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The Solange Rate - Voting open till July 31st

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Sprockrooster, Jun 25, 2017.

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    It was about time we would pay huge respect to miss Solange Knowles. So let us all take a seat at this rate and go through most of Sol-Angel's catalog and hand out some true honest scores.

    Solange manages to shift effortlessly between the motown sound and the current indie and neo-soul landscape. Paying respect to music of the old days and still sound fresh enough for today's climate. It didnot start like that. It all started at an age of 14 when she released her debut album 'Solo Star' on Boxing Day in 2002. Titlewise it is probably some weird pun to her big sister who was currently in Destiny's Child and on the verge of her solo career too. Despite a reissue in 2006 this tanked massively and hasnot been even put on i-tunes. Physically it hasnot been printed anymore and is now officially a 'rare album'. Things changed a bit with her second effort 'Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams'. She dropped the dancepop and embraced motown. Vocally and lyrically there was some real growth. It was also much more well received than it's predecessor. Aside from some side events, things turned quiet again. But we didnot lost her and True was ready to enter our lives. A return to form, despite it's shortness in tracklist and era impact. Things turned got coldish again, only to be reignited massively by that amazing opus last year. An album that made me realise this woman needs a rate desperately. And if nobody else will, she is mine. And here we are.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2017
  2. THE SONGS

    The first album 'Solo Star' is optional!

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    Solo Star
    1: Feeling You (Part 2) (feat. N.O.R.E.)
    2: Ain't No Way
    3: Dance With You (feat. B2K)
    4: Get Together
    5: Crush
    6: So Be It
    7: True Love (Feat. Lil' Romeo)
    8: Feel Good Song
    9: Wonderland
    10: This Could Be Love
    11: Feelin' You (Part 1)
    12: Just Like You
    13: Thinkin' About You (Feat. Murphy Lee)
    14: Solo Star
    15: I Used To
    16: Sky Away
    17: This Song's For You
    18: Naïve (Feat. Beyoncé and Da Brat)
    19: Bring It On Home
    20: Blinded - unfindable only via illegal ways. If you do not have or find it, you can leave it out during rating.






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    Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams
    1 God Given Name
    2 T.O.N.Y.
    3 Dancing in the Dark
    4 Would've Been The One
    5 Sandcastle Disco (solo) // Sandcastle Disco (Remix featuring Q-Tip)
    6 I Decided, Part 1
    7 Valentine's Day
    8 6 O'Clock Blues
    9 Ode To Marvin
    10 I Told You So
    11 Cosmic Journey
    12 This Bird
    13 I Decided, Part 2
    14 Wanna Go Back (Feat. Marsha Ambrosius & Q-Tip)
    15 White Picket Dreams
    16 ChampagneChroniKnightCap (solo) // ChampagneChroniKnightCap (Remix featuring Lil Wayne)
    17 Fuck The Industry (Signed Sincerely)
    18 The Thrill Is Gone (Feat. BB King)







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    True
    1 Losing You
    2 Some Things Never Seem To Fucking Work
    3 Locked In Closets
    4 Lovers In The Parking Lot
    5 Don't Let Me Down
    - Look Good With Trouble
    6 Bad Girls (Verdine Version)





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    A Seat At The Table
    1 Rise
    2 Weary
    - The Glory Is In You
    3 Cranes In The Sky
    - Dad Was Mad
    4 Mad
    5 Don't You Wait
    - Tina Taught Me
    6 Don't Touch My Hair
    - This Moment
    7 Where Do We Go
    - For Us By Us
    8 F.U.B.U.
    9 Borderline (An Ode To Self-Care)
    - I Got So Much Magic, You Can Have It
    10 Junie
    - No Limits
    11 Don't Wish Me Well
    - Pedestals
    12 Scales
    - The Chosen Ones





    The extra's are optional! SPOTIFY playlist (missing a few)
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    Extra's - non-features
    1 Freedom [from Johnson Family Vacation OST]
    2 The Proud Family (feat. Destiny's Child) [From 8 Days of Christmas]

    3 Sandcastle Disco (Freemasons Edit) [U.S. Hot Dance #1]
    4 Twinkle Twinkle Little Star [From Baby Jamz and Nursery Rhymes]
    5 The Wheels On The Bus [From Baby Jamz and Nursery Rhymes]
    6 Hush Little Baby [From Baby Jamz and Nursery Rhymes]
    7 Stillness is the Move [Dirty Projectors Cover]
    8 Sleep In The Park [Losing You B-side]
    9 Looks Good With Trouble (Feat. Kendrick Lamar) [Remix single]
    10 Cash In [From Saint Heron Mixtape]
    11 T.O.N.Y. (Grown and Sexy) [That outro is essential and I will not hear otherwise]





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    Extra's - features
    1 Little Drummer Boy (with Destiny's Child)
    2 When The Night Falls (with Chromeo)
    3 Hey Goldmember (with Beyoncé)
    4 Simply Deep (with Kelly Rowland)
    5 Flying Overseas (with Theophilus London)
    6 Sex Karma (with Of Montreal)
    7 Kenya (with Chris Taylor)
    8 Semicolon (with the Lonely Island)
    9 Twice (with Robert Glasper)
    10 Electric Lady (with Janelle Monae)
    11 Lost on the Way Home (with Chromeo)





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    Extra's - leaks and semi-releases
    1 Favors
    2 Under Construction
    3 Generation
    4 Electric Blue
    5 Calendar
    6 Whipped (Feat. LeToya Luckett)
    7 Left Side Drive (Feat. Boards of Canada)





    THE INTERLUDES
    If you like it you can also score the interludes and they can have their own mini-rate as they will NOT be part of the official countdown. It is a bit weird to compare them with actual songs, but I am eager to find out how they rank among each other. Score them from 0-10 as you wish and you can also comment on it. This is optional and nothing more than a fun side thing.






    SCORING
    You can decide what you are going to rate mostly. If you do not want to sit through the debut again you can skip it. It is optional and the same goes for all the extra's. If you are doing the extra's you do not necessarily have to do the debut too. If you are going to rate the extra's you have to do them all, the same goes for 'Solo Star' (Blinded is excluded from this narrative).

    Score your song from 0-10 and you have that one sole 11. Choose it wisely. I always want to emphasise on the fact this rate probably doesnot have a lot voters and that low scores have a lot effect. Take that into account when scoring. Obviously trolling is not appreciated, but commentary is! Send the scores to me via a conversation.

    Voting closes July 31st!

    Below is a PM-able list (had to cut in two because of length):
    Solo Star
    1 Feeling You (Part 2)
    2 Ain't No Way
    3 Dance With You
    4 Get Together
    5 Crush
    6 So Be It
    7 True Love
    8 Feel Good Song
    9 Wonderland
    10 This Could Be Love
    11 Feelin' You (Part 1)
    12 Just Like You
    13 Thinkin' About You
    14 Solo Star
    15 I Used To
    16 Sky Away
    17 This Song's For You
    19 Naïve
    19 Bring It On Home
    20 Blinded
    Sol-Angel and the St. Hadley Dreams
    1 God Given Name
    2 T.O.N.Y.
    3 Dancing in the Dark
    4 Would've Been The One
    5 Sandcastle Disco
    6 I Decided, Part 1
    7 Valentine's Day
    8 6 O'Clock Blues
    9 Ode To Marvin
    10 I Told You So
    11 Cosmic Journey
    12 This Bird
    13 I Decided, Part 2
    14 Wanna Go Back
    15 White Picket Dreams
    16 ChampagneChroniKnightCap
    17 Fuck The Industry (Signed Sincerely)
    18 The Thrill Is Gone


    True
    1 Losing You
    2 Some Things Never Seem To Fucking Work
    3 Locked In Closets
    4 Lovers In The Parking Lot
    5 Don't Let Me Down
    - Look Good With Trouble
    6 Bad Girls (Verdine Version)


    A Seat At The Table
    1 Rise
    2 Weary
    - The Glory Is In You
    3 Cranes In The Sky
    - Dad Was Mad
    4 Mad
    5 Don't You Wait
    - Tina Taught Me
    6 Don't Touch My Hair
    - This Moment
    7 Where Do We Go
    - For Us By Us
    8 F.U.B.U.
    9 Borderline (An Ode To Self-Care)
    - I Got So Much Magic, You Can Have It
    10 Junie
    - No Limits
    11 Don't Wish Me Well
    - Pedestals
    12 Scales
    - The Chosen Ones


    The extra's - non-features
    1 Freedom
    2 The Proud Family

    3 Sandcastle Disco (Freemasons Edit)
    4 Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
    5 The Wheels On The Bus
    6 Hush Little Baby
    7 Stillness is the Move
    8 Sleep In The Park
    9 Looks Good With Trouble
    10 Cash In
    11 T.O.N.Y. (Grown and Sexy)


    The Extra's - features
    1 Little Drummer Boy
    2 When The Night Falls
    3 Hey Goldmember
    4 Simply Deep
    5 Flying Overseas
    6 Sex Karma
    7 Kenya
    8 Semicolon
    9 Twice
    10 Electric Lady
    11 Lost on the Way Home


    The Extra's - Leaks and semi-releases
    1 Favors
    2 Under Construction
    3 Generation
    4 Electric Blue
    5 Calendar
    6 Whipped
    7 Left Side Drive
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2017
  3. Reserved for results.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2017
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  4. Hmm... I was excited for this rate until I saw this whole selective discography thing.
     
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  5. You would want do it all? Normally too much tracks kills interest for a rate. Not me doing it with the exact opposite... Is there a specific part you would want to see in the rate?

    I could try out a part that isnot obligatory for voting? So that people who want to keep it small. But people who want do it all, can do it all.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2017
  6. These are the songs that I will add if there is enough demand for them (if most people want to them all that is also good):

    Solo Star
    1: Feeling You (Part 2) (feat. N.O.R.E.)
    2: Ain't No Way
    3: Dance With You (feat. B2K)
    4: Get Together
    5: Crush
    6: So Be It
    7: True Love (Feat. Lil' Romeo)
    8: Feel Good Song
    9: Wonderland
    10: This Could Be Love
    11: Feelin' You (Part 1)
    12: Just Like You
    13: Thinkin' About You (Feat. Murphy Lee)
    14: Solo Star
    15: I Used To
    16: Sky Away
    17: This Song's For You
    18: Naïve (Feat. Beyonce and Da Brat)'
    19: Blinded
    20: Bring It On Home

    All the tracks (aside from 'Blinded') are on youtube, but if they are geo-blocked I am not sure how I can help voters who cannot view them (since most of them are unstreamable also). It seems unlikely they would be geo-blocked so that wouldnot be issue I guess. I might make this not mandatory however.

    Extra's - non-features
    21: Freedom
    22: The Proud Family
    23: Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
    24: The Wheels On The Bus
    25: Stillness is the Move

    Extra's - features
    26: Little Drummer Boy
    27: When The Night Falls
    28: Hey Goldmember
    29: Simply Deep
    30: Flying Overseas
    31: Sex Karma
    32: Kenya
    33: Semicolon
    34: Twice
    35: Electric Lady
    36: Lost On The Way Home

    Leaks / Unreleased
    37: Favors
    38: Under Construction
    39: Generation
    40: Electric Blue
    41: Calendar
    42: Whipped
    43: Left Side Drive
     
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  7. I am currently undecided whether we should do a full discography rate or a selected discography rate (to have a shot at more voters), but I ain't losing you if you want a full discography (and it probably leads to a hybrid of both version). But I need your opinion! Since you showed interest in this rate (most of you liking the page when I mention it) I am asking to give your thoughts. What to do?

    @1991
    @2014
    @Alouder98
    @AshleyKerwin
    @beyoncésweave

    Option 1: A full rate (with the 20-track Solo Star as a non-mandatory part, because of availability issues)
    Option 2: A selected rate (and you have a say in what is added)
    Option 3: Both, but with different amount of voters for several parts.
    Option 4: You do not really mind.
     
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  8. I am currently undecided whether we should do a full discography rate or a selected discography rate (to have a shot at more voters), but I ain't losing you if you want a full discography (and it probably leads to a hybrid of both version). But I need your opinion! Since you showed interest in this rate (most of you liking the page when I mention it) I am asking to give your thoughts. What to do?

    @constantino
    @eccentricsimply
    @HeartSwells
    @Kuhleezi
    @LA Hallucinations

    Option 1: A full rate (with the 20-track Solo Star as a non-mandatory part, because of availability issues)
    Option 2: A selected rate (and you have a say in what is added)
    Option 3: Both, but with different amount of voters for several parts.
    Option 4: You do not really mind.
     
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  9. I am currently undecided whether we should do a full discography rate or a selected discography rate (to have a shot at more voters), but I ain't losing you if you want a full discography (and it probably leads to a hybrid of both version). But I need your opinion! Since you showed interest in this rate (most of you liking the page when I mention it) I am asking to give your thoughts. What to do?

    @Lander
    @londonrain
    @Mr.Arroz
    @ohnostalgia
    @Petty Mayonnaise

    Option 1: A full rate (with the 20-track Solo Star as a non-mandatory part, because of availability issues)
    Option 2: A selected rate (and you have a say in what is added)
    Option 3: Both, but with different amount of voters for several parts.
    Option 4: You do not really mind.
     
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  10. I am currently undecided whether we should do a full discography rate or a selected discography rate (to have a shot at more voters), but I ain't losing you if you want a full discography (and it probably leads to a hybrid of both version). But I need your opinion! Since you showed interest in this rate (most of you liking the page when I mention it) I am asking to give your thoughts. What to do?

    @RainOnFire
    @send photo
    @Stradiwhovius
    @Serg.
    @Terminus

    Option 1: A full rate (with the 20-track Solo Star as a non-mandatory part, because of availability issues)
    Option 2: A selected rate (and you have a say in what is added)
    Option 3: Both, but with different amount of voters for several parts.
    Option 4: You do not really mind.

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    Obviously if you are not tagged you have a say too! I just had no idea you were interested!
     
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  11. Option A hen.
     
  12. I guess Lander is going for that too, so that already makes two, which positively surprises me!
     
  13. I'm not familiar with her material so I won't participate, but if some people want to do the full rate and some others or yourself want to do a selected discography, I think you can add extra and unreleased songs as optional songs to the rate, like what we did in Nicki Minaj rate.
     
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  14. I've seen this and I'm so tempted to take part. But then I have a lot of other rates to complete and my own is just about to start. But then the songs in here aren't that many. But then I'm leaving in a few weeks and I don't have much time. But then I would find out the behind-the-scenes of Electric Lady and what exactly is Solange's contribution (is it the robotic vocal adlibs towards the end like I've been suspecting?).

    I have such doubts.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2017
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  15. To be fair, I doubted long to add Solange for Electric Lady, but I was guessing they were the vocal adlibs you were talking about. First it was not part as I felt like if I added Electric Lady and I would need to add Michelle Williams' 'We Break The Dawn' because she also delivered background vocals for that too. But with the latter one it is even more unclear and she isnot officially featured on the track.

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    If it would become a rate where the extra's are not mandatory, let's say the 36-track thing, would that be able to do?

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    Well, you could also get to know her! There are many gems in here! Obviously no worries if you do not participate!!
     
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  16. It would be much easier for me (though to be fair I've already played many times A Seat At The Table and Losing You), but I believe, as a host, you have the right to take the final decision.
     
  17. 2014

    2014 Moderator

    I'll take part no matter what you decide to do Sprocky xxx
     
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  18. Solange is my love, whatever happens I'm in.
     
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  19. I'm definitely in if I don't have to go through the chore of listening to Solo Star again, so option three suits me the best. Anyway, THANK YOU for doing this rate!
     
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  20. I think the option of everything with her debut as optional is fine!
     
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