#bientôt - DALIDA - A Short Highlight Of An Illustrious Career!

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Our SILVER medalist, very very closely is.....








































































































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Mourir Sur Scene

Average Score: 9.107
Highest Score: 11 x 2 (@Ana Raquel @əʊæ)
10 x 6 (@pop3blow2 @Maki @vague @Riiiiiiiii @nnnumb @berserkboi)
Lowest Score: 4 x 1 (@Empty Shoebox)​

So, from the fourth ballot up until Lady Of Shoeboxes’ this was your runaway winner of the Dalida Rate. The first track to receive multiple 11s and a multitude of high scores, nothing was coming close to beating Mourir Sur Scene for weeks (Soleil was inching a little closer than most but there was still a comfortable distance between them). Then came a Hail Mary grenade in the form of the Shoebox Extraordinnaire’s ballot – zeros aplenty! Low scores everywhere including a 4 for our winner BUT a trinity of high scores – one for Le Temps Des Fleurs (which was ever in the Top 5) changing the song at the top! The later voters repaired the gap between the two until we were down to only 1.1 point separating the two! That’s right voters – if we all changed our score by 0.1 to Le Temps Des Fleurs – we would be crowning Mourir Sur Scene, that’s how close they are on the leaderboard!

Mourir Sur Scene has a bit of fame in the PopJustice forum already, being Dalida’s best performer in a song contest when it came #6 in PJOPS 40 (Spotlight I wrote for it then). Funnily enough when chatting with the Lady Of Shoeboxes about that round, she told me Mourir Sur Scene was in her “Maybe” pile for points, and ends up giving it a 4/10 – I am not sure she was a particularly great fan of that round then ddddd. It was also the first taste of Dalida for now bonafide Mourir Sur Scene enthusiast @əʊæ (Lady Of Taste, who pretty much got her dream Top 4 here), and I really banked on its strength to have her preview the playlist and be my first voter. We also recently got it to chart in @ohnostalgia’s Monthly Charts – extending its appeal as far as possible.

All this goes to show that Mourir Sur Scene does possess a magnetism about it, since I never expected a song I have adored for decades in a foreign language to connect so strongly with so many who don’t speak said language. Once you break the surface of the gorgeous instrumental (which I always thought It’s A Sin by the Pet Shop Boys sampled in the instrumental breakdown, but there’s only a similarity) you have some of the most beautiful biographical lyrics put to music – except we had yet to know that when it first came out.

Released in 1983, Dalida reportedly did not like the track very much at all when she first heard it (Dalida having her own Ace Reject, almost winning a rate) but her brother Orlando convinced her to record it, feeling there was something special about this understated song. Since Mourir Sur Scene was never called to be the star of the show when it came to Dalida’s new album – it was relegated to B-Side treatment for single Les P’tits Mots (one of her smaller hits, though it did reach #10 in Monaco and #13 in France). However, once Dalida previewed the tracks from her new album live, Mourir Sur Scene connected with the audience massively! The extremely positive reception for her performance saw the track become a staple in her live shows for the rest of her life (up to her last concert in Turkey in 1987 before she committed suicide).

Lyrically depicting Dalida’s wish to die in the public eye, Mourir Sur Scene is one of the most eerie songs we have here. The poetry of a theatrical death which will resonate and make her a legend is a seductive proposal, which as we know she succumbs to a few years later. The sad thing is that Dalida already was legendary with the many doors she opened in the music industry for women, foreigners, and countless minorities; but the many losses that go along with the highs take a huge toll. The drama and poignancy of “Ma vie a brûlé sous trop de lumières, Je ne peux pas partir dans l'ombre” stays with me always, adding a layer of brutal honesty to how stars must keep topping each achievement with the next – the strain of the expectations that are placed on humans, intensified.

Mourir Sur Scene has left an immense legacy on French Music, now seen as an 80s standard (Dalida’s repertoire is filled to the brim with songs that are now deemed treasures of French music) many acts have performed it over the years and even Shirley Bassey tried her hand singing it in English to a tepid effect (and I say this as a general fan of Bassey, but nothing beats the original French lyrics). Mourir Sur Scene has become an emblematic song in Dalida’s repertoire due to how truly it depicts the event of her life and death, and as recently as 2017 – it has re-entered the French charts, and even charted in 2012 in Belgium! A legacy defining song of a legend!

@Sprockrooster (8) may regret being so stringent here if this was his pick to win out of the two tracks, had he upgraded the score to a 9.2 – Mourir Sur Scene would be the one! - This completely drowns in all the other stellar tracks. A bit downscored to prevent handing out one 9 or 10 after the other. @Disco Blister (8) may be in the same corner as Sprocky above - You can see that the 80’s were not a very good time for Dalida, like so many other 60’s or 70’s female artists. The sounds of the 80’s were rather cold in her genre. This is obviously a rather good track and chilling because of the title, even if the production is typical of the era and quite dated now.

@pop3blow2 (10) says it all in three words, though I am hoping appreciates my essay above! Ddddd — Well, this nice. @Maki (10) is all for the amazing drama here, how I wish and wish you were in those rounds of PJOPS with Mourir and Malade! - One of the best up-tempo songs I've heard from her so far, the delivery is really good. The lyrics are so eerily reflective and tragic, while the song is somewhat a mixture of uplifting and depressing moods, which exactly replicates the highs and lows of her life. The chorus is a complete ace. Deserves the title of one of her staple songs (oops, I just bumped its score to a 10).

@nnnumb (10) got his first taste of Dalida in a Song Contest with this one, and I think he still fondly remembers it! - Uptempo songs about death are always 10s. @Ana Raquel (11) uncovers one of my potential rate ideas! - This sounds like an anime opening from the 70s/80s. I dig it.

@WowWowWowWow (8) can visualise more TV shows that should have been afforded Dalida while alive – Like the theme song to a movie where Dalida plays a police officer trying to balance the pressure of the force with her home life! I swear I’m not high. I just saw that it was from 1983 and it sounds like the French-speaking cousin of Flashdance or Fame. @əʊæ (11) depicts just how powerfully Dalida delivers a Heartbreak On The Dancefloor classic, never to be bettered! - Just... triumphant. Makes me want to simultaneously fist pump and twirl pensively in a ball gown. Ms. Mort had made several points








The exquisiteness!
 
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OMG!!! Versailles No Bara is one of my all time favourite Animes!!! I have two DVD boxset releases of it in French!!! Where have you been all my life @Ana Raquel ???!!!!!

Also - do you know this little gem from the 80s?


SIS THE TASTE JUMPED OUT!!!!! It's one of my favorite mangas and I'm dying from the inside because it's currently being released here and I can't buy them because they are too expensive.

Noooooo, at least not this version. I think I heard the portuguese one years ago but I didn't found it. Saint Seiya was one of my favorite animes when I was a kid, by the way.
 
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Saint Seiya is Les Chevaliers Du Zodiaque so we are talking about the same thing! :D OMG!!! Does @saviodxl know it too? I hear it is still HUGE in Brazil all these years later!! Whenever I need a good cry, I'd either watch the Camus vs Hyoga fight in the Aquarius Temple or the Mime vs Ikki fight, that ending!!! We must indeed do something about all this #soon!
 
Saint Seiya is Les Chevaliers Du Zodiaque so we are talking about the same thing! :D OMG!!! Does @saviodxl know it too? I hear it is still HUGE in Brazil all these years later!! Whenever I need a good cry, I'd either watch the Camus vs Hyoga fight in the Aquarius Temple or the Mime vs Ikki fight, that ending!!! We must indeed do something about all this #soon!
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Saint Seiya is Les Chevaliers Du Zodiaque so we are talking about the same thing! :D OMG!!! Does @saviodxl know it too? I hear it is still HUGE in Brazil all these years later!! Whenever I need a good cry, I'd either watch the Camus vs Hyoga fight in the Aquarius Temple or the Mime vs Ikki fight, that ending!!! We must indeed do something about all this #soon!
it was really famous last decade and in the 90s, but I don't think it's as strong now. Still, the rivalry with dragon ball z was a thing (and i always preferred saint seiya so)
 
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On the the WINNER and GOLD Medalist we go!

















































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Le Temps Des Fleurs

Average Score: 9.171
Highest Score: 11 x 1 (@Empty Shoebox) – SHOCKER Part Deux!!!
10 x 6 (@pop3blow2 @Maki @vague @soratami @əʊæ @berserkboi)
Lowest Score: 6.9 x 1 (@nnnumb)​


As we can all see from the above scores, our eventual winner of the Dalida Spotlight Rate is one of the least divisive tracks on the playlist. Le Temps Des Fleurs only had that one mildly low score from Mr. Nnnumb and mostly a sea of 9+ from the rest of us (the next lowest score was an 8 by 4 voters, which is quite high still). Not what I anticipated would win this rate AT ALL, as I always thought it would come to a head between a BOP like Laissez Moi Danser and a BALLAD like Pour Ne Pas Vivre Seul but a little chanson from the 60s takes it all – and I cannot say I am totally against it!

As is becoming tradition - with all the rates I have run so far, we have an unexpected winner at the top; the great thing is now we have another from the 60s to join the greatness of Be My Baby in the next Winners Rate – so in a way, all of PopJustice wins! It’s fascinating that many of us don’t even think of Le Temps Des Fleurs as a signature Dalida track when we discuss songs that have stayed with us since her death, as it is actually one of her most successful lead singles of her entire discography and part of a revered album era to boot!

We’ll get the elephant out of the room first – many call this a cover of Mary Hopkin’s hit “Those Were The Days” but in reality both Le Temps Des Fleurs and Those Were The Days are adaptations of an old Russian romance song Дорогой длинною composed by Boris Fomin all the way back in 1924. Our winner isn’t without drama attached either! Gene Raskin (the songwriter of the Mary Hopkin version) took credit for the composition as well as the lyric when he licensed the song to Eddie Barclay for Dalida’s take. However 5 years later, when it was discovered that Raskin was only the songwriter, and not the original composer and had been receiving royalties for the song without merit. Barclay thus stops giving Raskin a portion of the annual profits and sues him for a refund once he finds out, but the lawsuit was later abandoned without Barclay getting a refund for the royalties he paid out for the previous years.

Le Temps Des Fleurs leads Dalida’s album of the same name roughly two years after Luigi Tenco’s suicide and sees our star begin her journey of purposefully selecting songs that have a reflective and nostalgic quality to them. A triumph as soon as released, it is Dalida’s first single to debut at #1 in France and remained at the top for 4 weeks. Such a success it was, the song had to be reissued three times (a record for her then label Barclay still) to keep up with demand, eventually earning Dalida her 28th GOLD Disc. This excellent reception also prompted Dalida to record versions in Italian and German – with her takes making the Top 20 in both countries, and the Top 10 in Belgium, Switzerland, Monte Carlo and Canada.

The demand for Le Temps Des Fleurs (the album) is even greater still – reissued 4 times since released, it is the most re-released album in Dalida’s entire discography! This includes a vinyl release from 2002 for the collectors out there! Le Temps Des Fleurs (album) was described by critics of the era as “a poetic masterpiece with very sweet, sweet music”, and was a huge commercial success – becoming the best selling album of 1968 by a French artist despite only being released in December of that year! TALENT!!!

Now, Le Temps Des Fleurs – why did it win the Dalida Spotlight Rate? I think @Disco Blister hit the nail on the head when he mentions familiarity in our English speaking part of the world! Those Were The Days is indeed a classic and a chart topper many of us have grown up with so to hear a familiar tune probably helped inflate our scores a little. However, let’s not take Dalida out of this equation completely – what she delivers here is on par or better than Mary’s “original”. The Russian instrumental suits French text in a way no one could have expected. Though when thinking about it, since the original Russian version is romantic, with lyrics by Poet Konstantin Podrevsky – it stands to reason a beautifully musical and romantic language like French would provide a great blend.

To top it off, you have Dalida delivering a honeyed but slightly husky vocal over the whole thing, which is just magical – taking the nostalgic aspect of the instrumental to dizzying heights. Dalida’s strength has always been her vocal versatility and you get so many aspects of that here from the nostalgic tone to the reflective and resigned layer she implements towards the end before the outro sees her lose herself completely in vocal loops – the Lady of The Theatre strikes again! Further to all this – she gets @Empty Shoebox to give out an 11 in a rate – the power of Dalida!! Is there anything she cannot do??

@Sprockrooster (8) is a chanson enthusiast, so will probably support this win? - This sounds like a pre-90's French languaged entry at Eurovision, which is a compliment. @Maki (10) is consistent, though try and check out the real original from 1924 – it is also quite gorgeous! :) - It took me a moment to realize which song is the original - "Those Were the Days" is a masterpiece. But a Dalida cover of a 10/10 song is always a 10/10.

@pop3blow2 (10) sounds like he supports this winner as much as he would have Captain Sky! - I really like this. This might be my fave so far. Giving a 10 for now but may come back & make it my 11. (edit: Nevermind, found another 11. This one is really good, though!). @əʊæ (10) is just in victory lap mode now (please vote for it in the June Charts too!) - Not a day has passed since doing this rate when this wouldn't be stuck in my head.

@Disco Blister (8) starts our choir of Dalida Does It Better! - I always associate Those Were The Days with other singers in a few other languages, and I’m rather sick of it no matter who sings it, but obviously Dalida does it rather well. And how beautiful is she in that clip? @nnnumb (6.9) gets the Beyonce solo of the Dalida Does It Better song - An improvement on the original. @WowWowWowWow (8) gives us that Alesha Dixon garage flavour rap verse - Queen of unexpected covers! (Or unexpected to me because I can’t speak French and I am uncultured about the music of the earlier years.)











 
Well, that's a both unexpected and deserving winner. "Le Temps Des Fleurs" was never the song I imagined would win.
I would've personally preferred "Mourir Sur Scene" as a winner out of the top 2 songs, but both are amazing.

And I mistakenly said "Those Were the Days" was 'original', while I meant that one was released before the Dalida version.
I've heard the real original maybe once before this rate, and it is beautiful, too.

Thank you @berserkboi for doing this rate and sharing all these fantastic write-ups with us!

And thanks @Empty Shoebox for showing us how to tactically vote and get our 11's to win.
Congrats on your 11 winning!
 
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Thanks for your lovely words everyone! I'll have a voter average post soon and also have the 'remix' thing going shortly, once I tweak how that would work best (Gimme the weekend).

Also, I don't think you are being serious but let's be nice to @Empty Shoebox - there's no way she could have known Mourir Sur Scene was at the top and her ballot would decide the winner like that! Xxx
 
Thanks for your lovely words everyone! I'll have a voter average post soon and also have the 'remix' thing going shortly, once I tweak how that would work best (Gimme the weekend).
That sounds great! And I still have one mini spotlight song that I've been delaying for ages.
Also, I don't think you are being serious but let's be nice to @Empty Shoebox - there's no way she could have known Mourir Sur Scene was at the top and her ballot would decide the winner like that! Xxx
Of course I was not serious about that, but it was a nice coincidence.
 
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Let's get to the VOTER AVERAGES for the Dalida Rate!

Highest to Lowest we go!

1. @berserkboi - 9.550 - To No One's Surprise!
2. @pop3blow2 - 8.691 - A Dalida Newbie with this high average - TASTE!!!
3. @vague - 8.486 - Ditto - TASTE TASTE TASTE!!!
4. @Riiiiiiiii - 8.444 - Pour Ne Pas Vivre Seul Enthusiast!
5. @Maki - 8.363 - The commentator Extraordinaire - We stan!!

6. @andymc35 - 8.213 - A First Rate Rater!
7. TIE! - @Ana Raquel and @Sprockrooster - 8.027 - A Bop Lover and a Dalida Stan tie - a rate that does both!!
9. @Disco Blister - 8.013 - A Dalida Encyclopedia!
10. @soratami - 8.000 - Our other BIG Dalida Enthusiast!

11. @WowWowWowWow - 7.708 - The Dalida Christopher Columbus! :D
12. @əʊæ - 7.638 - You'll find her on Dalida's Gondole!
13. @nnnumb - 7.586 - The New Standard In Dalida Stanning!
14. @Empty Shoebox - 4.277 - The Low Scorer, yet still giving Dalida an 11 - THE POWER!!

Thank you all so much for participating and making this an absolute success!!!


The Dalida Remix (Brought To You By Yelbar) coming #bientot!



 
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My esteemed voters - let's start the REMIX Round of the Dalida Spotlight Rate in honour of Dalida being one of the most covered and remixed artists of all time!

A Youtube Playlist For You!

How this will work for those who want to take part out of us 14 voters:
- Select Up To 5 songs from the rate that you would amend your score for after living with the tracks a little longer since voting closed (many of you mentioned how much those tracks have grown on you since, this is your chance to reflect this) :

* Change your score for your five options up to 2 points since your original score (i.e - if you gave a score of 8 to a song, you can change it down to 6 and up to 10, decimals are fine)
* If you change your original 11, this means you are changing scores on two songs, so keep that in mind!
* We'll have a week to do this and I'll post the results next week!

Any Questions (or anything I've forgotten), please feel free to ask!

Let's get tagging!

@pop3blow2
@vague
@Riiiiiiiii
@Maki
@andymc35
 
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My esteemed voters - let's start the REMIX Round of the Dalida Spotlight Rate in honour of Dalida being one of the most covered and remixed artists of all time!

A Youtube Playlist For You!

How this will work for those who want to take part out of us 14 voters:
- Select Up To 5 songs from the rate that you would amend your score for after living with the tracks a little longer since voting closed (many of you mentioned how much those tracks have grown on you since, this is your chance to reflect this) :

* Change your score for your five options up to 2 points since your original score (i.e - if you gave a score of 8 to a song, you can change it down to 6 and up to 10, decimals are fine)
* If you change your original 11, this means you are changing scores on two songs, so keep that in mind!
* We'll have a week to do this and I'll post the results next week!

Any Questions (or anything I've forgotten), please feel free to ask!

Let's get tagging!

@Ana Raquel
@Sprockrooster
@Disco Blister
@soratami
@WowWowWowWow
 
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My esteemed voters - let's start the REMIX Round of the Dalida Spotlight Rate in honour of Dalida being one of the most covered and remixed artists of all time!

A Youtube Playlist For You!

How this will work for those who want to take part out of us 14 voters:
- Select Up To 5 songs from the rate that you would amend your score for after living with the tracks a little longer since voting closed (many of you mentioned how much those tracks have grown on you since, this is your chance to reflect this) :

* Change your score for your five options up to 2 points since your original score (i.e - if you gave a score of 8 to a song, you can change it down to 6 and up to 10, decimals are fine)
* If you change your original 11, this means you are changing scores on two songs, so keep that in mind!
* We'll have a week to do this and I'll post the results next week!

Any Questions (or anything I've forgotten), please feel free to ask!

Let's get tagging!

@əʊæ
@nnnumb
@Empty Shoebox
 

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