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67th GRAMMY Awards
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CBS usually has a lock on them being uploaded to Youtube for a certain period of time after the ceremony.
Lemonade losing to 25 was honestly more egregious.
I was mad both times but at least Adele was on our side when it happened and even admitted it on the stage.
With Beck there was at least some reason/logic to why Beyoncé lost.
With both 25 and Style it was clearly a case of following the numbers and not cultural or creative impact.
With both 25 and Style it was clearly a case of following the numbers and not cultural or creative impact.
Look, as much as I adore Beyoncé and appreciate that the Grammys finally gave her an Album of the Year after years of snubs, this win feels more like a long-overdue “legacy correction”.
I get that there’s a lot of pressure on the Grammys to “get it right” but that’s exactly what bothers me. When it hands out an Album of the Year award as a kind of corrective gesture, it undermines the award’s credibility. It comes off as if they’re more concerned with balancing the narrative and appeasing public outcry than with honestly assessing the art on its own terms.
I get that there’s a lot of pressure on the Grammys to “get it right” but that’s exactly what bothers me. When it hands out an Album of the Year award as a kind of corrective gesture, it undermines the award’s credibility. It comes off as if they’re more concerned with balancing the narrative and appeasing public outcry than with honestly assessing the art on its own terms.
Corrective my ass ...
Buck it, buck it, buck it.
No you’re wrong and what you think isn’t correct.
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22 critics that gave a score?
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Who is the "they" and "it" you're talking about? Do you think there's a board room of people who decided to give her their biggest award as a PR move? I highly doubt the majority of the 13,000 voting body held their nose and voted for Cowboy Carter. As others have said, it's more than deserving based on its artistic merits, even if it's not her strongest body of work.
Thats normal for Metacritic. It's not like Rotten Tomatoes where they take 200+ reviews.
Billie's album only has 22 reviews and Sabrina's only has 17 reviews.
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Personally I think Bey's own reaction would put any of the "PR move" theories to rest but what do I know
If it's not her strongest body of work, why did she win now? Sorry, but I think you're naive, in the voting blocs these people know each other... "They" talk shop at industry events.
In any case, I love Beyonce. I understand it's a controversial take but I stand by it.
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Because people voted for her this year. That's why she won. And honestly who cares who talked with who? Voting blocks of thousands of people? She won the majority of votes. That's how people win Grammys. Sorry, but I think you're being contrarian for the sake of it.
What always bothers me about Grammy narratives is that we never now by how much an artist can win or lose any award. Maybe Renaissance lost against Harry Styles by only five votes for all we know. The same dynamics are always at play and it's mostly about what the competition is that given year.
Obviously the fact that Beyoncé released a country album, in a context in which the academy membership gets younger and more diverse, helped Cowboy Carter get over the line.
Obviously the fact that Beyoncé released a country album, in a context in which the academy membership gets younger and more diverse, helped Cowboy Carter get over the line.
She won this time because she created a body of work that appeals to the Grammy voter more. Maybe the other times the album was too personal, too girlie, too 'gay'. This one is more of what a straight white man likes maybe? More rock, more raw, Beatles cover, Dolly cover, real instruments, live band feel, grassroots, gospel, americana, big bands, old legends, new darlings... these are all things a Grammy voter would absolutely be into.
Interesting how you are fine with considering this undermining the award's credibility but not the many times she's been snubbed for AOTY. Many blind items often said they voted out of the narrative that she was already acclaimed enough and she didn't need AOTY over the years. That doesn't undermine the award's credibility with you? Them "fixing the narrative" does when voters themselves had said they were "fixing a narrative" re: Beyonce being too accoladed previously?
It's a gold statue from the industry and based on how opinions here can change regarding albums being hits, singles being hits, an artist's narrative, who they worked with on the album, none of us can truly honestly assess art on its own terms. I'd ask you to please tell me in terms of craftsmanship, intention, composition, lyricism, vocal performance, production, on those metrics, you'd have had her lose this year in a vacuum completely not engaging with her previous snubs? Ignoring of course your own genre biases and what you personally like.
I respect your opinion
Screaming because every argument I hear to bring her down is so flawed.