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✦ 00s Indie Pop ✦ & ✖ 00s Indie Rock ✖ Rates | ✖ Indie Rock Rate Finale! ✖

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    Welcome to the ✦ 00s Indie Pop ✦ & ✖ 00s Indie Rock ✖ rates! And before anything else - yes, that's rates, plural, meaning these are two separate rates happening in the same thread, each with its own leaderboard, winner, 11, etc. This was decided as while they have some things in common, the two song lists are quite different, and I imagine some people might be interesting in taking part in one rate but not necessarily the other. Though of course I encourage everyone to give both a shot, each selection is quite short at just 35 songs, and both are full of classics.

    As you can tell, these rates are focused on indie music from the 00s, but since that's a very broad term, let me specify - in the ✦ 00s Indie Pop Rate ✦ you'll find an assortment of folk-y, twee, retro and atmospheric songs (there are a lot acts that fit the "indie pop" umbrella, but I avoided including anything too noisy/experimental/intense, as it didn't really fit the vibe), a mix of classics and hidden gems, and a lot of songs that fall somewhere in between, it's overall a very pleasant but still engaging listening experience. On the other hand, the ✖ 00s Indie Rock Rate ✖ is full of 00s rock classics that often match any pop girl releases in terms of boppability. Both rates are mostly comprised of acts which I know would have a hard time ever showing up in another rate, so I thought it'd be fun to give them a bit of time in the spotlight in this corner of the forum, and have a look at a classic era in indie music, through a PopJustice lens.

    Rules: Rate the songs (either from one of the rates or both) on a scale of 0-10, with your favourite getting an 11 (that's one 11 for each rate if you participate in both). In terms of decimals, please stick to 0.25, 0.5 and 0.75.

    Commentary is very welcome - please share your favourites memories, live moments, or just random thoughts on these songs and acts. I intend for this to be a fairly breezy rate, so the idea is keeping the write-ups pretty brief, so commentary would really help fill them out.

    Voting deadline: September 26 23:59 BST October 3 23:59 BST

    Indie Pop watch2gether: August 29 18:00 BST
    Indie Rock watch2gether: September 5 18:00 BST
    Final watch2gether: September 19 16:00 BST
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2021
  2. ✦ 00s Indie Pop Rate ✦

    A Camp - Stronger Than Jesus
    Air - Cherry Blossom Girl
    Andrew Bird - Oh No
    Angus & Julia Stone - Big Jet Plane
    Au Revoir Simone - Shadows
    Bat For Lashes - Daniel
    the bird and the bee - Again & Again
    Broken Social Scene - Anthems For A Seventeen Year Old Girl
    Camera Obscura - French Navy
    Chairlift - Bruises
    El Perro del Mar - Party
    Emilíana Torrini - Sunny Road
    Feist - My Moon My Man
    Fleet Foxes - Mykonos
    Frou Frou - Let Go
    Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks
    Husky Rescue - New Light of Tomorrow
    Kings of Convenience - I'd Rather Dance With You
    Laura Marling - Ghosts
    Laura Veirs - Don't Lose Yourself
    Lykke Li - I'm Good, I'm Gone
    Neko Case - This Tornado Loves You
    Passion Pit - Moth's Wings
    Patrick Wolf - The Magic Position
    Peter Bjorn and John - Young Folks
    The Pierces - Secret
    The Pipettes - Pull Shapes
    The Postal Service - Such Great Heights
    Regina Spektor - Fidelity
    Rilo Kiley - Silver Lining
    She & Him - Sentimental Heart
    St. Vincent - Jesus Saves, I Spend
    Tegan and Sara - Back in Your Head
    Wilco - You and I
    The xx - Islands






    ✖ 00s Indie Rock Rate ✖

    Arcade Fire - Rebellion (Lies)
    Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor
    Black Kids - I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How To Dance With You
    Bloc Party - Banquet
    The Bravery - An Honest Mistake
    CSS - Let's Make Love and Listen to Death From Above
    Editors - Papillon
    Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
    Gossip - Standing In the Way of Control
    Hard-Fi - Hard to Beat
    Interpol - Evil
    Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot
    Kasabian - Fire
    The Killers - When You Were Young
    The Kills - Sour Cherry
    Klaxons - Golden Skans
    The Libertines - Can't Stand Me Now
    Mando Diao - Dance With Somebody
    Metric - Help I’m Alive
    MGMT - Time to Pretend
    Modest Mouse - Float On
    Muse - Supermassive Black Hole
    New Order - Crystal
    Noisettes - Don't Give Up
    OK Go - Here It Goes Again
    Phoenix - 1901
    Placebo - The Bitter End
    The Sounds - Painted By Numbers
    Stereophonics - Dakota
    The Strokes - Reptilia
    The Walkmen - The Rat
    White Lies - To Lose My Life
    The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army
    The Wombats - Let's Dance to Joy Division
    Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll






    PM List

    Please write your scores inside the () and the commentary inside the “”!

    00s Indie Pop

    A Camp - Stronger Than Jesus ✦ () “”
    Air - Cherry Blossom Girl ✦ () “”
    Andrew Bird - Oh No ✦ () “”
    Angus & Julia Stone - Big Jet Plane ✦ () “”
    Au Revoir Simone - Shadows ✦ () “”
    Bat For Lashes - Daniel ✦ () “”
    the bird and the bee - Again & Again ✦ () “”
    Broken Social Scene - Anthems For A Seventeen Year Old Girl ✦ () “”
    Camera Obscura - French Navy ✦ () “”
    Chairlift - Bruises ✦ () “”
    El Perro del Mar - Party ✦ () “”
    Emilíana Torrini - Sunny Road ✦ () “”
    Feist - My Moon My Man ✦ () “”
    Fleet Foxes - Mykonos ✦ () “”
    Frou Frou - Let Go ✦ () “”
    Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks ✦ () “”
    Husky Rescue - New Light of Tomorrow ✦ () “”
    Kings of Convenience - I'd Rather Dance With You ✦ () “”
    Laura Marling - Ghosts ✦ () “”
    Laura Veirs - Don't Lose Yourself ✦ () “”

    Lykke Li - I'm Good, I'm Gone ✦ () “”
    Neko Case - This Tornado Loves You ✦ () “”
    Passion Pit - Moth's Wings ✦ () “”
    Patrick Wolf - The Magic Position ✦ () “”
    Peter Bjorn and John - Young Folks ✦ () “”
    The Pierces - Secret ✦ () “”
    The Pipettes - Pull Shapes ✦ () “”
    The Postal Service - Such Great Heights ✦ () “”
    Regina Spektor - Fidelity ✦ () “”
    Rilo Kiley - Silver Lining ✦ () “”
    She & Him - Sentimental Heart ✦ () “”
    St. Vincent - Jesus Saves, I Spend ✦ () “”
    Tegan and Sara - Back in Your Head ✦ () “”
    Wilco - You and I ✦ () “”
    The xx - Islands ✦ () “”


    00s Indie Rock

    Arcade Fire - Rebellion (Lies) ✖ () “”
    Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor ✖ () “”
    Black Kids - I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How To Dance With You ✖ () “”
    Bloc Party - Banquet ✖ () “”
    The Bravery - An Honest Mistake ✖ () “”
    CSS - Let's Make Love and Listen to Death From Above ✖ () “”
    Editors - Papillon ✖ () “”
    Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out ✖ () “”
    Gossip - Standing In the Way of Control ✖ () “”
    Hard-Fi - Hard to Beat ✖ () “”
    Interpol - Evil ✖ () “”
    Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot ✖ () “”
    Kasabian - Fire ✖ () “”
    The Killers - When You Were Young ✖ () “”
    The Kills - Sour Cherry ✖ () “”
    Klaxons - Golden Skans ✖ () “”
    The Libertines - Can't Stand Me Now ✖ () “”
    Mando Diao - Dance With Somebody ✖ () “”
    Metric - Help I’m Alive ✖ () “”
    MGMT - Time to Pretend ✖ () “”
    Modest Mouse - Float On ✖ () “”
    Muse - Supermassive Black Hole ✖ () “”
    New Order - Crystal ✖ () “”
    Noisettes - Don't Give Up ✖ () “”
    OK Go - Here It Goes Again ✖ () “”
    Phoenix - 1901 ✖ () “”
    Placebo - The Bitter End ✖ () “”
    The Sounds - Painted By Numbers ✖ () “”
    Stereophonics - Dakota ✖ () “”
    The Strokes - Reptilia ✖ () “”
    The Walkmen - The Rat ✖ () “”
    White Lies - To Lose My Life ✖ () “”
    The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army ✖ () “”
    The Wombats - Let's Dance to Joy Division ✖ () “”
    Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll ✖ () “”
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2021
  3. ✖ Results ✖

    ✦#35✦: Sentimental Heart
    ✦#34✦: Party
    ✦#33✦: Jesus Saves, I Spend

    ✦#32✦: Sunny Road
    ✖#35✖: Sour Cherry
    ✦#31✦: Anthems For A Seventeen Year-Old Girl

    ✦#29(1)✦: You and I
    ✦#29(2)✦: Again & Again
    #28: I'd Rather Dance With You
    ✖#34✖: Don't Give Up


    ✖#33✖: Let's Dance to Joy Division
    ✦#27✦: Shadows
    ✖#32✖: Can't Stand Me Now
    ✦#26✦:The Magic Position
    ✦#25✦: Oh No
    ✦#24✦: Secret
    ✦#23✦: Bruises
    ✦#21(1): Don't Lose Yourself
    ✦#21(2): New Light of Tomorrow
    ✖#31✖: Fire


    ✦#20✦: Big Jet Plane
    ✦#19✦: Stronger Than Jesus
    ✖#30✖: Here It Goes Again
    ✖#29✖: Evil
    ✖#28✖: The Rat
    ✦#18✦: Ghosts
    ✦#17✦: Two Weeks
    ✦#16✦: Fidelity
    ✦#15✦: This Tornado Loves You
    ✦#14✦: Moth's Wings


    ✖#26(1)✖: The Bitter End
    ✖#26(2)✖: Let's Make Love and Listen to Death from Above
    ✖#25✖: The Strokes - Reptilia
    ✖#24✖: Float On
    ✖#23✖: Papillon
    ✖#22✖: To Lose My Life
    ✦#12(1)✦: Young Folks
    ✦#12(2)✦: Cherry Blossom Girl
    ✖#21✖: Painted by Numbers
    ✦#11✦: Islands


    ✖#20✖: Rebellion (Lies)
    ✦#9(1)✦: Such Great Heights
    ✦#9(2): Pull Shapes
    ✖#19✖: I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How to Dance with You
    ✖#18✖: Crystal
    ✖#17✖: I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor
    ✖#16✖: Dance with Somebody
    ✦#8✦: Silver Lining
    ✖#15✖: An Honest Mistake
    ✖#14✖: Help I'm Alive


    ✦#7✦: Let Go
    ✖#13✖: 1901
    ✖#12✖: Hard to Beat
    ✖#11✖: I Predict a Riot
    ✦#6✦: My Moon My Man
    #10: Golden Skans
    ✦#5✦: Back in Your Head
    ✖#9✖: Supermassive Black Hole
    ✦#4✦: I'm Good, I'm Gone


    ✦#3✦: French Navy
    #8: Banquet
    ✦#2✦: Mykonos
    ✖#7✖: Dakota
    #6: When You Were Young
    ✖#5✖: Seven Nation Army
    ✖#4✖: Standing in the Way of Control
    #1: Daniel
    ✖#3✖: Take Me Out
    ✖#2✖: Time to Pretend
    ✖#1✖: Heads Will Roll

    Commentary Guessing Game

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  5. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    @soratami I know you had people do “write ups” for albums in your last two rates. If we really like a featured artist, could we volunteer to spotlight them more? Personally, I was thinking I would love to showcase a few other songs that could’ve made the rate for at least one artist.
     
  6. Weirdly I know more from the Indie Rock than the Indie Pop rate. I guess cos these songs date back to my heterosexuality.
     
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  7. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    Well I believe @soratami was going for an anthemic vibe for the indie rock rate. . It’s not surprising that most of the indie rock artists songs would have crossover success into the “mainstream.”
     
  8. Yes, of course! Feel free to do that for as many artists as you want, and the same goes for anyone else who'd like to do something along those lines.

    Also, since I didn't want the selections to go past 35 songs, some difficult cuts had to made, and I'll be posting about those artists through the voting period.
     
  9. Yeah, a lot of the songs in the indie rock rate were quite big at the time, I imagine most people (who aren't @Music Is Death's age) will probably be familiar with at least a good part of the song list. The indie pop side is a bit more, let's say, Pitchfork-y (but in a good way, I swear), but there are a few big songs there as well.
     
  10. Not me arguing with the Animal Collective pick just for the band not to make the final cut nn. I only recognize like 20 songs at most in the list but I'm willing to try doing this!
     
  11. nn I'm sorry, but honestly their songs are a bit too dense/intense, they just didn't really fit the fairly mellow vibe of the indie pop song list. They'll be featured in one of the "songs we could have rated" posts though at least.
     
  12. After everything I forgot to mention Two Door Cinema Club.


    I can't talk.
     
  13. That would have actually been a great fit, but I glad it wasn't brought up/I didn't think of it, because getting the song lists down to 35 was already a struggle as it was dd
     
  14. That 2009 single is from their 2010 album so now you have to do a 2010s edition.



    We will be ready.
     
  15. I thought about suggesting Two Door Cinema Club but their best song was released in 2010 so I was like no point.
     
  16. R27

    R27

    Hmmm, I don't know the majority of the songs here (although I recognize a lot of the artists) and I'm about to go back to work in a few days for what is shaping up to be another stressful and draining academic year... but do I really want to miss my chance to give "Anthems for a Seventeen Year Old Girl" an 11?

    Decisions, decisions.
     
  17. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    Support Canadian talent please.
     
  18. Ugh... Why in the hell have Girls Aloud never covered any Hard-Fi song though?

    Sorry to be kind of off-topic, but this rate has me revisiting Hard-Fi's discography big time.
     

  19. The 'Babes have though!
     
  20. 2014

    2014 Staff Member

    This is perfect for me! There are some songs here that are just desperate for my 10s, and I’m sure there will be some rediscoveries here too - perched!
     
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