Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RainOnFire, Nov 19, 2014.
You helped. ;)
I'm clearing a large amount Sunday and then it'll be a top 150 countdown kind of thing, to make up for the delay. Certainly bit off more than I could chew. Sorry for the delays and inconveniences to everyone.
I'm on board for Hazey's mega-rate, (I know the majority of the songs already...oops)
Kii at Victoria Justice in an Ari-free zone.
Okay but I think we ALL know that it would be a crime to host this rate and exclude the absolutely iconic "Best Friend's Brother"
Is there a Grimes rate (I don't see one on the completed rates list)? If not, I would love to run one after her new album comes out this year.
Yeah, I don't see a Grimes rate on the completed rates list and her new album will probably be out by the time I get to the top of the queue, so can you sign me up for Grimes @RainOnFire?
I honestly didn't think anybody would call for that particular song, but I decided against it and All I Want Is Everything and have her best represented. Sorry!
The Natalia Kills Rate has been resuscitated! It's time for part deux, and if any one of you guys wanna join in you have until Sunday January 14th 9 AM CET to give me your scores and commentaries. We desperately need more people to join in, and it's only 20+ songs to rate - so give it a go!
Here's the link to the songs still in the running.
So here's an idea that got floated in my current 90's rate thread: a rate for 90's one-hit wonders. Love that idea, personally. I wouldn't take it on right now myself (I've still got to finish the 1990-94 half of my current rate and do the 1995-99 half, after all), but I'm wondering if there's anybody else out there who'd be winning to run such a thing?
Ready to 11 the 4 Non Blondes (I actually have a working list of one hit wonders at home; not only 90's songs).
Can you sign me up for a CHVRCHES rate @RainOnFire? I might end up changing my mind if they don't release a 3rd album by the time it comes around but this is the idea I wanna do the most currently.
Interestingly (?) when Younger Younger 28s failed to set the charts on fire they became a wedding band called One-Hit Wonders, playing covers of one-hit wonders' hits.
Wish I could find footage of them somewhere, but searching for "one hit wonders" surprisingly didn't return the results I wanted.
Ooo, I'd definitely vote. Let me tag @Animalia as potential voter too.
I actually did come up with a working list of songs that would be included should it ever come to pass... but there's 72 of them, so it would probably have to be cut down, so as not to put people off (as this would be a pretty niche rate as it is).
Spoiler: One Hit Wonderful
A Girl Like You - Edwyn Collins
Baby Got Back - Sir Mix-a-Lot
Barely Breathing - Duncan Sheik
Bitch - Meredith Brooks
Bittersweet Symphony - The Verve
Black Velvet - Alannah Myles
Blue (Da Ba Dee) - Eiffel 65
Breakfast at Tiffany's - Deep Blue Something
Brick - Ben Folds Five
Cannonball - The Breeders
Closing Time - Semisonic
Connected - Stereo MC's
Cotton Eye Joe - Rednex
Counting Blue Cars - Dishwalla
Criminal - Fiona Apple
Crush - Jennifer Paige
Epic - Faith No More
Fade Into You - Mazzy Star
Flagpole Sitta - Harvey Danger
Groove is in the Heart - Deee-Lite
Here Comes the Hotstepper - Ini Kamoze
How Bizarre - OMC
I Know - Dionne Farris
I Love You Always Forever - Donna Lewis
I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers
I'm Too Sexy - Right Said Fred
Informer - Snow
In the Meantime - Spacehog
I Touch Myself - Divinyls
I Try - Macy Gray
I Wish - Skee-Lo
Jump Around - House of Pain
Just a Friend - Biz Markie
Kiss Me - Sixpence None the Richer
Life is a Highway - Tom Cochrane
Lovefool - The Cardigans
Lullaby - Shawn Mullins
Macarena - Los Del Rio
Mambo No. 5 - Lou Bega
Missing - Everything But the Girl
Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm - Crash Test Dummies
My Own Worst Enemy - Lit
No Rain - Blind Melon
Nothing Compares 2 U - Sinead O'Connor
One Headlight - The Wallflowers
One of Us - Joan Osborne
Pepper - Butthole Surfers
Possum Kingdom - Toadies
Save Tonight - Eagle-Eye Cherry
Sex and Candy - Marcy Playground
She's So High - Tal Bachman
Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth With Money in My Hand - Primitive Radio Gods
Steal My Sunshine - Len
Sunny Came Home - Shawn Colvin
The Bad Touch - Bloodhound Gang
The Freshmen - The Verve Pipe
The Impression That I Get - The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
There She Goes - The La's
Torn - Natalie Imbruglia
Tubthumping - Chumbawamba
Unbelievable - EMF
Walking in Memphis - Marc Cohn
What It's Like - Everlast
What is Love - Haddaway
What's Up? - 4 Non Blondes
Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
Wicked Game - Chris Isaak
Would I Lie to You - Charles and Eddie
You Get What You Give - New Radicals
You Gotta Be - Des'ree
Your Woman - White Town
Zoot Suit Riot - Cherry Poppin' Daddies
This also led to some angst over who does and does not qualify as a one-hit wonder:
Spoiler: OVER-JUSTIFYING MYSELF!!!
When I categorized songs as "one-hit wonders", I meant artists who had one hit in America specifically. I know some of these artists were a lot bigger in other places, like The Verve in the UK, Tom Cochrane in Canada and the Divinyls in Australia, but they all only had one American hit, so they went on the list. And because these are American one-hit wonders, I didn't include the likes of Babylon Zoo or Stiltskin, because their one hits didn't make it to America at all.
Timing was a bit of a problem, too. For example, "Epic" first appeared on a 1989 album, but wasn't released as a single until 1990. "Just a Friend" was released as a single and on an album in 1989, but took until 1990 to peak. "The Bad Touch" was released as a single in 1999, but didn't peak or get put on an album until 2000. "I Try" was released as a single in 1999... but not in America, that took until 2000. However, I ultimately decided that if it was released as a single in the 90's, or reached its peak on the chart in the 90's, or both, it counts.
I dithered on including artists like Faith No More, the Butthole Surfers, Fiona Apple, Ben Folds and Chris Isaak, because they have big cult followings and critical acclaim. Sure, they only have one top 40 hit, but by that standard, Frank Zappa and the Grateful Dead are one-hit wonders too. But at the end of the day... they only have one massive hit song that the GP would recognize, so they can go on here. However, I opted to exclude Beck by this standard, just for being TOO acclaimed (across multiple albums) and influential, and I decided that his other hits on the alternative side were big enough that he wasn't a one-hit wonder for "Loser".
I didn't know whether to include some artists, like The La's, The Breeders and Mazzy Star on here, because their songs didn't make the top 40, so really, they're no-hit wonders. But since the songs are still well-known (particularly among indie crowds) in spite of that, I decided that they could be included. Also, y'know, because I like them.
Finally, there's some artists who are popularly considered to be "one-hit wonders", but actually aren't.
Vanilla Ice? Had a #4 hit as his follow-up to "Ice Ice Baby".
Kris Kross? Three other top 20 hits that aren't "Jump".
Soul Asylum? They have another #20 hit that isn't "Runaway Train", and a third song that topped the Modern Rock chart (albeit one that didn't cross over).
Billy Ray Cyrus? No other pop hits after "Achy Breaky Heart", but several other country hits.
The Rembrandts? Had a single that got higher on the charts than "I'll Be There for You".
Aqua? A few other songs that just missed the top 20 that weren't "Barbie Girl".
MC Hammer? REALLY not a one-hit wonder; he had four other top 10 hits than "U Can't Touch This"!
However, EMF and Snow both made the list, even though they have a top 20 hit each other than "Unbelievable" and "Informer". Their follow-up songs, I decided, fell down the charts too quickly, and were so non-remembered that they can't count as two-hit wonders the way Vanilla Ice (for example) can.
Anyway, I'm putting this out there as a concept for anybody who might want to run it. If there's nobody, I'll make it my next project in the queue when my current rate is done (which will probably take a few more months to complete in its entirety).
I see like five clear 11s in that list, which is problematic.
Also I can't believe there was actually an act called Cherry Poppin' Daddies...
Is it bad that I own albums by many of these one-hit wonders, and in some case multiple albums?
I think you can potentially make the list smaller by excluding obvious big names like Imbruglia and other songs that have recently been rated such as on both 90s rates you are doing. People would have had a chance to discuss those in other circumstances, allowing the others to shine a bit more too.
Let's not remove the best ones!
Well, US chart success aside, a lot of these acts have great discographies.
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