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Avatar: The Way of Water (Teaser OUT NOW)

Discussion in 'TV + Film' started by AudioScience, Nov 19, 2009.

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    James Camerons new one - basically, a huge huge movie both in scope and in the amount of tech involved in making it. There's some hugely advanced 3D work going on here, and it looks absolutely fantastic. The initial teaser trailer suffered from video-game-like visuals but the latest trailer is very polished, and very amazing.

    It seems to be entirely set on a different planet (Pandora) with humans fighting the inhabitants (Na'Vi) for possession of land and resources. The avatar of the title is a soldier (Sam Worthington) who uses an avatar-body of one of the Na'Vi. I'll let the trailer explain the rest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PSNL1qE6VY

    Stunning.
     
  2. I'll go see it in 3D for the spectacle, but I can't help thinking the story sounds quite uninspired. Alien natives versus evil hi-tech invaders - it feels like it'll basically be the Ewok battle from Return of the Jedi, only it's a full-length movie this time.

    Also, they have the technology to transfer his mind into another body, but not to fix his legs?
     
  3. The Avatars were built to interact with other species etc - not for medical reasons as far as I know. The general guy said "I'll see to it that you get your legs back" in the trailer so I'd assume that's an easily doable thing.
     
  4. Charley

    Charley Staff Member

  5. DELGO!

    I have to see that at some stage. It's something like one of the lowest grossing movies of all time if I remember rightly, and I think they tried to sue James Cameron too? It must have some element of so-bad-it's-good quality if they're willing to sue a moviemaking behemoth like him.

    I think the case got thrown out in the end mainly because Avatar is about ten years in the making, so was written pre-Delgo. I'm still surprised it's actually out soon, at one point I thought it would be delayed for a decade.
     
  6. Tribal Spaceman

    Tribal Spaceman Oh, OK.

    I only realised a few weeks ago that this wasn't an adaption of the anime series of the same name.

    Does this mean that every cinema will be showing it?
    I usually have to travel 20-30 miles to see a 3D film as it's only the big chains that usually bother with them.
     
  7. It sounds like Dances with Wolves on another planet. I'll probably go and see it with the family to alleviate my Xmas boredom though.
     
  8. They are doing an adaptation of the other Avatar, funnily enough - it's called "The Last Airbender" though, presumably to avoid any confusion (think it's out pretty soon too, early next year perhaps?). It's being done by M. Night Shamalamadingdong so will probably be rubbish.

    3D showings seem to be in quite a lot of Odeon and Cineworld cinemas now, so fingers crossed there's one of those near you!
     
  9. Charley

    Charley Staff Member

    Dev Patel (Skins / Slumdog Millionaire) is going to be in it!
     
  10. IotV

    IotV Guest

    Definitely going to see this, but can't help but feel it'll be a let-down.
     
  11. It scored the worst opening weekend for a film on wide release - from over 2,000 screens in the US it took less than $1 million. It cost $40 million to make. I think the correct word is 'ouch'.

    I'm sort of looking forward to Avatar, but it surely has the most aggressive marketing campaign since Skins. The trailer has preceded almost every film I've been to in the last six months. It's getting to the stage where I'm wondering if they'll be sending an armed escort to my house on the day of release.
     
  12. MOP

    MOP Guest

    It isn't?

    *sadface*
     
  13. Nope, but that's happening too! Hopefully they'll do a good job - it's one of the best American cartoons going.
     
  14. Tribal Spaceman

    Tribal Spaceman Oh, OK.

    AVATAR: THE LAST BENDER would be a good film.
     
  15. I saw this last night, it was ok. They do push the whole "Us" & "Them" envelope a bit too much, and it's predictable as hell, but it's very entertaining.
     
  16. Just saw this at IMAX3D and it was amazing! so much better than 2012!
     
  17. I haven't seen this yet and don't really intend to.
    Being visually stunning is all well and good, but the plot just sounds so tired. I mean, it's almost the exact plot of Fern Gully for goodness sakes!
     
  18. 1. There are no new ideas.

    2. Fern Gully is fantastic.
     
  19. Fern Gully IS fantastic!
    CGI in general just doesn't impress me, and I don't think I could sit through a whole movie of it. If I want to watch Fern Gully, I'll just watch Fern Gully and enjoy the lovely old school animation.
     
  20. (Some slight spoilers below, I guess?)

    I saw this today. I enjoyed it, it really is a brilliant visual spectacle. The big battle towards the end is one of the best things I've seen in a film. The stuff before that was a bit slow at times, but I did enjoy discovering the world even if some of the concepts are really ridiculous.

    The effects were great which probably goes without saying, but I was impressed by the amount of character they were able to give the alien characters - they were more relatable than most of the humans. It did the thing where the two main characters fall in love 'just because' and we didn't really get into the why of it, but a lot of films do this (including Cameron's own Titanic) so I don't think I can specifically criticise Avatar for that. It's just one of my pet hates!

    Was surprised they never mentioned the question of attraction though; Jake falls for Neytiri while in his Na'vi body, but he was still a human mind and I thought they'd have at least some dialogue about the fact he fancied a pretty non-human looking alien. Seemed like it could have been an interesting source of internal conflict for the film to explore, but it's not mentioned at all! I also found myself wondering what would've been different if the Na'vi hadn't been humanoid, or were really really alien-looking (like giant prawns or something - imagine those love scenes!).

    One subtle bit of effects work I appreciated was that they bothered to make Sam Worthington's legs look atrophied; there were several moments where I forgot he wasn't paraplegic in real life, so well done there.
     
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