All Important Single Edits On CD

stecov · Feb 13, 2022

simes1970 said:
Version of Chi Mai on Private Stock records from 1978 is now available digitally running 3 29 which is the same as it's 1978 7" single whereas the BBC version runs a couple of seconds shorter so I think 3 29 is the proper single edit for the track.

I had a logged time of 3.30 for this, coming (I believe) from a European 45 label. However I've amended this to 3.27 after more investigation.

There's a UK BBC 1981 45 on YouTube plays 3.27, which exactly matches the BBC TV Themes CD I referenced earlier.

10 seconds from the start of the final note (3.17) and the audible end of the fade out.

simes1970 · Feb 13, 2022

Is Love Plus One on the NOW 82 Yearbook the single version can anyone confirm?

stecov · Feb 13, 2022

simes1970 said:
Is Love Plus One on the NOW 82 Yearbook the single version can anyone confirm?

I don't have the actual CD, but it appears it is the 45 version. That's what's on the Spotify release, and the time of 3.37 is matched on the Amazon download page. The LP version with the cold ending is only around 3.30.

nlgbbbblth · Feb 19, 2022

Does anybody have Choose 80s Dance CD?
https://www.discogs.com/release/878554-Various-Choose-80s-Dance

I see Steve Walsh's I Found Lovin' is timed at 3.44 which is about 14 seconds longer than the 7"
But an Amazon reviewer states "I found lovin'" fades out well before it used to when it was played on the radio - it might have been better to cut out one or two of the songs to fit in the proper single-length versions." - which doesn't make sense.

I see it's also on another Telstar comp from the same year - The Ultimate Cheeky Party Album - which has 25 tracks per disc. Am presuming it's the same version?

Any info appreciated. Thanks.

Eric Generic · Feb 19, 2022

nlgbbbblth said:
Does anybody have Choose 80s Dance CD?
https://www.discogs.com/release/878554-Various-Choose-80s-Dance

I see Steve Walsh's I Found Lovin' is timed at 3.44 which is about 14 seconds longer than the 7"
But an Amazon reviewer states "I found lovin'" fades out well before it used to when it was played on the radio - it might have been better to cut out one or two of the songs to fit in the proper single-length versions." - which doesn't make sense.

I see it's also on another Telstar comp from the same year - The Ultimate Cheeky Party Album - which has 25 tracks per disc. Am presuming it's the same version?

Any info appreciated. Thanks.

I have that CD, yes. Let me check.

Eric Generic · Feb 19, 2022

The version on my copy runs to 3.38 which is kind of inbetween the listed 7" time and the 3.44 credited (wrongly?) on discogs.

Thought I had more than one copy of this track , for some reason I had the idea it was on Greatest Hits of 1987 but it's not. I also thought the Choose 80s comp was the one with a similarly curtailed "Superstar" by Lydia Murdock but again I misremembered. But it does have the US edit of Mama Used To Say rather than the UK one.

stecov · Feb 19, 2022

The actual play time of the original Steve Walsh 45 is 3.34, but I've got it marked as not on CD (my copy is clearly from vinyl). But I don't have Choose 80s Dance, I might not have considered it just because of the 3.44 listed time on it. Or perhaps the CD has a different edit to the original 45?

stecov · Feb 19, 2022

There's a video and a TOTP appearance on YouTube that seem to match the actual 45.

MusicBrainz lists both Choose 80s Dance and The Chart Show Dance Hits 87 as 3.44 and says 4.14 for The Ultimate Cheeky Party Album. Apart from long versions or tracks which form part of a mix, that seems to be it.

nlgbbbblth · Feb 19, 2022

Thanks all! I remember it was on The Dance Chart '87 vinyl but not the CD.

80s · Feb 20, 2022

nlgbbbblth said:
Does anybody have Choose 80s Dance CD?
https://www.discogs.com/release/878554-Various-Choose-80s-Dance

I see Steve Walsh's I Found Lovin' is timed at 3.44 which is about 14 seconds longer than the 7"
But an Amazon reviewer states "I found lovin'" fades out well before it used to when it was played on the radio - it might have been better to cut out one or two of the songs to fit in the proper single-length versions." - which doesn't make sense.

I see it's also on another Telstar comp from the same year - The Ultimate Cheeky Party Album - which has 25 tracks per disc. Am presuming it's the same version?

Any info appreciated. Thanks.

I had this cd a few years ago and as far as I can remember I Found Lovin' is an edit of the 12 inch mix.
Maybe Eric could confirm this?

Eric Generic · Feb 20, 2022

80s said:
I had this cd a few years ago and as far as I can remember I Found Lovin' is an edit of the 12 inch mix.
Maybe Eric could confirm this?

I'll do some digging to find the CD amongst my old comps and report back.

80s · Feb 20, 2022

Eric Generic said:
I'll do some digging to find the CD amongst my old comps and report back.

Thanks.I could not find an mp3 sample for that cd anywhere on the Internet..

Eric Generic · Feb 20, 2022

I bought it about 17 years ago now, in a long-gone FOPP. One of my earliest 80s comps, when they used to sell them for £5.

80s · Feb 21, 2022

Just wondering is the U.K. single version of Billy Joel Goodnight Saigon on cd.Discogs has a time of 6:05.

stecov · Feb 21, 2022

80s said:
Just wondering is the U.K. single version of Billy Joel Goodnight Saigon on cd.Discogs has a time of 6:05.

Disregard that time. The UK 45 plays 5.44. There are no edits as such, it's just the LP version with a later fade in and early fade out. The US 45 is a few seconds longer for what it's worth.

80s · Feb 21, 2022

stecov said:
Disregard that time. The UK 45 plays 5.44. There are no edits as such, it's just the LP version with a later fade in and early fade out. The US 45 is a few seconds longer for what it's worth.

Thanks again.More wrong information on Discogs.

Eric Generic · Feb 21, 2022

On my copy of the CD album, Goodnight Saigon takes an age to fully fade in so I'm not surprised they trimmed it.

stecov · Feb 21, 2022

Eric Generic said:
On my copy of the CD album, Goodnight Saigon takes an age to fully fade in so I'm not surprised they trimmed it.

Yes, the music doesn't start until around 50 seconds in on the LP version, it's at just 10 seconds in on the 45.
Then it fades before the sound effects kick in fully again. Roughly speaking, you remove 40 seconds at each end.

extinct zebroid · Feb 23, 2022

The edit of Goodnight Saigon is on the new Japanese singles collection, along with several other new-to-CD/rare 7” versions. Not the edit of You’re only human sadly.

stecov · Feb 23, 2022

extinct zebroid said:
The edit of Goodnight Saigon is on the new Japanese singles collection, along with several other new-to-CD/rare 7” versions. Not the edit of You’re only human sadly.

Not quite from a UK point of view, though it seems to match the time on the Japanese 45 which would make it longer than either the UK or US 45s. It's definitely a few seconds longer than the UK 45, you get more of the helicopter intro before the music starts. I can't find the sample at CDJapan any more, but I think the music starts around 17 seconds in, not 10 as on the UK 45. The actual song is not edited at all, just the intro and outro sound effects.