Discussion in 'The X Factor' started by AmbivalentToBritney, Dec 12, 2016.
Hopes or predictions?
Hopes, but I think that's pretty much how it will go as well. I doubt Tulisa will beat out Cheryl but a gay can dream.
Kelly should be higher purely because we'd have no Little Mix without her.
Rounding out the top 5, a judge everyone warmed to but many of you felt was too inconsistent to go further...
#5. Tulisa (7.776)
I was pleasantly surprised by Tulisa, because I hate her music. Overall she was a bit average apart from her amazing work with Little Mix, by my god she looked SNATCHED week after week. It was the only time since Dannii's early days that a judge's clothing choices were a valid reason to tune in.
Highest score: 11 (@Serg., @LukePreston)
Lowest score: 3 (@roborovsky)
@sfmartin - Her work with Little Mix was superb. She put a lot of effort into her acts and it showed. Passionate and creative.
@diamondliam - If she had only appeared in her first series I’d give her a 10, but her indifference to the show in her second year was shocking.
@shadow2009 - Her love for Little Mix and passion was very nice to watch. You can tell she REALLY put the work in behind the scenes to help them and probably had a big hand in song choices/production etc. I really do think she was one of the only judges who did that.
@Filler - I pity her, which I think is one of the most positive emotions I feel about any X Factor judge.
@pmas - She was good at it, shame it all got so messed up.
@K94 - Her mentoring of Little Mix is probably the best mentoring there's ever been on the show. The second season, however, was dire and she didn't wanna be there.
@kermit_the_frog - Amazing first series, shocking second one.
@GhettoPrincess - Fag ash breath.
Thoughts on your 11 dropping out, @Serg. and @LukePreston?
Kelly had so much potential and was so great at the start, but from calling in sick onwards she seemed to give up - I can't help but feel the show's general treatment of Misha B really put her off.
I really hope Dannii doesn't win, I'm team Cheryl.
#4. Cheryl (8.051)
Despite everything (the flop relationships, the increasingly ridiculous music, the racist assault), I still love Cheryl. She got my 11 because her understanding of her individual acts and how to market them is unparalleled, and when she's been allowed to really cut loose, she's consistently taken ordinary singers to the next level. When it all comes together, Cheryl can produce interesting, chart-ready popstars like no other judge in X Factor history. Also, she was in GIRLS FUCKING ALOUD and as such, is the only judge to be a relevant popstar *whilst on the panel* (sorry Nicole).
Highest score: 11 (@AmbivalentToBritney, @sfmartin, @shadow2009, @Queen Conchita)
Lowest score: 3 (@roborovsky)
@diamondliam - It’s hard to argue against Cheryl’s importance to the show, especially from series 5-8. She was great in her first year but every year after it was a case of diminishing returns.
@Filler - I'm not sure she's even in the top five 'Popstars: The Rivals' contestants I'd have asked to be a judge. She's not even the most deserving of a mononym. I mean "Cheryl Tweedy" would have been a great popstar name, while I'd be happy for us all to refer to, say, Emma Beard as just "Beard".
@SuperNerd - Much better as a judge post comeback, occasionally delivers great critique but in the early days was too often content to be set dressing.
@K94 - Bit up and down when it came to the seasons she did. Probably the best out of all when it came to choosing songs though.
@kermit_the_frog - 10 for the first two Dannii years and inferred friendship, 5 for the last and an 8 for her most recent series where she gave a shit again.
@Shockbox - Cheryl is a tough one to rate because she was AMAZING in her original run but it was shit when she returned. I hope she never returns to the show.
@GhettoPrincess - Loved her first series as a judge but she’s been pretty crap since.
Fellow high-scorers / increasingly jaded stans:
@shadow2009 - She got a lot of criticism sometimes but she was always very likeable for me and seemed to actually care about some of her acts (Reggie and Bollie, Diana, Joe).
@sfmartin - I can't begin to argue that my score has nothing to do with her being in the best band of all time because I adored her from the get go. Her feelings felt sincere, and when she cried and did the Cheryl hug it always looked so comforting. When she joined the panel that was only when the show really took off. Her years were the glory years...well two of them. She was under so much scrutiny on the show questionable fashion choices but it got headlines. And her performances of Fight for this love was a real moment...and to a less extent the victory lap of Promise This. Her critique wasn't the most coherent but her passion shone through in the early years. All the drama with US X factor only made her more endearing. When she came back however the show had lost its shine and so had she, she didn't seem as invested. I did like her chemistry with Simon though. However all in all she's my 11 because she's Cheryl, she's an underdog, and no matter how much mud is thrown at her, she triumphs in the end...much like the acts of hers that I stan for. Such a strong list of contestants she mentored (Diana, Alexandra, Cher, 4th Impact - among the very very best the show has ever given us).
How is Cowell in the top 3 you absolute wastes of space
My comment on Tulisa is showing under Cheryl, not that it really matters.
I gave Cheryl an 11 too, probably won't make a difference but thought i'd tell you anyway haha!
At least he's not as bland as some of the others.
Leona still has both. Bleeding Love has sold close to 5 million in the US alone, its estimated sales are atleast 10 million. Spirit has sold around 8 million worldwide to, 3.2 in the UK and 1.8 in the US.
Sorry everyone - I'm currently moving house and things are a bit hectic, so will resume on Sunday. Apologies for the delay.
Tulisa will always be the best X factor judge for me. She was always completely honest, but in a constructive way and I don't think any judge has ever been as invested and passionate in their acts as she did.
Her only downfall was when Gary commented on her "fag ash breath" and she made some cringeworthy comeback about him drinking wine in his dressing room. Girl, you grew up in camden, just smack him in the face.
I'm sure there was someone in here that found Sam Callahan attractive.
I haven't LOL'ed so hard all month. Thank you.
I'm back! Hope you had a great weeekend.
Taking the bronze medal...
#3. Nicole Saltslinger (8.069)
Simon beat her. SIMON. BEAT. HER. You all let this happen.
Nicole generally scored well, but her hyperactive behaviour last season let her down in the eyes of several voters.
Highest score: 11 (@K94, @Robert, @GhettoPrincess)
Lowest score: 2 (@Serg.)
@Filler - Okay I can't remember the wording of any of this, but here is, very paraphrased, a defining Nicole Scherzinger moment for me. From a few years ago I think.
Nicole: "So, Contestant, how devastating would it be for you to not get through bootcamp today?"
Contestant, beaming politely: "Well Nicole it'd be a shame but I'd get by! It's okay I won't be mad at you."
Nicole: "WHAT? This is unacceptable [storms backstage to give the other acts a pep talk] I WANT TO HEAR MORE ENTHUSIASM. I WANT TO HEAR THAT IT WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD AND THAT YOU'LL JUST FUCKING DROP DEAD IN A SODDEN TEAR-STAINED HEAP IF WE DON'T PUT YOU THROUGH. THE X FACTOR IS THE CENTRE OF ALL EXISTENCE AND YOU SHOULD TREAT IT AS SUCH. THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING ELSE IN YOUR MISERABLE LITTLE LIVES. PLEASE FOSTER GENUINELY UNHEALTHY ATTITUDES TOWARDS THIS ITV POP MUSIC SHOW. A BASIC SENSE OF PROPORTION IS VERBOTEN. Thank you bye."
Look, it was probably all written and set up and not her fault really, but if we disregarded things on that basis we'd have nothing left to rate. She's my favourite X Factor judge – that's why she has my highest score – but under the camp façade, we've seen how content she is to play along with some of the show's more ethically fucked up elements. That's why my highest score is only a 5. Fucking hell, why do I watch this show?
@SuperNerd - A brilliant judge capable of delivering fantastic critique, just a little...much sometimes, particularly in this latest season.
@diamondliam - A fantastic judge and personality, she single handedly kept the show afloat during the dark years. Also without her we wouldn’t have One Direction as in was her idea to put them together (remember that key moment of world history?) and her VTs have always been the best of the established judges.
@shadow2009 - 2012 she was awesome. She's gone downhill and became more annoying since then.
@kermit_the_frog - Not so much this series, but the last judge to actually give a shit about her contestants.
@Shockbox - I've enjoyed her every season but she was a bit annoying at times this year.
@sfmartin - At times she's had questionable opinions but she's brought something special to each series she's been on. Hyperactive queen.
@K94 - The ultimate - when will your faves snatch the attention from her contestants so effortlessly, serve us catchphrases, and open the show with the gayest performance recorded on national television, all whilst working at Asda!
@GhettoPrincess - Queen of stealing mics, queen of making it all about herself, queen of catchphrases. She’s a judge that can be both entertaining and on the mark with her comments.
Nicole ain't impressed.
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