Discussion in 'Eurovision' started by NecessaryVoodoo, Nov 16, 2017.
Agreed i would rather Rachel Lester represent us than that rubbish.
One of the people in the leaked list has denied any involvement - so there could be hope!
UPDATE: The sun is now reporting that this is the first confirmed entrant:
As she wasn't on that leak perhaps we could be in for something better...
Why do I already fear for our chances this year? I think we need a big name (or a decent name) to get us anywhere.
We get no respect each year, as we don't earn it and treat Eurovision like a joke. Why can't we follow the Swedish example and make an effort.. and then promote the hell out of it. When we did it with Jade and Andrew LW it worked, if we'd kept on that track (not using Pete Waterman) it could have produced results
It's a self-fulfilling cycle. Poor reputation attracts poor talent attracts poor reputation.
I don't think an extensive national final like MelFest is the way to go. I think, instead, the BBC should shell out some money and outright buy one of the billion demos that is floating about major label A&R. There are so many songs by good songwriters stuck in rotation at major labels and not being used by any of their artists. Why not spend £50k buying all the rights to the song, then enlist any half-talented Voice/X Factor alumni to perform it?
I'm not saying it needs to be anywhere near as big as what Sweden do, the Jade and Andrew show certainly wasn't - we just need to take it seriously, good song, excellent vocalist and extensive promo - we need to earn our stripes, can't just expect to do well., Lucy did well last year, and we need to build on that - I just have feeling the BBC will follow it up badly, like they did with Pete Waterman and Josh after Jade
Ultimately I think we need to have something original and that stands out, in a good way. If you look back at previous winners of the past couple of years, they've sounded like nothing else in the contest that year. The song is the key - a dull/uninspired tune sung excellently doesn't necessarily always equal success at Eurovision.
I agree that Promo couldn't hurt, but realistically how much Promo did Portugal do last year?
Salvador's health story and the lack of promo as a result played a big part in this winning arc.
A big problem is that the contest is going through an 'authenticity' phase, where songs in native languages and songs with cultural references are succeeding again (hence every non-english song in the contest advancing to the final) and the likes of Origo, Amar Pelos Dois and Occidentali's Karma placing in the top 10. Britain doesn't have the ability to go for something authentic without submitting some guitar wielding straight white man doing his best Ed Sheeran impression.
On the other hand, Moldova and Norway submitted two of the most contemporary songs in the contest and placed highly because of that - so I reckon @Rhombus' idea of a genuinely radio-friendly song with crossover appeal is the way to go. Most of the pop attempts at the national final last year were incredibly tinny and basic.
We haven't sent an objectively good song this century yet, a few so-so efforts, but nothing that screams classic. With our general attitude to the EU, I don't see that changing for some time.
In other news, my friend has given me a ticket to the selection show at the Brighton Dome, sure to be shorting out my Grindr in its gayness.
Songs revealed tomorrow!
Måns' accent has changed a lot since his move to the UK.
He's still hot.
Ballady? Ed Sheeran? Flutey?
It's ok we also got words like Clubby and seeing 1000 dancers on stage - all is not lost!
Ever the optimist...
BYE at Måns sounding like Madame LaQueer trying to do a English accent.
“Our host” Måns Zelmerlöw? Cannot abide this Dame Mel G erasure!
But also, it will probably be trash but I’m excited for a song in consideration to have a “DROP” — having something in the mix that won’t cause suicide by boredom could be a good thing.
I'm not religious, but I'll pray for this year's selection for the UK. It's about time we got something good.
I mean, anything is better than the 6 factor rejects we had last year! I really think we should pick a decent (semi) well known pop star next year and try simply voting for the song or something. Clearly having an unknown random person isn't working for us. Be nice to maybe have a group thrown in the mix aswell.
I actually thought this was a perfect choice for us last year. Her vocals were On. Point.
Makes me sad y’all don’t have any popstars who are major Eurovision fans and would partake solely for the giggles. It’s like how Boy George is always tweeting about Celebrity Big Brother. Just go do it already!
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