomenal song, one that positively changed me.

    And, @ohnostalgia, please don't.

    @Mr.Arroz, is there actually a chance you can be persuaded to sneak in Janelle's The ArchAndroid or is that giving "Tightrope" a win too easily?
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2017
  15. Tightrope? Is she local?
    2014 was really stacked, in retrospective. I was not ready.
  16. I’ll stop when she releases some actual music again. So never.
  17. I knew why you were doing this. And it still hurts.
  18. I too hope Santigold being the oldest album here doesn't hurt it's chances, there's a lot to love on that album.

    K94, honey, Vitamin and 10 others like this.
  19. Beautiful introduction, @Mr.Arroz. I can't wait to read your (always eloquent) thoughts on these tracks.
    Kuhleezi, constantino, sesita and 6 others like this.