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The Winner's Gonna Take It All: The ABBA Discography Rate. #17

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Remorque, Feb 8, 2017.

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    'I've often wondered how did it all start... Who found out that nothing can capture a heart like a melody can...'
    - Agnetha Fältskog in Thank You for the Music -

    Two couples.

    A love for each other.

    A love of pure pop music.

    That's what started their journey. In the early '70s Agnetha Fältskog, Björn Ulvaeus, Benny Andersson and Anni-Frid Lyngstad started performing together as a quartet and the rest is history.

    They became one of the most commercially successful acts to come from Sweden ever. They topped the charts worldwide for 8 years after winning the Eurovision Song Contest in 1974. Bjorn and Benny were very much the creative forces behind the band, having the knack for creating a fucking fantastic melody and constantly perfecting their songwriting and experimenting with vocal arrangements. And that's where the girls came in. Agnetha's soprano and Frida's mezzo-soprano voices sounded so beautifully together and lent themselves so wonderfully to the type of music the boys were creating.

    Together they made magic.

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    And that's what we're celebrating here today. 8 albums. 102 songs.

    But first:
    - You are to rate every song included in the rate, extras and all.
    - You are to rate every song with a score from 0-10. Half marks are allowed.
    - You're allowed to give one song that elusive 11.
    - Commentary is welcomed and highly encouraged!
    - Rate your 'best version' of the tracks. I really don't fucking care which version of Ring Ring you love the best, which language version of Waterloo you like rather than the other or what extended version of Voulez-Vous is the one.
    - We're not rating unreleased demos, snippets, Swedish rarities or ABBA Undeleted. That's final and you will all deal.

    Them's the rules.

    What we are rating:

    Ring Ring - 1973

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    1 - Ring Ring
    2 – Another Town, Another Train
    3 – Disillusion
    4 – People Need Love
    5 – I Saw It in the Mirror
    6 – Nina, Pretty Ballerina
    7 – Love Isn’t Easy (But It Sure Is Hard Enough)
    8 – Me and Bobby and Bobby’s Brother
    9 – He Is Your Brother
    10 – She’s My Kind of Girl
    11 – I Am Just a Girl
    12 – Rock’n Roll Band

    13 – Merry-Go-Round
    14 – Santa Rosa


    Waterloo - 1974
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    1 - Waterloo
    2 – Sitting in the Palmtree
    3 – King Kong Song
    4 – Hasta Mañana
    5 – My Mama Said
    6 – Dance (While the Music Still Goes On)
    7 – Honey, Honey
    8 – Watch Out
    9 – What About Livingstone?
    10 – Gonna Sing You My Lovesong
    11 – Suzy-Hang-Around


    ABBA - 1975
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    1 - Mamma Mia
    2 – Hey, Hey Helen
    3 – Tropical Loveland
    4 – SOS
    5 – Man in the Middle
    6 – Bang-A-Boomerang
    7 – I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
    8 – Rock Me
    9 – Intermezzo No. 1
    10 – I’ve Been Waiting for You
    11 – So Long


    Arrival - 1976
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    1 - When I Kissed the Teacher
    2 – Dancing Queen
    3 – My Love, My Life
    4 – Dum Dum Diddle
    5 – Knowing Me, Knowing You
    6 – Money, Money, Money
    7 – That’s Me
    8 – Why Did It Have to Be Me?
    9 – Tiger
    10 – Arrival

    11 – Crazy World
    12 – Happy Hawaii
    13 - Fernando


    ABBA: The Album - 1977
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    1 - Eagle
    2 – Take a Chance on Me
    3 – One Man, One Woman
    4 – The Name of the Game
    5 – Move On
    6 – Hole in Your Soul
    7 – Thank You for the Music
    8 – I Wonder (Departure)
    9 – I’m a Marionette


    Voulez-Vous - 1979
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    1 - As Good As New
    2 – Voulez-Vous
    3 – I Have a Dream
    4 – Angeleyes
    5 – The King Has Lost His Crown
    6 – Does Your Mother Know
    7 – If It Wasn’t for the Nights
    8 – Chiquitita
    9 – Lovers (Live a Little Longer)
    10 – Kisses of Fire

    11 – Lovelight
    12 – Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)
    13 – Summer Night City
    14 – Medley: Pick a Bale of Cotton / On Top of Old Smokey / Midnight Special


    Super Trouper - 1980
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    1 - Super Trouper
    2 – The Winner Takes It All
    3 – On and On and On
    4 – Andante, Andante
    5 – Me and I
    6 – Happy New Year
    7 – Our Last Summer
    8 – The Piper
    9 – Lay All Your Love On Me
    10 – The Way Old Friends Do (Live)

    11 – Elaine
    12 – Put On Your White Sombrero


    The Visitors - 1981
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    1 - The Visitors
    2 – Head Over Heels
    3 – When All Is Said and Done
    4 – Soldiers
    5 – I Let the Music Speak
    6 – One of Us
    7 – Two for the Price of One
    8 – Slipping Through My Fingers
    9 – Like an Angel Passing Through My Room

    10 – Should I Laugh Or Cry
    11 – The Day Before You Came
    12 – Under Attack
    13 – You Owe Me One
    14 – Cassandra


    Extras

    1 - I Am the City
    2 – Dream World

    1 - Ring Ring
    2 – Another Town, Another Train
    3 – Disillusion
    4 – People Need Love
    5 – I Saw It in the Mirror
    6 – Nina, Pretty Ballerina
    7 – Love Isn’t Easy (But It Sure Is Hard Enough)
    8 – Me and Bobby and Bobby’s Brother
    9 – He Is Your Brother
    10 – She’s My Kind of Girl
    11 – I Am Just a Girl
    12 – Rock’n Roll Band

    13 – Merry-Go-Round
    14 – Santa Rosa

    1 - Waterloo
    2 – Sitting in the Palmtree
    3 – King Kong Song
    4 – Hasta Mañana
    5 – My Mama Said
    6 – Dance (While the Music Still Goes On)
    7 – Honey, Honey
    8 – Watch Out
    9 – What About Livingstone?
    10 – Gonna Sing You My Lovesong
    11 – Suzy-Hang-Around


    1 - Mamma Mia
    2 – Hey, Hey Helen
    3 – Tropical Loveland
    4 – SOS
    5 – Man in the Middle
    6 – Bang-A-Boomerang
    7 – I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
    8 – Rock Me
    9 – Intermezzo No. 1
    10 – I’ve Been Waiting for You
    11 – So Long

    1 - When I Kissed the Teacher
    2 – Dancing Queen
    3 – My Love, My Life
    4 – Dum Dum Diddle
    5 – Knowing Me, Knowing You
    6 – Money, Money, Money
    7 – That’s Me
    8 – Why Did It Have to Be Me?
    9 – Tiger
    10 – Arrival

    11 – Crazy World
    12 – Happy Hawaii
    13 - Fernando
    1 - Eagle
    2 – Take a Chance on Me
    3 – One Man, One Woman
    4 – The Name of the Game
    5 – Move On
    6 – Hole in Your Soul
    7 – Thank You for the Music
    8 – I Wonder (Departure)
    9 – I’m a Marionette

    1 - As Good As New
    2 – Voulez-Vous
    3 – I Have a Dream
    4 – Angeleyes
    5 – The King Has Lost His Crown
    6 – Does Your Mother Know
    7 – If It Wasn’t for the Nights
    8 – Chiquitita
    9 – Lovers (Live a Little Longer)
    10 – Kisses of Fire

    11 – Lovelight
    12 – Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)
    13 – Summer Night City
    14 – Medley: Pick a Bale of Cotton / On Top of Old Smokey / Midnight Special

    1 - Super Trouper
    2 – The Winner Takes It All
    3 – On and On and On
    4 – Andante, Andante
    5 – Me and I
    6 – Happy New Year
    7 – Our Last Summer
    8 – The Piper
    9 – Lay All Your Love On Me
    10 – The Way Old Friends Do (Live)

    11 – Elaine
    12 – Put On Your White Sombrero

    1 - The Visitors
    2 – Head Over Heels
    3 – When All Is Said and Done
    4 – Soldiers
    5 – I Let the Music Speak
    6 – One of Us
    7 – Two for the Price of One
    8 – Slipping Through My Fingers
    9 – Like an Angel Passing Through My Room

    10 – Should I Laugh Or Cry
    11 – The Day Before You Came

    12 – Under Attack
    13 – You Owe Me One
    14 – Cassandra

    1 - I Am the City
    2 – Dream World

    The deadline for getting your votes in is 19 March.
    That means you have a little less than 6 weeks to get to know this marvellous discography. So those of you who are not familiar with them, get the chance to get acquainted.

    And please...

    Don't fuck it up.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2017
  2. #100: I Saw It In The Mirror
    #99: She's My Kind of Girl
    #98: Merry-Go-Round
    #96 (tie): Man in the Middle
    #96 (tie): Santa Rosa
    #95: Me and Bobby and Bobby's Brother
    #94: King Kong Song
    #93: Sitting in the Palmtree
    #92: Suzy-Hang-Around
    #90 (tie): What About Livingstone?
    #90 (tie): I Am Just a Girl
    #89: Rock'n Roll Band
    #88: Watch Out
    #86 (tie): Intermezzo No. 1
    #86 (tie): He Is Your Brother
    #85: Love Isn't Easy (But It Sure Is Hard Enough)
    #84: Medley: Pick a Bale of Cotton / On Top of Old Smokey / Midnight Special
    #83: Nina, Pretty Ballerina
    #82: Put On Your White Sombrero
    #81: Crazy World
    #80: People Need Love
    #79: Another Town, Another Train
    #78: Tropical Loveland
    #77: Gonna Sing You My Love Song
    #76: Rock Me
    #75: Disillusion
    #74: Happy Hawaii
    #73: Arrival
    #72: Hasta Mañana
    #71: I Have a Dream
    #70: My Mama Said
    #69: Dance (While the Music Still Goes On)
    #68: Why Did It Have to Be Me?
    #67: Hey, Hey Helen
    #66: Andante, Andante
    #65: Lovers (Live a Little Longer)
    #63 (tie): Dum Dum Diddle
    #63 (tie): I Wonder (Departure)
    #62: My Love, My Life
    #60 (tie): Bang-A-Boomerang
    #60 (tie): Move On
    #59: Elaine
    #58: Hole in Your Soul
    #57: So Long
    #56: One Man, One Woman
    #55: Dream World
    #54: Cassandra
    #53: Two for the Price of One
    #52: I'm a Marionette
    #51: The Way Old Friends Do
    #50: You Owe Me One
    #49: Tiger
    #48: I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
    #46 (tie): The King Has Lost His Crown
    #46 (tie): Lovelight
    #45: I've Been Waiting for You
    #44: The Piper
    #43: When I Kissed the Teacher
    #42: Like An Angel Passing Through My Room
    #41: Thank You for the Music
    #40: Happy New Year
    #39: Honey, Honey
    #37 (tie): That's Me
    #37 (tie): Ring Ring
    #36: I Am the City
    #35: I Let the Music Speak
    #33 (tie): Me and I
    #33 (tie): Does Your Mother Know
    #32: On and On and On
    #31: Should I Laugh Or Cry
    #30: Kisses of Fire
    #29: Soldiers
    #28: Slipping Through My Fingers
    #27: Our Last Summer
    #26: Eagle
    #25: Under Attack
    #24: Head Over Heels
    #23: As Good As New
    #20 (tie): If It Wasn't for the Nights
    #20 (tie): The Name of the Game
    #20 (tie): Angeleyes
    #19: Fernando
    #18: Chiquitita
    #17: Money, Money, Money

    Waterloo
    Waterloo

    ABBA
    Mamma Mia
    SOS

    Arrival
    Dancing Queen
    Knowing Me, Knowing You

    ABBA: The Album
    Take a Chance on Me

    Voulez-Vous
    Voulez-Vous
    Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)
    Summer Night City

    Super Trouper
    Super Trouper
    The Winner Takes It All
    Lay All Your Love On Me

    The Visitors
    The Visitors
    When All Is Said and Done
    One of Us
    The Day Before You Came
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2017
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  3. 8 - Ring Ring - 1973
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    Average: 4.8820
    #37 (tie): Ring Ring
    #75: Disillusion
    #79: Another Town, Another Train
    #80: People Need Love
    #83: Nina, Pretty Ballerina
    #85: Love Isn't Easy (But It Sure Is Hard Enough)
    #86 (tie): He Is Your Brother
    #89: Rock'n Roll Band
    #90 (tie): I Am Just a Girl
    #95: Me and Bobby and Bobby's Brother
    #96 (tie): Santa Rosa
    #98: Merry-Go-Round
    #99: She's My Kind of Girl
    #100: I Saw It In The Mirror

    Highest scorers:
    @constantino - 7.3929
    @Sprockrooster - 7.1786
    @tylerc904 - 6.6071

    Lowest scorers:
    @VivaForever - 2.2857
    @CasperFan
    - 2.4286
    @idratherjack - 2.5714

    My average: 6.1071
    Our first album to fall is the much maligned Ring Ring. The fact that most of these songs fell before we even reached the top 80 should have given you a fair warning that this would be the album with the lowest average here.

    I have repeated time and time again when we were cutting these songs that this is an album recorded by a group of four people who were or had had success, be it as part of a group or solo. Björn had been part of a group called The Hootenanny Singers, Benny was part of the band Hep Stars and Agnetha and Frida had been recording music from a young age with varying degrees of success.

    Benny and Björn decided to form a duo and had already released a couple of singles (among them She's My Kind Of Girl, En Karusell, which was the Swedish version of Merry-Go-Round and Rock'n Roll Band, yet that version was a bit different to the one we're used to), but it wasn't until they decided to record People Need Love that their manager Stig Anderson suggested the boys could enlist the vocal help from both of their fiancées.

    ABBA as we know them were not even considered a thing at the time.

    Yet, the rest is history...

    The album was only officially released in 1973 in Scandinavia and several parts of Europe such as Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Belgium, where it was their first chart-topper too.
    Australia and New Zealand got it in 1975, but it wasn't until 1992 that it was released in the United Kingdom and it took up until 1995 to be leashed upon the American public...

    You do have to keep in mind that the musical climate was very different at the time. Schlager music was the thing back then and was largely considered pop music. Hence the light and sometimes childish nature of some of these songs, which is a big part of why some of you couldn't give out a lot of high scores. Their later songs were very complex and in stark contrast with some of the songs on display here.
    Pair that with the fact that the general focus was not on the girls' voices, as Benny and Björn were very much trying to be the stars of this project, with the girls playing second fiddle and most of you aren't here even for male pop stars with good voices, let alone those with awful voices...

    Is it their worst album? Yes.
    Is it a bad album per sé? Certain opinions beg to differ.

    I'd strongly suggest you all listen to it with new ears and maybe go back into our countdown to follow along. Who knows... Maybe you'll find a hidden gem somewhere or a song you would never have given the light of day after hearing it for the first time when scoring these songs.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
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  4. Oh. Wow.
     
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  5. I know right.
     
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  6. I had no idea this was on the cards!
     
  7. So here for this.
     
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  8. If only I knew all the songs...

    Predicting Winner takes it all (tellingly) takes it all...
     
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  9. Should i finally branch out from GOLD and More Gold for this? I've been meaning to delve into their catalogue for years.
     
  10. Oh wow that's a lot of songs. I'm tragically only familiar with the (More) GOLD material, but I want to use this as an opportunity to dig deeper!
     
  11. Sis, you've got SIX weeks... Dive in!

    Yes!

    Do it!
     
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  12. I've been waiting for you this.
     
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  13. Pretty sure I already know my 11....
     
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  14. Oh my days, I must do this! I don't know their discography much outside of the singles so this would be perfect for me to discover some gems. Make sure I do it. Can you do a PM friendly list of all the tracks included please @Remorque?
     
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  15. I've been anticipating this rate so badly you have no idea. I've been a fan of ABBA since I was 3 or 4 years old, so I'm gonna have a blast (from the past) listening through their entire discography again.
     
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  16. Done!
     
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  17. Uno

    Uno

    YESYESYES!

    Y'all better do Eagle right.
     
  18. Dum Dum Diddle, yeah...I think it will be the same for most of us.
     
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  19. Can I get a "SIS." up in here?
     
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  20. OH MY GOD.

    @idratherjack !!!!!!!!!

    I hope y'all do Summer Night City right and give your 11. Or The Day Before You Came. Or Under Attack.

    @Remorque here for a solo ABBA output rate after this. COME THROUGH SHINE.
     
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