Alt Pop 2020 Rate | #38 Higher than a motherfucker, dreaming of you as my lover

My second 10 is coming up, sad!










It's also someone's 11.​
































@Trouble in Paradise's
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I didn't smile, because a smile always seemed rehearsed
I wasn't afraid of the bullies, and that just made the bullies worse




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11 (@Trouble in Paradise), 10 (@Oleander @Jonathan27 @boombazookajoe @Phonetics Girl and Yours Truly)
LOW 3 (@sfmartin), 5.5 (@Hurricane Drunk @Cotton Park)

@godspeed (8.5) opens with a declaration: "Shameika was right". And she was! One of THE 90's alt-pop/rock/piano/singer-songwriter/I'm a solo woman who should be taken seriously originals has definitely shown her potential time and again over the course of three decades and five albums. From the longest wait since 2012's The Idler Wheel..., 2019 was the year she shared with the world that a new album was coming, materializing in the form of Fetch the Bolt Cutters. Shameika was its first taste, and it's a little iconic that its release date was on my 21st birthday, loved that!

Shameika is the titular classmate that comes to be the only person that has truly stood up for Fiona when she's been attacked or bullied, and in an album that's filled with very dark but humorous retellings of trauma in her relationships, her rejection of systems and celebrity worship, it's quite a hopeful situation when put into perspective. Picturing those scenes is made all the more vivid thanks to the piano and chords running up and down, making a dynamic sound paired with warbling, distortion and the voice that modulates volume and force, screams and whispers as she has gone from fighting a lone fight against school bullies to putting herself against police when her touring band was searched for weed, and so forth. And the awesome thing is she does these switchups from past to present in the jump of a line and this fluidity can almost pass me by for how seamless it is.

I'll let the true fans like @Oleander (10) explain this one: "The wait for a new Fiona album is long but she delivers every time and this song along with its parent album are no different. The way she captures these hyper-specific experiences of hers in such a way that transcends the individual and becomes universal is unparalleled. You can feel everything she feels and instantly relate. Much like Tori Amos, no one plays piano the way that Fiona can play it. The story behind the song of having someone believe in you and having something to believe in (music) despite all the insecurities and judgement from others is beautiful and seeing Fiona reconnect with Shameika and collaborating with her makes the whole thing even sweeter. This song is the culmination of so many of the things I love about Fiona's music and artistry. She never fails to surprise me and speak to my own experiences when she makes her return and it's why she will always be one of my favorite artists of all time.". Totally, Shameika Said was a great add-on to the album and reconnecting through their mutual third grade teacher and poet Linda Kunhardt, and it leading to this must-read Pitchfork article about the pair coming together and instantly realizing they vibrated in the same wavelength. It's a reinvigorating article and story to be honest.

Finally, @Trouble in Paradise (11) has the mic: "Once I saw Ms Apple’s name, I knew my 11 would go straight to her. No hyperbole, Fiona Apple is one of my life guides. She taught me it’s okay to be painfully present in the world. To see firsthand the horrors of the system we live in and speak up instead of shutting down. To dare to be in our pain and tell about it. To dare to be exactly who we want to be, fuck everyone else. To remember the kindness, no matter how brief, of someone believing in you. Especially as a painfully sensitive child. I don’t know who I’d be without Fiona Apple’s music". Beautifully put about one hell of a human and crucial force in the musical landscape since 1996. Love!



 
I’m sorry what?
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Unmention it, bestie! This elimination is a tragedy.
Tell me about it. Wish I could point individual fingers, but its best chance was at like 12 voters, when it was in the top 25, and that's before my lovely @Trouble in Paradise had even cast his votes. The uglies just came evenly spread out and what can I say? This placement was THE shock of the rate for me and I guess I shouldn't be playing with putting actual legends in big versus rates like this one.

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I cannot process this. Fiona Apple should be Top 10 you idiots.

Let them know baby!
 
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I did think that would do better since it's Fiona Apple and all, but I can't say I'm that surprised it's out already either. It's very much a "I respect it but never find myself actually wanting to listen to it" kind of song to me (I gave it a 7).
 
My third 10 and second in a row is coming up, sad!










What is our cruelty?
Who decides what we are
When all we have is ourselves




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10 (@Jonathan27 and Yours Truly), 9.5 (@Trouble in Paradise)
LOW 5.5 (@Hurricane Drunk), 6 (@Cotton Park)

Iranian by birth, Dutch by upbringing extraordinaire Sevdaliza is not only a force that has been featured in PJSC for a while now and has gained some recognition on this forum, but her credentials in real life also include professional national team basketball player, occasional model and polyglot (she's fluent in Persian, Dutch, English, French and Portuguese, and we find pretty much all of them in her music).

And this mix of backgrounds and walks of life that she's been in seem to bleed into the lyrics of Lamp Lady, a song with R&B leanings and gorgeous strings by frequent instrumentalist collaborator Mihai Puscoiu, because they turn our attention towards a woman selling goods on the market somewhere in the streets of Tehran, as she lingers on the questions of her path in life. It's interesting in that there's only one verse repeated twice, maybe to show us how persistent these thoughts are on Lamp Lady's day-to-day. Perhaps this character is someone Sevdaliza often dreams about, or she fantasizes to be in an alternate life, or what she imagines one of her ancestors to be like. That aura of mystery and not getting the full picture by choice of the narrator is a common thing with her songs and I'm a sucker for it.

@godspeed (7.5) sings his high praises: "The entire Shabrang album should have been included in this rate. It’s a masterpiece". Well in that case it seems the extras selection was a bit of a misdirection since I'm thinking you have far more loved tracks in the album? Happy you enjoy it so much too though, it has always been a tighter listen than ISON to me.

On @Trouble in Paradise's (9.5) side, we simply hear that: "Sevdaliza serves a whole damn mood and I hope the girls are here for it!". Here is something they were more or less not! I kid, it did better than I expected and I'm okay with that. Stream one of her spellbinding sets below, which includes Lamp Lady.


 
Well in that case it seems the extras selection was a bit of a misdirection since I'm thinking you have far more loved tracks in the album?
Oh definitely! I think "Lamp Lady" is good but quite tame compared to songs like "Habibi," "Oh My God," "Shabrang," "Darkest Hour," "Joanna" or "Rhode." I don't think it's the track that represents the album the best but it's probably its most accessible one and maybe that will make some voters who liked it check out Shabrang – as they should. So I understand your reasoning behind picking "Lamp Lady" for the rate and totally respect it!
 
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Myself so I follow the days
Lost in the sea




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10 (@Phonetics Girl), 9 (@Trouble in Paradise @Aester @Oleander)
LOW 4.5 (@Hurricane Drunk), 7 (@Dijah. @2014 @R27 @CorgiCorgiCorgi)

Hailing from Lancashire, our next casualty is Charlotte OC. Her music history started back in 2011 with her debut album, For Kenny, released under Columbia, label which she had signed a four-record deal with. However, after she was unfortunately dropped, she went into other ventures like hairdressing and then had a journey between being indie and distributing her releases under Polydor, having a prolific time releasing three EPs and an album between 2015-2018. Freedom, then, comes from her 2020 EP Oh the Agony, Oh the Ecstasy.

While as a smaller DIY artist, comparisons to other women in the spectrum such as Bat for Lashes have arosen, and also it's of interest that she is close with Diana Vickers as they went to the same school, Charlotte takes her soul music influences and puts them her own spin. In this track we hear a bit of the wonder of late night doubting, refering to the ocean, fear of being authentic and how hitting rock bottom is a freedom that can perhaps lead to bulding up more oportunities of liberty for yourself out of the darkness you discover. I love the imagery and how the deep piano flows with the drums and of course her vocal performance nailing the emotional states at 12 am. However I do feel the bridge doesn't elevate the track and perticularly its last chorus like it could.

@Ana Raquel (8) is a fan, with the compliment: "It sounds like something I would love in 2012". Next to stuff like Electra Heart? Okay I can see that. Meanwhile, @Trouble in Paradise (9) gets it exactly: "Serving Quirky Pop Side B rate discovery for me! Love her delivery". The Diana influence! Check out the studio live performance below for some ear candy too.


 
At this rate, I'll be out of 10s before we hit top 40.
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I had a dream the results of this rate leaked and Haim were the top 2 with Now I'm In It but #1 was a fake song invented for the purpose of the dream. This made me realise I can't even picture which songs will get top 10 aside from Haim domination, which is kinda refreshing for a rate. I swear the whole thing lives rent free in my head, whew!
 
At this rate, I'll be out of 10s before we hit top 40.
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I had a dream the results of this rate leaked and Haim were the top 2 with Now I'm In It but #1 was a fake song invented for the purpose of the dream. This made me realise I can't even picture which songs will get top 10 aside from Haim domination, which is kinda refreshing for a rate. I swear the whole thing lives rent free in my head, whew!
Let's wait and see if Phonetics Girltradamus is right

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And if my child needed protection
From a fucker like that man
I'd sooner gut him




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10 (@Trouble in Paradise), 9.5 (@Cotton Park @Dijah.)
LOW 6 (@CorgiCorgiCorgi), 6.5 (@Phonetics Girl @Hurricane Drunk)

Paramore frontwoman gone solo for an album campaign, preceded by two EPs, started with Simmer (the Body Talk tea with that release strategy, though). The track has a dark atmospheric undertone adorned by Hayley harmonizing with breaths and sighs. I very much appreciate how minimal the track starts, and you get a sense of buildup with not only the instrumental, but with how she adds onto the idea of observing, analyzing and dealing with anger in her life.

For instance, the first verse sets the scene for how the mechanisms she had to cope with this feeling seemed to work out, until they didn't. And after the first chorus, she offers quick glances into what was her divorce from New Found Glory's Chad Gilbert. Not valuing her own worth while they were in a relationship, disproportionately blaming herself for their separation, etc., only to tap into that rage to say out low that she'd never let her own younger self or future daughter go through the heartbreak experience with the intensity she did. But Hayley comes around this when she redirects her attention and doesn't let the feeling overpower or control her in the stir of the moment.

If I have any criticism is that I perhaps want to feel even more uncomfortable and tense with the promising sounds that she explores here. Harsher drums, solos, and all that would pair well in a dissonant way with her cool and collected vocal delivery in the track. But these are just some ideas. @R27 (7) has an idea of their own: "I appreciate the tense/borderline uncomfortable energy of the song, but it would take this year's Flowers for Vases / Descansos to really get me into her solo career". As does @BubblegumBoy (9), who wants to take the stage to stan for a different track that was part of the album's first EP release: "If this had been Dead Horse, it would probably have come for my 11".

Finally, @Trouble in Paradise (10) has some confessions: "I never enjoyed Paramore and didn’t imagine I’d ever give Hayley Williams’s solo stuff a listen but after seeing her do so well on the PJ Charts and hearing descriptions of her album and its collaborators I finally gave in. I’m so glad I did! Simmer has lodged itself onto many of my playlists and its chorus is permanently lodged in my brain! My dark horse for the crown! Or at least last extra standing if some Fiona haters voted". I haven't listened to Hayley beyond this track and Paramore beyond the odd single and the After Laughter album (which was great) so definitely will follow you up with the good references towards her solo material, as a starting point. As for the unfortunate happening that Fiona placed 16th and Hayley 13th from the extras, I can just say I'm sorry this turned out so bad for you love!


 
We reach a stop on the extras bloodbath station here.
















And if my child needed protection
From a fucker like that man
I'd sooner gut him




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HIGH
10 (@Trouble in Paradise), 9.5 (@Cotton Park @Dijah.)
LOW 6 (@CorgiCorgiCorgi), 6.5 (@Phonetics Girl @Hurricane Drunk)

Paramore frontwoman gone solo for an album campaign, preceded by two EPs, started with Simmer (the Body Talk tea with that release strategy, though). The track has a dark atmospheric undertone adorned by Hayley harmonizing with breaths and sighs. I very much appreciate how minimal the track starts, and you get a sense of buildup with not only the instrumental, but with how she adds onto the idea of observing, analyzing and dealing with anger in her life.

For instance, the first verse sets the scene for how the mechanisms she had to cope with this feeling seemed to work out, until they didn't. And after the first chorus, she offers quick glances into what was her divorce from New Found Glory's Chad Gilbert. Not valuing her own worth while they were in a relationship, disproportionately blaming herself for their separation, etc., only to tap into that rage to say out low that she'd never let her own younger self or future daughter go through the heartbreak experience with the intensity she did. But Hayley comes around this when she redirects her attention and doesn't let the feeling overpower or control her in the stir of the moment.

If I have any criticism is that I perhaps want to feel even more uncomfortable and tense with the promising sounds that she explores here. Harsher drums, solos, and all that would pair well in a dissonant way with her cool and collected vocal delivery in the track. But these are just some ideas. @R27 (7) has an idea of their own: "I appreciate the tense/borderline uncomfortable energy of the song, but it would take this year's Flowers for Vases / Descansos to really get me into her solo career". As does @BubblegumBoy (9), who wants to take the stage to stan for a different track that was part of the album's first EP release: "If this had been Dead Horse, it would probably have come for my 11".

Finally, @Trouble in Paradise (10) has some confessions: "I never enjoyed Paramore and didn’t imagine I’d ever give Hayley Williams’s solo stuff a listen but after seeing her do so well on the PJ Charts and hearing descriptions of her album and its collaborators I finally gave in. I’m so glad I did! Simmer has lodged itself onto many of my playlists and its chorus is permanently lodged in my brain! My dark horse for the crown! Or at least last extra standing if some Fiona haters voted". I haven't listened to Hayley beyond this track and Paramore beyond the odd single and the After Laughter album (which was great) so definitely will follow you up with the good references towards her solo material, as a starting point. As for the unfortunate happening that Fiona placed 16th and Hayley 13th from the extras, I can just say I'm sorry this turned out so bad for you love!



Ahh given that my real life has been getting stitches for cutting myself cooking alone then getting a stomach virus that emptied me of everything in me, allowing me a chance to re-emerge new, I have accepted Fiona’s treatment and my overall taste being at odds with the voters!
 
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