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It's time for our first cut from THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT. Is it the correct first out?

In all honesty, I’m exhausted about Taylor writing songs about Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. I think we all are. In fact, I’ll let you in on a little secret. This is one of the first songs I prepared a write-up for because I know this is going to be out very early (Author's Note: I, indeed, was correct). I just think there’s nothing more to explore about that incident – the topic already felt somewhat outdated back when reputation originally came out.

The large difference between this song to the rest of the Kim and Kanye digs is that this song paints Kim as one of Taylor's old high school bullies whose name has been changed to Aimee. Regardless of this switch, I still find the song to be largely boring and unnecessary for this album - it feels tonally out of place considering what most of this album is about.

I think, in part, that one of the big reasons as to why this was released comes down to the re-recordings project that Taylor is currently going through. One of the reasons is down to the vault and its success. It’s no surprise that after Red (Taylor’s Version) was a huge success for her with its massive track list, suddenly every album since then has been towering and chockfull of songs. I’m not mad about this in the slightest because I adore the deluge of content we are getting, but I do think it would’ve been somewhat beneficial for there to be more curation around the track list. What's even crazier (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault) is that I'm sure there's more material from this album in her hard drive.

The other reason why I think the re-recordings project has something to do with this song because it has her reminiscing about the past constantly. In the same way that “Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve” was clearly influenced by her re-recording Speak Now, I feel that this song comes from it being recorded while she is working on reputation (and self-titled). I think the connection with reputation and re-recording that album is fairly self-explanatory, but I do feel that this would make the most sense as to why she has returned to this topic again.

As for how this connects to her self-titled, the song title gives it away. In case it wasn’t blatantly obvious, in a weird throwback to Taylor’s old easter eggs that revealed who the song was about, “thanK You aiMee” is written this way to reveal that it was written about Kim. Later in the year, when she released the live version of this track to block Kanye West from the number one spot in the Billboard Hot 200, she changed the capitalisation of the track to say “thank You aimEe”. It’s petty, I guess.

Onto the good about this track, one of the big reasons I didn’t give this a much lower score comes from a couple of the lyrics which I think lift this song up significantly.

And maybe you've reframed it
And in your mind, you never beat my spirit black and blue
I don't think you've changed much
And so I changed your name and any real defining clues
And one day, your kid comes home singin'
A song that only us two is gonna know is about you


This verse somewhat justifies the existence of this song. Is it meant to throw us off the fact that this song is about Kim? Is it really not about her? I like that ambiguity and I think it elevates the song even if I think its themes, outside of who it was written by, feel tired.

Outside of the lyrics, I think the melody and the production is gorgeous on here - it's just a shame that the song can't be written about something more interesting like the rest of the album.



 
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Later in the year, when she released the live version of this track to block Kanye West from the number one spot in the Billboard Hot 200, she changed the capitalisation of the track to say “thank You aimEe”. It’s petty, I guess.
WAIT I never knew this. Scream.

I think "thanK you aIMee" is sound from a songcraft point of view. In fact if it wasn't for the capitalisation it would be a fairly fascinating insight into just how deep the psychological scars from the playground are for Taylor. But a simple grammar wink changes it to the sound of a bucket scraping the bottom of an empty well. Honestly Kim probably doesn't even remember her Taylor Swift beef.
 

Subwaykid

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The Andrea line made me yelp on first listen. RJF giving this a 7 might end up being the gag of the rate.

So, if @soratami was correct and this song isn't about Kim, then who is she singing about? I'm sure swifties have figured it out by now so educate me
I think the story is she was bullied through middle school/however long she was in high school, I believe mostly for pursuing a music career but could be wrong. I don’t know if the Swifties have gone so far as to dox her former classmates, but she’s likely pulling from those experiences.

Though some of her classmates who have sought out the press have said it was more like this nn.
 

aux

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So, if @soratami was correct and this song isn't about Kim, then who is she singing about? I'm sure swifties have figured it out by now so educate me
I think it is possible that it is partly inspired by an actual high school bully of hers - she's written lines alluding to being bullied in Fearless if memory serves me right. Knowing her, I wouldn't be surprised if there's an actual nemesis of hers called Amy and she just changed her name "Aimee" for funsies.

All that said, I think it's pretty obvious the song is about Kim and someone else from school by just reading the lyrics. I mean, the line "And one day, your kid comes home singin' / A song that only us two is gonna know is about you" is pretty much about that TikTok of Kim Kardashian and her daughter dancing to "Shake It Off" nn.
 

Solenciennes

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Where the song seems to force a sigh for most of the voters, I think it’s a scream and says so much about her bizarre attachment to Ice Spice as a means of getting another elbow in the ribs of “Aimee”, it stood out from the crowd of songs that all bleed into each other.
 
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It's time for our first cut from THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT. Is it the correct first out?

In all honesty, I’m exhausted about Taylor writing songs about Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. I think we all are. In fact, I’ll let you in on a little secret. This is one of the first songs I prepared a write-up for because I know this is going to be out very early (Author's Note: I, indeed, was correct). I just think there’s nothing more to explore about that incident – the topic already felt somewhat outdated back when reputation originally came out.

The large difference between this song to the rest of the Kim and Kanye digs is that this song paints Kim as one of Taylor's old high school bullies whose name has been changed to Aimee. Regardless of this switch, I still find the song to be largely boring and unnecessary for this album - it feels tonally out of place considering what most of this album is about.

I think, in part, that one of the big reasons as to why this was released comes down to the re-recordings project that Taylor is currently going through. One of the reasons is down to the vault and its success. It’s no surprise that after Red (Taylor’s Version) was a huge success for her with its massive track list, suddenly every album since then has been towering and chockfull of songs. I’m not mad about this in the slightest because I adore the deluge of content we are getting, but I do think it would’ve been somewhat beneficial for there to be more curation around the track list. What's even crazier (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault) is that I'm sure there's more material from this album in her hard drive.

The other reason why I think the re-recordings project has something to do with this song because it has her reminiscing about the past constantly. In the same way that “Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve” was clearly influenced by her re-recording Speak Now, I feel that this song comes from it being recorded while she is working on reputation (and self-titled). I think the connection with reputation and re-recording that album is fairly self-explanatory, but I do feel that this would make the most sense as to why she has returned to this topic again.

As for how this connects to her self-titled, the song title gives it away. In case it wasn’t blatantly obvious, in a weird throwback to Taylor’s old easter eggs that revealed who the song was about, “thanK You aiMee” is written this way to reveal that it was written about Kim. Later in the year, when she released the live version of this track to block Kanye West from the number one spot in the Billboard Hot 200, she changed the capitalisation of the track to say “thank You aimEe”. It’s petty, I guess.

Onto the good about this track, one of the big reasons I didn’t give this a much lower score comes from a couple of the lyrics which I think lift this song up significantly.

And maybe you've reframed it
And in your mind, you never beat my spirit black and blue
I don't think you've changed much
And so I changed your name and any real defining clues
And one day, your kid comes home singin'
A song that only us two is gonna know is about you


This verse somewhat justifies the existence of this song. Is it meant to throw us off the fact that this song is about Kim? Is it really not about her? I like that ambiguity and I think it elevates the song even if I think its themes, outside of who it was written by, feel tired.

Outside of the lyrics, I think the melody and the production is gorgeous on here - it's just a shame that the song can't be written about something more interesting like the rest of the album.




I gave this a 7 and didn't even realise it was meant to be about Kim...
 
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My lowest score on Tortured Poet's was a 6, of which I handed out a few, but this was one of them, so I'm not mad at it being a first out. @RJF hit the nail on the head, as a song it's actually perfectly fine and, in the context of half two, almost a welcome burst of energy, but the ~cute~ syntax choice trivializes the whole thing to stupidity that it's hard to even try to care about an age old beef with Kim K. And it's almost even more annoying if it's in fact not about Kim at all, because then why even bother? Nothing of value was lost.
 
Also, I was busy doing my elimination last night during Katy getting punched out (because I thought we were only kicking her out last night and had to come up with my elimination quick asdfghjkl) but both songs just criminally lacking. I think @citoig said it but there's a world where that weird slowed, sedated sample in "I'm His..." works for someone, but it's not here. Instead it just sounds like the track is dying, which is appropriate. "Lifetimes" is just a terminally underwritten mess.
 

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