BEYONCÉ - act i RENAISSANCE | Page 326 | The Popjustice Forum


Discussion in 'Pop & Justice' started by Ensnare, Jun 10, 2021.

  1. Thique opening with “ass getting bigger…” in that raspy voice always makes me cackle
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  2. RainOnFire

    RainOnFire Staff Member

    There was a lot of groundwork that led to it, but Self-Titled was the moment and I think this bit highlights why -
    None of it would be possible if the music and videos weren't as phenomenal as they were, but in a year that everyone was so loud (the VMAs that year felt like 2011's show in terms of being, for better or worse, the perfect time capsule for that period in pop), for her to quietly drop the album and still command the most attention was the signifier that she had ascended.
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  3. It's just so inch resting to me how there's seemingly no problem in my life lately that this album can't solve. The power that has.
  4. I've often wondered if she agreed to do it because she's been on massive, nationally televised talent shows herself.. and lost.
    Maybe supporting a contestant, especially a young black woman, resonated with her and made her say yes when she wouldn't usually.
  5. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    I think too (and perhaps I may have leapfrogged this) but she ensured that 2013 had everyone's attention for her work. She edged everyone for months. The tour. The Super Bowl. The endorsements. When we remember "changed the world with that digital drop"... her build-up to a rejection of the 2-3 year album drop with 3-4 singles and videos model was real - that was it. She spent that entire year pivoting back from the transition of 4. That's where I think she truly changed as an artist. She took control of her talents and let them command attention from her audience, not the other way around. It wasn't simply BEYONCÉ alone - it was the will-she, won't-she atmosphere of its eventual release. She spent months checking in on our level of investment, and delivered when she knew that we weren't going anywhere. Beyoncé is nothing but studied and aware as an artist, as proven by this album's samples and its cultural touchpoints. The journey past 4's necessary self-realization and the hill up to BEYONCÉ (and especially motherhood) were her watershed. She stopped asking for respect and instead understood her power to receive it. That's such a moment.
  6. I got a bit wet reading that. This album is a classic.
  7. Thinking back to February/March 2013 when basically all we had to go on was Bow Down/I Been On, a looped snippet of Grown Woman from the Pepsi ad, and the Super Bowl afterglow (had Standing On the Sun even leaked yet?)...part of me almost misses the uncertainty in the air about whether we'd even get an album
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  8. And of course

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  9. When we were stitching together the various Pepsi commercials to get a minute of Grown Woman.

  10. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    I still have a Soundcloud rip of where they pitched up her vocals on "I Been On"...
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  11. It's nuts giving I Am... Sasha Fierce a spin after listening to RENAISSANCE. The former has always felt like such an odd duck in her discography, but it's like we're listening to two different artists at this point.
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  12. It's too much to hope that she retires Halo for the tour, isn't it?
  13. We need to manifest
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  14. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    I thnk I Am... Sasha Fierce is just as important as 4 tho...

    It was a complete buff-and-shine to her hallmarks as performer. It was a way to make herself utterly commercial and to dilute her talents into a highly-digestible form. 4 then set the stage for the push-away from that and to allow her space to be not so... seemingly transparent. I think record-wise they're both necessary parts of her progression.
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  15. Oh for sure. Denying its impact is foolish! It really cemented her as a superstar commercially if not creatively. A lesser artist would have taken all the wrong lessons from that $ucce$$, chased more anodyne and safer material. It's testament to Bey that she had her sights set on far grander stuff.
  16. I wish her live sets pre-Homecoming were on streaming (or maybe they already are, I haven't looked in a while). The 2009 Vegas show is great.
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  17. Every professionally recorded tour is on YouTube in great quality, and there are great fan edits for Formation and On The Run too!
  18. Can she put Grown Woman on Spotify

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  19. She’s a Grown Woman. She can do whatever she want.


    The Platinum Edition not giving us that and the original Standing on the Sun remains her most heinous decision of that era.
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