ddddd we've discussed this before. ABC has nothing to do with it; the show will end when Ellen is done. We know they'd keep Grey's forever if they could. Ellen literally stated like a week ago that she and Krista have begun talks about how it will end. She signed a 2-year contract because they wanted to surpass ER in length. It's very, very unlikely that they keep going beyond season 16. It's not impossible, but it's unlikely. Also, every network is in pretty much the same state as ABC. They're actually #1 in the demo this year, with Roseanne and Grey's being 2 of the biggest shows on TV and The Good Doctor being the biggest new broadcast drama of the season.