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The Cursed Alicia Keys Rate Recommences: Was This Rate Worth It?

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Heaven on Earth, Dec 9, 2017.

  1. Once upon a time, in a hot-pink pop paradise far away, with ice cream skies, there was a rate started by @D.F.P. This rate was to be dedicated to the divine Alicia Keys, queen of the piano, queen of amazing songs, queen of everything. A recent immigrate to this pop paradise was @Heaven on Earth who, while not being the biggest Alicia Keys fan and honestly wouldn’t have come up with the idea to host this rate, adored quite a number of songs and, being the eager newbie and an avid music lover, wanted to participate to honor the Woman of the Hour. After a nerve-wracking, last-minute rating session, this divine person got his scores in. Like any other member of the Rating Guild, experienced or not, he prayed for the songs he loved to do well and trembled in anticipation of seeing which will stand tall above the rest.

    Finally, the day of the reckoning came and the trumpets prepared to blast. Much to the crowd’s surprise, only a weak note came out from all those trumpets. The Alicia Keys rate was in trouble as the music that had kept @D.F.P. functioning flatlined. To this day, no one is sure what has happened and sincerely pray for the wonderful host’s safe return. But before the mysterious disappearance, a note was left behind, detailing the first seven songs to be revealed. It was on the basis of this that that brave newcomer @Heaven on Earth decided to dedicate some of his time away from the upcoming Annie discography rate and host this. What could go wrong?

    It seems that there is a curse placed upon the hosts for this rate. Maybe due to the Queen’s fury that more people didn’t vote in this like she deserved, she placed a curse on this. After all, karma is karma. Or maybe part of the curse that affected @D.F.P. has somewhat leaked onto @Heaven on Earth. Well, whatever the karma may be, it should know that we’re dealing with someone who doesn’t give up easily. Even though he needs to get the scores and commentaries done like yesterday for @Ironheade's sure-to-be-iconic ’90s Billboard #1’s rate and @constantino's already insane Alt Pop Girls rate, he’ll fix his schedule around just to make sure “Karma” gets what it deserves. And, now, what do you say we make this a success?

  2. Reserved because I can.
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  3. Reserved because I will.
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  4. Let'sbring it on!
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  5. Let's see...​

    111. Prelude to a Kiss
    AVERAGE: 5.523​

    In 1938, Duke Ellington wrote the torch song standard called “Prelude to a Kiss.” In 1992, Meg Ryan and Alec Baldwin teamed up to star in a movie adaptation of a successful Broadway play called Prelude to a Kiss. In 2007, Alicia Keys released a song called “Prelude to a Kiss” on her commercially successful album As I Am. In order from best to worst: 1) the Duke Ellington torch song; 2) the Alicia Keys song; 3) the movie. The last two are considerably far from the first and honestly could be switched depending on your disposition.

    To understand my issue with this song, one particular review in the Washington Post for As I Am highlights an overlying problem with Alicia Keys’ catalogue: “She’s an effective but generally unimaginative lyricist whose writings tends to be simple, weirdly impersonal and wholly average, with a few exceptions – not least her terrific singles ‘Fallin’’ and ‘You Don’t Know My Name.’” Now, don’t get me wrong, I so wouldn’t say this about her entire catalogue, but it’s so true about this song, one which she apparently wrote after a trip to Africa and seeing people live in poverty. Yeah, I wouldn’t have gathered that from this final product. Of course, the piano is great and her vocals are nice, but they’re average. Alicia has done better in both departments.

    Ultimately, this song is one of the weakest links of a really good album and I don’t think anyone will be too fussed about this one being out first in this revamped and remastered rate. Except maybe @Sprockrooster.
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  6. I can live with that elimination. Thank you for resurrecting this, @Heaven on Earth!

    Could you please include the highest and lowest scorers?
  7. I don't have @D.F.P.'s scores or @HollyDunnSomething's or @A&E's, so it'd be incomplete.
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  8. I only did the singles so feel free to ignore mine.
  9. I was going to ignore the highest/lowest scores anyway. Sorry, @londonrain. I was just going to reveal the scores for those spectacular people who did the commentaries.

    I really wish @D.F.P. had sent @RainOnFire all the 411. I think I've bashed the poor person enough.
  10. Ah. Then which scores are the averages and rankings based on?

    (And did nobody provide commentary for this song? Poor it.)
  11. The averages which @D.F.P. turned in to @RainOnFire.

    And a lot of songs didn't get commentaries. Poor them.
  12. Oh, I see. Did we get any additional voters in the end, or are the averages still the same as they were when the rate was abandoned?
  13. @soratami is the new voter, sadly as you'll see the next elimination.
  14. [​IMG]
  15. Coming from the person who gave "Another Way to Die" a three.

    @soratami, why?

    110. Every Little Bit Hurts [Live]
    AVERAGE: 5.611

    The second single from her 2005 live album, Unplugged, “Every Little Bit Hurts” is a cover of Brenda Holloway’s 1963 hit single of the same name. And it didn’t deserve to go out until, like, at least twenty places down – and it certainly isn’t a zero, @soratami. While it’s certainly not as great as the other single from the album, “Unbreakable,” it’s still a rather enjoyable listen. It’s kind of obvious to see why she was attracted to the original to cover. My only issue with the song is actually that I want to feel some authentic passion from Alicia’s part, which is a shame because the blueprint is good and she is capable of scalping wigs. It’s just a bit reserved, in my opinion, though whatever magic the song contains opens itself up slowly with each listen.

    @Sprockrooster (7) writes, “This song has always seem to suffer a bit from the hattrick knockout on the album that is about to come after this song with ‘Streets of New York,’ ‘Wild Horses’ and ‘Diary.’ All those three are absolute killer performances. And ‘Wild Horses,’ a cover from the Rolling Stones which I stan a lot, is absolutely done brilliant. The more rocky version from the Stones can definitely need some soul from Alicia. From ‘Every Little Bit Hurts,’ I particularly love the outro. The gospel part is definitely strong.” Well, if you wanted to his thoughts on her cover of “Wild Horses,” you got it. I must admit that I haven’t heard the album aside from the two singles so I will definitely check it out. You’ve piqued my interest.
  16. Sorry (Not Sorry) I'm just generally not here for live songs, unless they're particularly outstanding.

    I only gave six 0s out of 118 songs though, and I think one or two at least were for songs that already left.
  17. Wow, this one hurts.

    109. Not Even the King
    AVERAGE: 5.714

    Really? You kick one of the best songs from Girl on Fire this early? I see how this is going to go. Well, your host barely respectfully disagrees with those who gave it a middling score. How can one listen to this wonderful mediation on the same old “money can’t buy happiness” trope and give it a low score? Just look at this verse:

    All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
    They came marching through
    They offered the world just to have what we got
    But I found the world in you
    I found the world in you

    Starting with such evocative imagery of great power, using well known phrases, the verse ultimately becomes a parable on happiness and greed. Alicia’s refusal to give up love and happiness for wealth is something that’s becoming a little too rare in an increasingly materialistic and technical world. Sometimes the greatest blessing in life is true human connection, and while this track may not as obviously great as some of her others, it expresses something I usually have difficulty expressing my need for into a distinct, visceral song. And it’s going out at #109? Really?

    And, yes, the verse I offered as an example is one of my favorites out of her catalogue. @londonrain (7) apparently disagrees with me, “The lyrics seem a bit clichéd for Alicia, but it’s a nice enough song.” Well, Emeli Sandé co-wrote the song, and maybe her contribution here wasn’t good enough for you people, but it works here. It’s more than just “a nice enough song.”

    The lyrics were so good, it was blessed with a video.
  18. Eh, I can live without that one.

    It’s way better than most of Here, though. Can we recommence culling that a bit?
  19. Wow. Not even my points could save that one.
  20. Is this stopping again? Cursed redux?
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