67th GRAMMY Awards

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Yeah I was going to say the Grammys have historically preferred more traditional music with "real instruments" over something poppier and electronic (or rap), which can be applied to Harry's House vs Renaissance, 25 vs. Lemonade, etc. It's just that Beyoncé was on the other side of the fence now
 
Interesting how you are fine with considering this undermining the award's credibility but not the many times she's been snubbed for AOTY. Many blind items often said they voted out of the narrative that she was already acclaimed enough and she didn't need AOTY over the years. That doesn't undermine the award's credibility with you? Them "fixing the narrative" does when voters themselves had said they were "fixing a narrative" re: Beyonce being too accoladed previously?

It's a gold statue from the industry and based on how opinions here can change regarding albums being hits, singles being hits, an artist's narrative, who they worked with on the album, none of us can truly honestly assess art on its own terms. I'd ask you to please tell me in terms of craftsmanship, intention, composition, lyricism, vocal performance, production, on those metrics, you'd have had her lose this year in a vacuum completely not engaging with her previous snubs? Ignoring of course your own genre biases and what you personally like.
I'm not fine with how many times she's been snubbed.
 
You're also apparently not fine with responding to the rest of my post in comparison to Billie. You wanted to bring the take in, defend it!
I'm in the minority with my opinion and that's fine...I said what I said and I stand by it. As for defending it, this is a forum to give opinions. I gave mine and the majority disagrees.... That's that.

What was the post about Billie you're referring to?
 
Look, as much as I adore Beyoncé and appreciate that the Grammys finally gave her an Album of the Year after years of snubs, this win feels more like a long-overdue “legacy correction”.
I get that there’s a lot of pressure on the Grammys to “get it right” but that’s exactly what bothers me. When it hands out an Album of the Year award as a kind of corrective gesture, it undermines the award’s credibility. It comes off as if they’re more concerned with balancing the narrative and appeasing public outcry than with honestly assessing the art on its own terms.

There's truth to voters often looking at the nominees and choosing the person who has the best narrative behind them and Beyoncé being snubbed for AOTY three times is a good narrative. This happens at the other major award show, the Academy Awards, when voters feel like a director or an actor has put in the work and has often been overlooked, they'll vote for said director/actor. It happened with Christopher Nolan last year, it might happen with Demi Moore this year. It just happens. The narrative writes the campaign and Beyoncé is someone who hasn't campaigned for a Grammy in god knows how long, so this time it worked. I would say the nomination is more of the "win" for artistry this year.

And believe me, as a Beyoncé fan, I wish the award was based on simply assessing the art because Beyoncé would have multiple AOTY awards at this point, but it's impossible because how can you make sure everyone is voting purely for the art, you can't. The Grammys are just going to hand out the award to the artist with the most votes, controversial or not. No credibility lost because Cowboy Carter won, that's insane.
 
Some of yall could do with studying one of these
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I'm in the minority with my opinion and that's fine...I said what I said and I stand by it. As for defending it, this is a forum to give opinions. I gave mine and the majority disagrees.... That's that.

What was the post about Billie you're referring to?

Beyonce winning AOTY is such a pussy move by the Grammy voting bloc. She's had way better albums before!! Billie Eilish should have won.
 
Remember when, of all things Harry could've said, he said something like 'This doesn't usually happen to guys like me' AFFFFHHHGGHHG what!!

I don't know why I feel like defending Harry Styles but to be fair he was the first X Factor contestant to win a Grammy, even if it was undeserved.
 

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