BIG POP GIRLS 2024

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10 x 5 (@citoig, @bad karma, @unnameable, @Dātura, @Subwaykid)

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2 x 2 (@Phloo, @cometomyparty), 2.25 x 2 (Nick, @UncleDeSeanAli)

How is a legacy defined? Is it in records of how many albums you have sold? Is it in how many stadiums you can sell-out? Is it in your influence, how many people you have inspired? These aren’t questions I often ask myself, mainly because I’m insignificant, but I can imagine for an artist like Taylor Swift, questions like these must be on your mind.

“Clara Bow” is about the lineage of legacy and how women in the music industry are often compared to one another and seen as a replacement whenever a “new” star emerges. When speaking about this song for Amazon Music, Taylor Swift said this about the song “Clara Bow”: ““I used to sit in record labels trying to get a record deal when I was a little kid. And they’d say, ‘You know, you remind us of’ and then they’d name an artist, and then they’d kind of say something disparaging about her, ‘But you’re this, you’re so much better in this way or that way.’ And that’s how we teach women to see themselves, as like, ‘You could be the new replacement for this woman who’s done something great before you.’”

This comparison is part of the ritual of becoming a new star; all it takes is one look at the respective threads of all the new inductees to the Big Pop Girls cannon. Take Chappell Roan as example – she immediately began drawing comparisons which led to several pages on the forum debating whether she was the “new” Lady Gaga or the “new” Katy Perry. At the start of her career, before these two albums that she claims are her only ones, Sabrina Carpenter drew similar comparisons to Ariana Grande. Similarly, Gracie Abrams quickly began being billed as the “new” Taylor Swift. Watch out Beyoncé, here comes Tinashe. You get the gist.

This “new” version of that artist is always presented as a threat to the already established star. “Why should we listen to Katy Perry when Chappell Roan is there?”. “Why should we bother with the new Taylor Swift record? Olivia Rodrigo is doing exactly the same thing!”. “Lady Gaga? She’s just a Madonna wannabe.” This is not a new thing whatsoever and it’s something that inarguably all women in the industry of a certain age have faced.

Lyrically, the song is made up of conversations – the pre-chorus being the perspective of the young female artist (in this case, Stevie Nicks and later, herself) with the verses, chorus and outros being from a nondescript man presumably working at a record label. The song has a really unique structure that establishes a distinct and interesting flow. There’s a dynamic between the two that I think sells this song, particularly with the pre-chorus, where Taylor truly sounds hungry for success and in the place of these young women where she once was.

“I'm not trying to exaggerate
But I think I might die if it happened
Die if it happened to me
No one in my small town
Thought I'd see the lights of Manhattan”


In “Clara Bow”, Taylor traces that lineage of ‘replacements’ to show her point – because she feels replaced as well. The song closes out with herself now becoming the point of reference for other artists.

"You look like Taylor Swift
In this light, we're lovin' it
You've got edge, she never did
The future's bright, dazzling"


She has written songs before about the music industry, about how women are constantly being pitted against one another in a negative light, and how women in the industry are seen as disposable past a certain age, but she has never done it this well.





 
Be real with yourselves. I've done enough of these massive rates to get a good idea of how the forum operates. I know the soul of it. If this was thirty tracks of uptempo electro-pop you would suspiciously not be finding the soundscape lacking in variety and be on your knees as Track 26 of the album left before a major single. And that is fine. We all know what the forum is like! So stop pretending otherwise.
Didn't the vast majority of the forum love "Folklore" and "evermore"? This just falls flat because it is so much, there is no editing and it's not a new trick she does here. I don't think it's about up-tempo-snorting-coke music being catnip to PJers.
 
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I feel like we've airbrushed the Tortured Poets DeApateu enough. Although there's still one song I've given a score under a 7, so we can move to filler from other albums.

Although I'm now super scared for my two 10s on the album
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Ugh, I think How Did It End? was my lowest score still left in the rate! Sorry girls, but it's not it. I know she thinks she nibbled a bit on This Woman's Work's nachos with those oh-ohs, but opening the song with "We hereby conduct this post mortem" and clutching her Oxford Thesaurus throughout the verses without saying a thing, and then that excuse of a climax... and the fact that it's all set to one of the blandest instrumentals she could dig out in a pile of voice memos that Ms. Desner had already deleted off her phone... I don't think I cringed that hard since the Wordsworth pun on the lakes. And I don't even cringe a lot! I love romanticism, sentimentalism, flowery phrases, The Sorrows of Young Werther, long strolls, sad dicks and daffodils, but "D-Y-I-N-G" still irks me with how self-serious and soppy it is. Bin it!

Clara Bow, on the other hand, is truly onto something. The chords in the verses are so somber, every single one is like a knife. The first time I heard it, it sent shivers down my spine. And the fact that she choses to end it with a verse instead of the chorus! Seeing a new "Taylor Swift" and admitting the edge that Taylor supposedly doesn't have... that's actually a wonderfully edgy twist! That is poetry! It could have sounded a bit fuller and benefited from less lazy writing in the bridge, but that twist alone is pulled off so well I really can't be mad with the final product.
 
I feel like we've airbrushed the Tortured Poets DeApateu enough. Although there's still one song I've given a score under a 7, so we can move to filler from other albums.

Although I'm now super scared for my two 10s on the album
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The "airbrushing" of this album is an entire discography of twelve years for other girls.
 
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The little string squeak after the first chorus is just gorgeously desolate, and the final verse... Whew, chills! Stunning, cinematic song. Should have been a single with an Alice in Movieland-inspired music video (one can only dream, okay). I fear I underscored it not expecting the bloodshed that would transpire so remind me to just give everything either a 10 or a 1 during the next rate if the forum and me even survive for that long
 
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Normally I'd be steam pressed about Taylor hemorrhaging songs but greedy is still in after people were calling for it in the first five eliminations and I can only hyperfixate on one leggy pop star at a time so it's going swell actually thanks!

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They say she has marbles in her mouth but the marbles are all over the keyboard pressing the "Private Session" button so they can stream the new Madonna while saving face

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