Addison Rae - "High Fashion" + Debut Album

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The nine track thing came from the number of emojis in her bio dd. Doubt there’s any legitimacy to that either because these have been there the whole time. Her stan pages kinda flopping, but they’re also probably like 14.

 
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This doesn't sound even remotely like a hit so whats the end game here? Does she want to be a pop star who tours arenas and makes money or does she want to be cool niche girl for the gays? Cuz if it's the former I'm not sure this is working out.
I don't know, some of this feels like denying her autonomy and suggesting the only options are that every decision is methodically and cynically essentially a binary choice of making music with some pandering already in mind.

I know @RJF just scorned it (ddd) but there is sometimes something in just letting the work roll out before making assumptions on its intentions and generalizations over what it's trying to do.

No one involved in this project is some hitmaker *or* some easy niche social media artist. She already tried the homo-pandering with the flop EP of scrapped Gaga and Charli leftovers, for example. Luka Kloser doesn't have any kind of placements in her work that would make a marketing CEO go "yes!".

I wary of making the comparison because it's innately going to be hyperbolic but there's *shades* of the same energy of Britney falling into the studio with random Swedish dudes named Lars and Pontus calling themselves Bloodshy & Avant, with largely only a Christina Milian single to their name.

It's not unprecedented for pop girls to just find an off-kilter set of collaborators who end up making something that isn't explicitly commercially-promising yet is interesting pop music without forcibly trying to be.

Nothing Luka & Elvira have come up with - yet - is as interesting as fellow Swedes like Lars & Pontus, and much more referential, but I don't know... sometimes you just gotta let people cook ddd. Esepcailly when there's such low stakes. No one anticipated Addison Rae of all people earnestly showing natural similarities to 2003-era Britney in a music project she's seemingly pursuing because she wants to when she could be selling makeup on TikTok shop.

Something something history repeats.

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I know @RJF just scorned it (ddd) but there is sometimes something in just letting the work roll out before making assumptions on its intentions and generalizations over what it's trying to do.
nn sis you know I love a good faith argument with you but I'm sorry, this line of reasoning is kind of madness. It also seems inconsistent, and only applies to criticism or any question that is remotely searching. Speculation on what her overall gameplan is is unfair and premature... but comparing her to Britney Spears at her creative peak three singles in is apparently okay and not a reach at all because they both... have worked with Swedish people? Something that never happens in pop music?

If we're not going to project and speculate, then this has to work both ways. If we're not allowed to wonder just how far this entire direction can go, blithly comparing her to the greatest popstars of all time out of desperation for an avatar of those greatest popstars in the current day (cc: Tate McRae) should similarly not be allowed. And then we reach a point where no discussion of the future is allowed until it has happened, and we can't discuss the present because we need to see how it looks in the future, so we might as well lock the thread. It can't be, "Let her cook! ...just like Britney did with Bloodshy & Avant, the most relevant and not at all charged comparison!"

We appear to be at that point in the conversation we were at with Dua Lipa around late 2017, where the forum seemed to think that any kind of questioning or critique was going to huff and puff and blow her career down. She is making a concentrated effort to present her music and her aesthetic in a particular way. She is making a concentrated effort to communicate her influences. She wants to be interacted with, as is the nature of someone putting work out into the public sphere. This is an interaction she's also largely surviving! This conversation has been largely harmless! What is everyone afraid of? Being wrong in six months? Who cares? You're all wrong all the time! I'm wrong sometimes! But I will happily eat my words when I get proved wrong. That’s just the name of the game.

I don't inherently think being patient with a young artist is wrong, but we can still have an opinion on what material there is. We can only all call it as we see it in the moment. I don't think there's anything wrong with casually wondering what the endgame is for someone who is perpetually casting up how much she loves and is influenced by popstars who have had some of the most illustrious careers in the game. Big talk that is easy to make! Let's discuss how well she's walking that walk.
 
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nn sis you know I love a good faith argument with you but I'm sorry, this line of reasoning is kind of madness.
ddddd my post was just laughing at the irony that the phrase I was using was inadvertently something of mass discourse and disagreement just a few pages back (and in itself to emphasize that I think my post is not at all related to the conversation you all were just having).

I think you guys are having a conversation about judging perceived quality, while I'm simply talking about when there's a rush to (negatively) assume things an artist's intentions in the context of what I replied to.

"It's not hitting for me and THAT'S MY OPINION!!" =/= "I can't figure out what cynical marketing ploy this is going for 3 songs in so I'm just going to assume it's homo-pandering and well.. this homo is not pandered to!!", for instance.
 
ddddd my post was just laughing at the irony that the phrase I was using was inadvertently something of mass discourse and disagreement just a few pages back (and in itself to emphasize that I think my post is not at all related to the conversation you all were just having).

I think you guys are having a conversation about judging perceived quality, while I'm simply talking about when there's a rush to (negatively) assume things an artist's intentions in the context of what I replied to.

"It's not hitting for me and THAT'S MY OPINION!!" =/= "I can't figure out what cynical marketing ploy this is going for 3 songs in so I'm just going to assume it's homo-pandering and well.. this homo is not pandered to!!", for instance.
I’m going out for wine, so this will have to be parked until… an undefined point in the future. ❤️
 
I don't know, some of this feels like denying her autonomy and suggesting the only options are that every decision is methodically and cynically essentially a binary choice of making music with some pandering already in mind.

I don't think my question is denying her autonomy. I asked what is her goal and what does she want. Does she want to be a top tier pop star or does she want to occupy a less mainstream space? My post was a little more snarky than that cuz I was in a mood that day dddd. But I don't think there's any denying her of her choices here, I'm curious what she wants this to lead to.
 
Love how every single release has had a great music video ready to go from day one. Even Aquamarine, which was clearly lower budget, fit the song perfectly. It almost feels at odds with the general consensus that the music video is dead, but they’ve really helped build a world for each track. Considering her background in TikTok, it would have been easier to imagine her just making endless 30-second clips edging her songs for months with dumb captions like "Did I just make the song of the summer?!" or "Should I put this on Spotify?!" She's locked onto her vision, and I cannot wait for the album.
 
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Love how every single release has had a great music video ready to go from day one. Even Aquamarine, which was clearly lower budget, fit the song perfectly. It almost feels at odds with the general consensus that the music video is dead, but they’ve really helped build a world for each track. Considering her background in TikTok, it would have been easier to imagine her just making endless 30-second clips edging her songs for months with dumb captions like "Did I just make the song of the summer?!" or "Should I put this on Spotify?!" She's locked onto her vision, and I cannot wait for the album.

Videos, and I think CD and 7” vinyl singles up for pre-order too? Even the “Aquamarine” remix had one. “High Fashion” is the only one that didn’t, but that makes me believe the album is very close
 

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