Never Really Over is excellent but it's very...cute next to gorgeous when measured against Don't Start Now.
BPG 2019 - THE END
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He/Him
Pretty much oof.
It's not a horrible album. It's extremely lower tier though.
she/her
I think everyone got carried away a bitsy by Katy putting out a good song after the whole Witness ordeal but a great song it is not.
I also think I overscored it and wish I hadn't.
I also think I overscored it and wish I hadn't.
He/Him
This "Never Really Over isn't amazing" narrative is getting very frustrating.
Do you mean like how everyone got carried away by Dua putting out a good performance sksksk
Well Dua's performing skills indeed only got better while Katy followed NRO with Small Talk, Harley's and this tepid wedding song she's promoting now. A fluke!
Harleys is a bop, thot.
Two terrific bops and a song about finding personal happiness after 12 years of providing me with so much, in the form of her decade-defining sound and record-breaking success? I'll allow it! Bon appetit baby!
Now THAT's a terrific bop.
Also everyone who acts like Witness was irredeemable when it gave us the greatest song of all time? Eat Glass (ft. Migos)
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SCORE: 9.341
11 x 21 (@Joe., @citoig, @Phloo, @Laura Vanderbooben, @Jwentz, @AlmightyAloud, @Verandi, @matthew., @Fuchsia, @boombazookajoe, @Hurricane Drunk, @inevitable, @Lindsay Lohan, @Robsolete, @Weslicious, @Serg., @Lost Boy, @tylerc904, @Butterfly, @Guy, @LA Hallucinations)
HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 39 (@Music Is Life, @ufint, @AllGagaLike, @aux, @UncleDeSeanAli, @allyshone, @2014, @Blond, @sexercise, @happiestgirl, @ohnostalgia, @GimmeWork, @BeingNormal, @rdp, @Trouble in Paradise, @soratami, @joe_alouder, @Petty Mayonnaise, @AdzBrown, @djmakemewet, @Conan, @Aester, @Seventeen Days, @Bolton, @aaronhansome, @Solenciennes, @sapnu puas, @Petit nain des Îles, @savilizabeths, @Mr Blonde, @Remorque, @that boy is a monster, @Trinu 3.0, @K94, @Subwaykid, @reputation., @Laurence, @Rem, @Sail On)
LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 1 (@Phonetics Boy)
I had this idea of rewriting the lyrics to this as a write-up, and I even started on it, but after the recent posts referring to one of the best pop songs of the decade "cute" and @Gabeee9292 calling Katy's career a "fluke" I decided you all don't deserve my brilliance or my time, nor Katy's for that matter! So fuck off and just give me likes.
...
I already eulogized this song in the Forum Poll, which it deservedly won, but I'll try to say something different here. Katy Perry has been, in many ways, a celebrity avatar for me. We had similar upbringings yeah yeah everyone knows that by now, but it does follow you. Being poorly educated for half my life and sheltered for more of it has followed me, just as it has followed Katy. We don't know what we don't know until we get shamed for it - yes, this happens to everyone at some point or another, but when it's for things that literally everyone else knows it comes with a nice extra heaping of scorn and humiliation. To see Katy go from where she started to what she achieved was inspiring for me, and it's a major reason why I felt empowered enough to pursue my professional dreams, instead of writing them off as unrealistic because I knew, at some point, my family would not be supportive of them. (I was actually wrong about this, which was a lovely surprise).
But personally, she's struggled a lot, and publicly. Those bottoms-up-and-the-devil-laughs parents of hers. That tragic taste in men. Dr. Luke. And after a record where the wheels came off, where she opted not to work with her most reliable collaborator because she believed women over him, where she chopped off her hair and was pilloried for it in ways I'm sure not even she could have anticipated, she came back with this song: jubilant, buoyant, hopeful, and above all, GOOD. She's never sounded better on record, and she showed that she still has the ability to put out a song that makes the world move.
Look, I know Katy Perry is fine. She's a gajillionaire, it's cool. But to see her leap above all that bullshit that was thrown her way and find a man who loves her (presumably) and have a baby on her time, when she wants it...that inspires me too. And I'm grateful she put all the celebration into this song. For me. As a treat.
Lotta commentary here, gals. Because fun fact: this has the most 11s in the rate. I'm glad some of you will manage to avoid my ignore list! I might even take @matthew. off of it!
@Joe.: "The vastly different verses, chorus and the middle 8 each being irresistibly infectious in their own way, but still weaving together in a neat little bow is what makes 'Never Really Over' so addictive. The 'TWO YEARS AND JUST LIKE THAT…' Is your classic, Teenage Dream scream out of your car window Katy Perry, and the speedy Justbecauseitsoverdoesntmeanitsreallyover...' is the extra little spark of magic that gives the track a new and modern twinkle. I know, it's a pretty well-loved song in these parts, but just how clever the song is goes unnoticed sometimes, the different uses of the word "Over" on the chorus are genius: Just because it's over [finished] doesn't mean it's really over [finished] And if I think it over [think it through], maybe you'll be coming over [around] again And I'll have to get over [forget/get past] you all over again [From the beginning]. 5 different uses of the word over in 8 seconds. Her mind!" A songwriter! We have to stan.
@Verandi: "Miss Hudson takes my 11 because, well, there's not really competition here anyway. Who would have thought, after the dumpster fire of Witness, that Katy could be so pop-smart to 'comeback' with a song that basically said 'fuck chorus-less songs' lives'? With a song that doesn't lazily rely on trap tropes? With a song that samples one of the best scandibops of the decade? With a pre-chorus like that? With a chorus LIKE THAT? I love it like that, I love it like that. For a few weeks, we really thought we were in for a redemption album, the album good ol' Katy was meant to make since she appeared on the charts; instead we got... those two other songs but it doesn't matter, Katy delivered the little pop miracle of 2019 while newfound friends were declaring that spelling is fun and shade doesn't make anybody less gay. I can confirm that Never Really Over made me, indeed, a lil more gay than what I already was. Thanks Katy."
@matthew., short and sweet: "Not only is it the best song in the rate, it's the best song of all of 2019."
@Weslicious, likewise: "Thanks to the repeat button it truly can never be over, if you so wish. Which I do, so it get's my 11."
@Butterfly: "Pop perfection, possibly the best song of her career."
SCORE: 9.341
11 x 21 (@Joe., @citoig, @Phloo, @Laura Vanderbooben, @Jwentz, @AlmightyAloud, @Verandi, @matthew., @Fuchsia, @boombazookajoe, @Hurricane Drunk, @inevitable, @Lindsay Lohan, @Robsolete, @Weslicious, @Serg., @Lost Boy, @tylerc904, @Butterfly, @Guy, @LA Hallucinations)
HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 39 (@Music Is Life, @ufint, @AllGagaLike, @aux, @UncleDeSeanAli, @allyshone, @2014, @Blond, @sexercise, @happiestgirl, @ohnostalgia, @GimmeWork, @BeingNormal, @rdp, @Trouble in Paradise, @soratami, @joe_alouder, @Petty Mayonnaise, @AdzBrown, @djmakemewet, @Conan, @Aester, @Seventeen Days, @Bolton, @aaronhansome, @Solenciennes, @sapnu puas, @Petit nain des Îles, @savilizabeths, @Mr Blonde, @Remorque, @that boy is a monster, @Trinu 3.0, @K94, @Subwaykid, @reputation., @Laurence, @Rem, @Sail On)
LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 1 (@Phonetics Boy)
I had this idea of rewriting the lyrics to this as a write-up, and I even started on it, but after the recent posts referring to one of the best pop songs of the decade "cute" and @Gabeee9292 calling Katy's career a "fluke" I decided you all don't deserve my brilliance or my time, nor Katy's for that matter! So fuck off and just give me likes.
...
I already eulogized this song in the Forum Poll, which it deservedly won, but I'll try to say something different here. Katy Perry has been, in many ways, a celebrity avatar for me. We had similar upbringings yeah yeah everyone knows that by now, but it does follow you. Being poorly educated for half my life and sheltered for more of it has followed me, just as it has followed Katy. We don't know what we don't know until we get shamed for it - yes, this happens to everyone at some point or another, but when it's for things that literally everyone else knows it comes with a nice extra heaping of scorn and humiliation. To see Katy go from where she started to what she achieved was inspiring for me, and it's a major reason why I felt empowered enough to pursue my professional dreams, instead of writing them off as unrealistic because I knew, at some point, my family would not be supportive of them. (I was actually wrong about this, which was a lovely surprise).
But personally, she's struggled a lot, and publicly. Those bottoms-up-and-the-devil-laughs parents of hers. That tragic taste in men. Dr. Luke. And after a record where the wheels came off, where she opted not to work with her most reliable collaborator because she believed women over him, where she chopped off her hair and was pilloried for it in ways I'm sure not even she could have anticipated, she came back with this song: jubilant, buoyant, hopeful, and above all, GOOD. She's never sounded better on record, and she showed that she still has the ability to put out a song that makes the world move.
Look, I know Katy Perry is fine. She's a gajillionaire, it's cool. But to see her leap above all that bullshit that was thrown her way and find a man who loves her (presumably) and have a baby on her time, when she wants it...that inspires me too. And I'm grateful she put all the celebration into this song. For me. As a treat.
Lotta commentary here, gals. Because fun fact: this has the most 11s in the rate. I'm glad some of you will manage to avoid my ignore list! I might even take @matthew. off of it!
@Joe.: "The vastly different verses, chorus and the middle 8 each being irresistibly infectious in their own way, but still weaving together in a neat little bow is what makes 'Never Really Over' so addictive. The 'TWO YEARS AND JUST LIKE THAT…' Is your classic, Teenage Dream scream out of your car window Katy Perry, and the speedy Justbecauseitsoverdoesntmeanitsreallyover...' is the extra little spark of magic that gives the track a new and modern twinkle. I know, it's a pretty well-loved song in these parts, but just how clever the song is goes unnoticed sometimes, the different uses of the word "Over" on the chorus are genius: Just because it's over [finished] doesn't mean it's really over [finished] And if I think it over [think it through], maybe you'll be coming over [around] again And I'll have to get over [forget/get past] you all over again [From the beginning]. 5 different uses of the word over in 8 seconds. Her mind!" A songwriter! We have to stan.
@Verandi: "Miss Hudson takes my 11 because, well, there's not really competition here anyway. Who would have thought, after the dumpster fire of Witness, that Katy could be so pop-smart to 'comeback' with a song that basically said 'fuck chorus-less songs' lives'? With a song that doesn't lazily rely on trap tropes? With a song that samples one of the best scandibops of the decade? With a pre-chorus like that? With a chorus LIKE THAT? I love it like that, I love it like that. For a few weeks, we really thought we were in for a redemption album, the album good ol' Katy was meant to make since she appeared on the charts; instead we got... those two other songs but it doesn't matter, Katy delivered the little pop miracle of 2019 while newfound friends were declaring that spelling is fun and shade doesn't make anybody less gay. I can confirm that Never Really Over made me, indeed, a lil more gay than what I already was. Thanks Katy."
@matthew., short and sweet: "Not only is it the best song in the rate, it's the best song of all of 2019."
@Weslicious, likewise: "Thanks to the repeat button it truly can never be over, if you so wish. Which I do, so it get's my 11."
@Butterfly: "Pop perfection, possibly the best song of her career."
My boo thang, @Phloo: "Watching Katy's play-dough kingdom dry up and crumble over the last three years has been weirdly disheartening as a pop fan. It almost signaled a final shift away from a millennial reign of pop culture. I've always enjoyed Katy's wink wink nudge nudge schtick at an arms length and for a few months (dd) in 2019 i was happy to see it tamed into something more nuanced without compromising the fun. This propulsive, rainbow fueled slam dunk of a pop song is probably my favorite of hers and even though Dont Start Now MIGHT BE the better song i'd get a wee kii out of seeing Katy conquer all the other ghouls!"
And the little-seen but often-appreciated @LA Hallucinations: "I love it when a chorus beats me up and then the post-chorus finishes things up and takes my worthless life <3"
And the little-seen but often-appreciated @LA Hallucinations: "I love it when a chorus beats me up and then the post-chorus finishes things up and takes my worthless life <3"
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NEVER REALLY OVER:
Joe. 11
citoig 11
Phloo 11
Laura Vanderbooben 11
Jwentz 11
AlmightyAloud
11
Verandi 11
matthew. 11
Fuchsia 11
boombazookajoe 11
Hurricane Drunk 11
inevitable 11
Lindsay Lohan 11
Robsolete 11
Weslicious 11
Serg. 11
Lost Boy 11
tylerc904 11
Butterfly 11
Guy 11
LA Hallucinations 11
Music Is Life 10
ufint 10
AllGagaLike 10
aux 10
UncleDeSeanAli 10
allyshone 10
2014 10
Blond 10
sexercise 10
happiestgirl 10
ohnostalgia 10
GimmeWork 10
BeingNormal 10
rdp 10
Trouble In Paradise 10
soratami 10
joe_alouder 10
Petty Mayonnaise 10
AdzBrown 10
djmakemewet 10
Conan 10
Aester 10
Seventeen Days 10
Bolton 10
aaronhansome 10
Solenciennes 10
sapnu puas 10
Petit nain des Îles 10
savilizabeths 10
Mr Blonde 10
Remorque 10
that boy is a monster 10
Trinu 3.0 10
K94 10
Subwaykid 10
reputation. 10
Laurence 10
Rem 10
Sail On 10
ACTUALLY OVER:
Jonathan27 9.5
OspreyQueen 9.5
R27 9.5
eccentricsimply 9
DJHazey 9
Ana Raquel 9
klow 9
Cutlery 9
sesita 9
pop3blow2 9
Gabeee9292 9
Jacques 9
eliminathan 9
BTG 9
evilsin 9
KingBruno 9
EnsnareTheSenses 9
japanbonustrack 9
RJF 8.5
strangekin 8.5
dylanaber 8.5
theelusivechanteuse 8.5
Ashling92 8.5
RainOnFire 8.5
Mirwais Ahmadzaï 8.5
BEST FICTION 8.5
MrMannacroix 8.5
PushyBakerFriend 8.5
Dangerous Maknae 8
maverick_79 8
Sanctuary 8
Vitamin 8
Slice of Life 8
Babyface 8
Mushroom 8
Bangers&Bops 8
myblood 8
askew 8
Diet Pop! 8
constantino 7.5
godspeed 7.5
Epic Chocolat 7.5
CorgiCorgiCorgi 7
Dijah. 7
funkyg 7
RMK 7
BeautifulChild2 6.5
Sprockrooster 6
TéléDex 5
Phonetics Boy 2
Joe. 11
citoig 11
Phloo 11
Laura Vanderbooben 11
Jwentz 11
AlmightyAloud
11
Verandi 11
matthew. 11
Fuchsia 11
boombazookajoe 11
Hurricane Drunk 11
inevitable 11
Lindsay Lohan 11
Robsolete 11
Weslicious 11
Serg. 11
Lost Boy 11
tylerc904 11
Butterfly 11
Guy 11
LA Hallucinations 11
Music Is Life 10
ufint 10
AllGagaLike 10
aux 10
UncleDeSeanAli 10
allyshone 10
2014 10
Blond 10
sexercise 10
happiestgirl 10
ohnostalgia 10
GimmeWork 10
BeingNormal 10
rdp 10
Trouble In Paradise 10
soratami 10
joe_alouder 10
Petty Mayonnaise 10
AdzBrown 10
djmakemewet 10
Conan 10
Aester 10
Seventeen Days 10
Bolton 10
aaronhansome 10
Solenciennes 10
sapnu puas 10
Petit nain des Îles 10
savilizabeths 10
Mr Blonde 10
Remorque 10
that boy is a monster 10
Trinu 3.0 10
K94 10
Subwaykid 10
reputation. 10
Laurence 10
Rem 10
Sail On 10
ACTUALLY OVER:
Jonathan27 9.5
OspreyQueen 9.5
R27 9.5
eccentricsimply 9
DJHazey 9
Ana Raquel 9
klow 9
Cutlery 9
sesita 9
pop3blow2 9
Gabeee9292 9
Jacques 9
eliminathan 9
BTG 9
evilsin 9
KingBruno 9
EnsnareTheSenses 9
japanbonustrack 9
RJF 8.5
strangekin 8.5
dylanaber 8.5
theelusivechanteuse 8.5
Ashling92 8.5
RainOnFire 8.5
Mirwais Ahmadzaï 8.5
BEST FICTION 8.5
MrMannacroix 8.5
PushyBakerFriend 8.5
Dangerous Maknae 8
maverick_79 8
Sanctuary 8
Vitamin 8
Slice of Life 8
Babyface 8
Mushroom 8
Bangers&Bops 8
myblood 8
askew 8
Diet Pop! 8
constantino 7.5
godspeed 7.5
Epic Chocolat 7.5
CorgiCorgiCorgi 7
Dijah. 7
funkyg 7
RMK 7
BeautifulChild2 6.5
Sprockrooster 6
TéléDex 5
Phonetics Boy 2
