❃ BoA - The Discography Rate (Part 1) ❃ - Final Stats

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BoA's success didn't happen in a vacuum, and while she can be credited for paving the way for Hallyu overseas, she didn't do it all by herself! Let's now take a look at the state of the K-Pop industry around the time of her debut.


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BoA with Andy and Junjin from Shinhwa, and Bada from S.E.S. (2000)


The 90s saw the emergence of the First Generation of K-Pop, pioneered by the group Seo Taiji and Boys. Most artists would initially only have success in Korea, and some of them went on to be the first stars of the Korean Wave. Among them, SM Entertainment ended up forming:

  • H.O.T in 1996. The boyband was recognized as the first K-Pop idol group, serving as a model for those that followed them. They were also the first K-Pop act to perform overseas.​



  • S.E.S. the following year, whose albums became best-sellers in Korea.​



  • Shinhwa, which was created in 1998 to capitalize on the two formers' successes. They remain the "longest running K-Pop boyband in history".​


  • M.I.L.K in 2001 through BM Entertainment, a subsidiary.​



SM acts were challenged by those from other agencies that debuted during the same period:


  • Baby V.O.X, formed in 1997 by DR Media, who later broke into the Chinese market.​



  • Fin.K.L in 1998 by DSP Media. Seen as a rival group to S.E.S., this girlgroup also put Lee Hyori on the map.​

  • Jewelry, formed by Star Media Empire in 2001. Over their fifteen years of existence, they branched out into the Japanese market while undergoing many line-up changes.​

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BoA ended up hanging out with her labelmates and even collaborating with them on special occasions such as the SM Town releases, which I'll get the opportunity to talk about later on during the eliminations.


Beforehand, SM had already made their first attempt at marketing one of their acts, S.E.S., towards the Japanese market. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. Not resting on their laurels after this flop, they decided to give it another try with their newly signed idol.


BoA debuted right on time for the start of the Second Generation of K-Pop when Hallyu, the Korean Wave, went into full effect. The term was first coined by the Chinese media in the late 1990s as they noticed the rise in global popularity in Korean pop-culture. It encompasses the increased interest in Korean Pop, Korean Dramas, and a rising number of Korean brands, like Samsung and Hyundai, getting more popular on the global scale.


At the time, the growing awareness of Korean entertainment in China and other countries in East Asia couldn't be ignored anymore. In Japan, this became visible when Swiri and Winter Sonata, the former a Korean film and the other a Korean drama, particularly started gaining massive followings.


In parallel, K-Pop was also garnering a lot of attention, allowing the commercial potential of the foreign market to be seriously taken into consideration. On November 2000, Avex signed a licensing deal with SM Entertainment, which meant both would market each other's releases in their own countries from now on. It was a big deal because this move set a precedent by breaking a political barrier that, up until that point, had persisted for decades. It signaled that Korea was getting ready to accept Japanese culture again.


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A news report from Billboard (2000)


But what is BoA's place in all of this?


Japan is the largest music market in Asia and the second largest in the world, so naturally, she had to adapt to a different culture. In comparison to her Korean career, slight differences in terms of sounds, visuals, and styling were noticeable. Even though she already had an appeal to this newfound audience, properly entering this market while not forgetting her roots was still the main goal, and the choice to re-record select songs in Japanese and other languages helped bridge that gap as well.


Following a string of successful singles in 2001, one year later, she released her Japanese debut album, LISTEN TO MY HEART, which topped the Oricon Chart and sold a million copies in Japan, making her the first Korean artist to do so. An interesting comparison to make is that, although she didn't blow up right away in Korea, the gradual moves made in her native country worked in her favour as her arrival in Japan was rewarded by a juggernaut success that seemed instant.


As told above, the latter came at a crucial time as South Korea had lifted its restrictions on Japanese cultural imports, a long-lasting consequence from World War II and more recently from the 1997 Asian financial crisis, that had prevented Japanese entertainment from reaching her homeland. As the relations between both countries softened, BoA got a few opportunities to mark the strengthening of Korean and Japanese's cultural ties by showing up at major cultural events.


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BoA with South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi at the Summit Dinner Party held by Koizumi himself in Tokyo (2003)


Afterwards, the Korean Wave got a second wind involving Rain, Wonder Girls, and once again BoA all eyeing the United States in the late 2000s. By then, it was common for K-Pop artists to adapt their songs towards the Western market, with an increased presence of English words in the lyrics, and videos that are strongly influenced by that culture.


Early in the following decade, as K-Pop continued to rise, Western mainstream attention was brought with Girls' Generation, 2NE1 and Big Bang among others leading the wave. PSY would be a key player with Gangnam Style getting viral and breaking record after record. This time, the development of social media, the omnipresence of YouTube and other video-sharing platforms, and the digital expansion of K-Pop helped spread the Hallyu Wave globally. At that point, what started as a niche for some was gathering fanbases everywhere.


Lee Soo-man himself would later be quoted as saying "If BoA wasn’t here, there would be no SM". With her subsequent success, it's fair to say she not only kept the agency afloat, but also contributed to furthering the Korean Wave and making K-Pop a global phenomenon, which today's acts are currently reaping the benefits from.​
 

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BoA's success didn't happen in a vacuum, and while she can be credited for paving the way for Hallyu overseas, she didn't do it all by herself! Let's now take a look at the state of the K-Pop industry around the time of her debut.


boa-shinhwa-SES.png

BoA with Andy and Junjin from Shinhwa, and Bada from S.E.S. (2000)


The 90s saw the emergence of the First Generation of K-Pop, pioneered by the group Seo Taiji and Boys. Most artists would initially only have success in Korea, and some of them went on to be the first stars of the Korean Wave. Among them, SM Entertainment ended up forming:

  • H.O.T in 1996. The boyband was recognized as the first K-Pop idol group, serving as a model for those that followed them. They were also the first K-Pop act to perform overseas.​



  • S.E.S. the following year, whose albums became best-sellers in Korea.​



  • Shinhwa, which was created in 1998 to capitalize on the two formers' successes. They remain the "longest running K-Pop boyband in history".​


  • M.I.L.K in 2001 through BM Entertainment, a subsidiary.​



SM acts were challenged by those from other agencies that debuted during the same period:


  • Baby V.O.X, formed in 1997 by DR Media, who later broke into the Chinese market.​



  • Fin.K.L in 1998 by DSP Media. Seen as a rival group to S.E.S., this girlgroup also put Lee Hyori on the map.​

  • Jewelry, formed by Star Media Empire in 2001. Over their fifteen years of existence, they branched out into the Japanese market while undergoing many line-up changes.​

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BoA ended up hanging out with her labelmates and even collaborating with them on special occasions such as the SM Town releases, which I'll get the opportunity to talk about later on during the eliminations.


Beforehand, SM had already made their first attempt at marketing one of their acts, S.E.S., towards the Japanese market. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. Not resting on their laurels after this flop, they decided to give it another try with their newly signed idol.


BoA debuted right on time for the start of the Second Generation of K-Pop when Hallyu, the Korean Wave, went into full effect. The term was first coined by the Chinese media in the late 1990s as they noticed the rise in global popularity in Korean pop-culture. It encompasses the increased interest in Korean Pop, Korean Dramas, and a rising number of Korean brands, like Samsung and Hyundai, getting more popular on the global scale.


At the time, the growing awareness of Korean entertainment in China and other countries in East Asia couldn't be ignored anymore. In Japan, this became visible when Swiri and Winter Sonata, the former a Korean film and the other a Korean drama, particularly started gaining massive followings.


In parallel, K-Pop was also garnering a lot of attention, allowing the commercial potential of the foreign market to be seriously taken into consideration. On November 2000, Avex signed a licensing deal with SM Entertainment, which meant both would market each other's releases in their own countries from now on. It was a big deal because this move set a precedent by breaking a political barrier that, up until that point, had persisted for decades. It signaled that Korea was getting ready to accept Japanese culture again.


kpop-hallyu-billboard.png


A news report from Billboard (2000)


But what is BoA's place in all of this?


Japan is the largest music market in Asia and the second largest in the world, so naturally, she had to adapt to a different culture. In comparison to her Korean career, slight differences in terms of sounds, visuals, and styling were noticeable. Even though she already had an appeal to this newfound audience, properly entering this market while not forgetting her roots was still the main goal, and the choice to re-record select songs in Japanese and other languages helped bridge that gap as well.


Following a string of successful singles in 2001, one year later, she released her Japanese debut album, LISTEN TO MY HEART, which topped the Oricon Chart and sold a million copies in Japan, making her the first Korean artist to do so. An interesting comparison to make is that, although she didn't blow up right away in Korea, the gradual moves made in her native country worked in her favour as her arrival in Japan was rewarded by a juggernaut success that seemed instant.


As told above, the latter came at a crucial time as South Korea had lifted its restrictions on Japanese cultural imports, a long-lasting consequence from World War II and more recently from the 1997 Asian financial crisis, that had prevented Japanese entertainment from reaching her homeland. As the relations between both countries softened, BoA got a few opportunities to mark the strengthening of Korean and Japanese's cultural ties by showing up at major cultural events.


boa-summit-2003.gif

BoA with South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi at the Summit Dinner Party held by Koizumi himself in Tokyo (2003)


Afterwards, the Korean Wave got a second wind involving Rain, Wonder Girls, and once again BoA all eyeing the United States in the late 2000s. By then, it was common for K-Pop artists to adapt their songs towards the Western market, with an increased presence of English words in the lyrics, and videos that are strongly influenced by that culture.


Early in the following decade, as K-Pop continued to rise, Western mainstream attention was brought with Girls' Generation, 2NE1 and Big Bang among others leading the wave. PSY would be a key player with Gangnam Style getting viral and breaking record after record. This time, the development of social media, the omnipresence of YouTube and other video-sharing platforms, and the digital expansion of K-Pop helped spread the Hallyu Wave globally. At that point, what started as a niche for some was gathering fanbases everywhere.


Lee Soo-man himself would later be quoted as saying "If BoA wasn’t here, there would be no SM". With her subsequent success, it's fair to say she not only kept the agency afloat, but also contributed to furthering the Korean Wave and making K-Pop a global phenomenon, which today's acts are currently reaping the benefits from.​

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by @RUNAWAY

Jumping Into The World
2001.03.06



Don't start now
AGAIN
DESTINY
Love letter
Love hurts
POWER* (Listen To My Heart Version)
Let U go
Don't Start Now (English Version)
ID; Peace B (English Version)
사라 (SARA) (English Version)
Dreams come true* (Listen To My Heart Version)
비밀일기 (I'm Sorry) (Chinese Version)
ID; Peace B (Chinese Version)
사라 (SARA) (Chinese Version)




Sales: 104,000 (Korea and Japan)


Chart position: #6 on Korean charts and #29 on Oricon in Japan (according to Wikipedia. These figures are so old, the official Oricon website doesn’t even have them anymore)


Jumping Into The World (aka Don’t Start Now in Korea) is a ”special” album by BoA (referred to as album 1.5 officially), and was released on March 6th, 2001 in Korea and on May 29th, 2002 in Japan.


This is definitely…..an album that exists.


I’ve decided to just go full shade for this review, as this album makes absolutely no sense in her discography. Why not just release the new tracks as a mini or something? Filling it out with cute (but unnecessary) alternate language versions of songs wasn’t really necessary. The English version of Don’t start now is interesting, that’s for sure, but it’s the only one I have any desire to go back to.


Starting from the beginning, Don’t start now (the only true bop on the album) is the first track here. It’s a total jam, and Dua Lipa was found somewhere wigless and inspired. It’s very of its time, and sounds like it came straight out of 2001, but the producers of the day weren’t exactly focused on making something sound timeless. That’s not a bad thing I guess, as I still love the song. The second track AGAIN (damn ma is it that serious?) is a pleasant enough mid-tempo that I sometimes come back to. DESTINY is the third track here, another mid-tempo, but this one is way more basic than the last one. Also, this song is not to be confused with 기적 (Destiny) from the “special” album Miracle. That song is a Korean version of her Japanese single 奇蹟 (Kiseki/Miracle) and whew that’s a much better song ddddddd.


Coincidentally, the 4th track here Love letter is also not to be confused with her Japanese single of the same name that came out in 2007 (and again, that song is MUCH better.) I do really like this song, and it’s definitely one of the better tracks from this collection. Love hurts, the 5th track here is another R&B-flavored 2000’s style pop song. It’s definitely boppable, but ultimately sort of forgettable. Moving on.


The sixth track here POWER is…..really something. The opening has the rapper stating “we gon’ fuck like this”....on a 13 year old BoA’s song. This song is such a cringy mess, and for a song that’s only 3:05, it sure takes a long time to actually get somewhere. The song was re-recorded in Japanese for her first album LISTEN TO MY HEART, and was completely re-done. The Japanese version is a whole minute longer, doesn’t feature the cringy rap, and is ultimately much stronger. Y’all can just pass on this one honestly.


The seventh track here, Let U go is boring. I have literally nothing to say about it. Tracks 8, 9, and 10 are English versions of Don’t start now, ID; Peace B, and SARA and….they exist I guess. The English and Korean versions of Don’t start now were later featured on BoA’s Japanese single of the same name (which is kind of overkill, but okay werk). ID; Peace B’s English version is really something...the less said about it, the better. SARA’s English version is actually a bop, and I really love it, but I also love the original version too. Let’s just move on.


Dreams come true is the eleventh track here, and is the last original song. It was later covered in Japanese for LISTEN TO MY HEART, and it’s kind of a jam. It’s another teen pop song that has aged terribly, but it kind of goes off. (Crispy's Note: It may be of its time but it's probably still my favorite song, to be honest!)

And I don’t feel like writing anything about the 3 Chinese versions of I’m Sorry, ID; Peace B, and SARA featured as the last 3 tracks here, so that’s where this review ends.


This album is a relic of its time, and is honestly best left in 2001 where it came from. Her other “special” albums Miracle and Shine We Are are much more solid, and easily top this album many times over. This album is an uneven mess, and we’re better off not talking about it……. (Crispy's Note: Okay, maybe @RUNAWAY went in just a lil' bit)




(Crispy's Note: What are your thoughts on the album everyone? For those that weren't familiar with this release, any favorites among the new songs? Discuss!)
 
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Don’t Start Now/Jumping into the world is an intriguing release simply because BoA’s career was still so raw at the time, and the landscape of music was so different.

Korean singles, mini albums, and EPs simply weren’t the same as we know them today. So we got what feels like an EP of new tracks and then a few multiple language versions.

Ultimately it feels like the same quality as ID peace B the album, but with the strangeness of it not being a proper album. I can’t imagine what it was like to be a BoA fan in Korea at the time and encounter this release. I remember I started listening to BoA in 2003, and when I would go back I kind of ignored all her .5 Korean albums, but I really noticed jumping into the world felt a worlds away in terms of quality and even BoA growing into her voice/sound/artistry.

Ultimately I appreciate the album for really being the last remnants before BoA would catapult into a new stratosphere of success AND music quality. But on my rate thus far it includes some of my lowest scores.
 
Don't Start Now is definitely... not strong. The only songs worth going back to were the ones that were vastly improved on LISTEN TO MY HEART, so I rated those songs based on the versions on that record. Truthfully though i've never really invested much time on her special records, they always felt like filler to me.
 
Hi, @Crisp X, I'm not sure I'll be able to participate in this rate given the vast amount of new content for me... but I want to pay my respects to the queen of kpop, so I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to familiarize myself with her output! And I wanted to thank you and @RUNAWAY for your writeups and playlists that make it accessible for a new listener like me to get into her music (she just has so many songs, in so many different languages that it was hard for me to dive into her discography the one time I actually tried to do it).

I've only listened to the first two albums so far (the debut already three times) and I can barely remember any song but the singles kii. But I'm glad that I'm not the only one, judging by @RUNAWAY's writeup. Hoping the next few albums will make this whole journey worthwhile!
 

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Hi, @Crisp X, I'm not sure I'll be able to participate in this rate given the vast amount of new content for me... but I want to pay my respects to the queen of kpop, so I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to familiarize myself with her output! And I wanted to thank you and @RUNAWAY for your writeups and playlists that make it accessible for a new listener like me to get into her music (she just has so many songs, in so many different languages that it was hard for me to dive into her discography the one time I actually tried to do it).

I've only listened to the first two albums so far (the debut already three times) and I can barely remember any song but the singles kii. But I'm glad that I'm not the only one, judging by @RUNAWAY's writeup. Hoping the next few albums will make this whole journey worthwhile!

I'm sure there will be an extension, and you're definitely not alone with the first two albums. I really like a lot of album tracks from NO.1, so I really hope you were referring to Jumping into the World as album number two. Her discography became a lot more solid when she got settled in Japan, so I really hope you can continue on!
 
I'm sure there will be an extension, and you're definitely not alone with the first two albums. I really like a lot of album tracks from NO.1, so I really hope you were referring to Jumping into the World as album number two. Her discography became a lot more solid when she got settled in Japan, so I really hope you can continue on!

Yes, I was referring to Don't Start Now/Jumping Into the World as the second album. I've gotten used to considering EP-length albums as actual albums because otherwise I get depressed that there are so few full-length studio albums by most kpop artists haha.

And an extension would probably help me a lot! First I should find out an album of hers I can stan though, otherwise I'd just be a rate villain if I participate xD

Also, random question, but why does she have an asterisk next to her name in the first two album covers?
 
The way BoA’s Korean and Japanese releases have played off of each other has been really interesting.

I find that the resources at Avex, Japan being the bigger industry at the time, and the landscape of music at the time made for her early Japanese music to be a lot more interesting with unique takes on certain sounds. Hence why we had entire early songs re-recorded in Korean.

I don’t think it was until My Name and Girls on Top that things started to even out in terms of quality. And then by the 2010s there was an interesting shift where the Korean music was the more interesting body of work, and us fans are here like dang her Japanese releases could use some of that juice. (But at this point I’m happier if she keeps riding the k-pop wave. Vocally she has always been more comfortable and a little bit less restrained in her Korean music)
 
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