BPG 2019 - THE END

I just always viewed the lyrics for 'The Man' as tounge-in-cheek. Like she's not saying she wants to be a literal man, but the ambiguously praised/hated person in charge. That in & of itself is a challenge to approach lyrically.. as the phrase 'the man' has both been used both as a compliment & a derogatory sentiment at different times in culture.

"The phrase "the Man is keeping me down" is commonly used to describe oppression. The phrase "stick it to the Man" encourages resistance to authority, and essentially means "fight back" or "resist", either passively, openly or via sabotage"

Like, she knows that the phrase is loaded, though. I think the lyrics speak specifically to this dichotomy.

"I’d be a fearless leader
I'd be an alpha type
When everyone believes ya
What's that like?


I'd even argue she addresses & realizes some of her financial privilege in the song.

I do find the song's message messy, but ultimately well-intentioned & clever. Maybe it is actually too clever for it's own good, thus adding to its issues in communicating its message. I think Taylor was trying to 'stick it to the man' in a certain way with the song (by wanting a woman to be 'the man'), but obviously her message doesn't land for many. I do think song is a bit more complex than many are giving it credit for, though.

That said, it's still not a fave for me on Lover, so I gave it like an 8. Personally, though, I am happy Taylor is trying to approach some of these topics & use her voice. I'll take messy communication of bigger ideas over silence in important era of change any day. At least it generates some thought & discussion. She's one of most important woman in pop, so I'm happy to have her speaking up in any capacity on issues that are important to me.

I guess in some respects 'The Man' reminds of another messy song.. one I don't particularly like, but that was possibly creative & cleverly well intentioned : '7 Rings' (another controversial BPG rate bomb). Some people take the song/video completely at face value & hate its message. Others have the mindset that Ariana was being tongue & cheek about the over-the-top emptiness of consumer culture.

Maybe Ariana & Taylor both fail at their messaging in these mentioned songs & deserve all the draggings & criticism levied at them. For me though, I think their both two of the most creative & smartest people in pop, so maybe there is more layers to their art that I miss on my first pass throughs of their latest bop.

edit: (Sorry, I just saw #42 revealed... so this write-up is a bit out date now. Oops.)
 

Subwaykid

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Of course y’all depressed hoes would knock this out early

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Is there anything wrong with them? Just asking because I'm unfamiliar with the podcast.
Almost forgot to respond to this nn. I'm not necessarily a fan of Jezebel, but this kinda encapsulates it for me. Dasha's Sailor Socialist moment was a bitsy iconic, but I actually think they're awful people masquerading as biting or interesting. In reality, they're really nothing new and don't say anything of substance either. The problem is art and media folks and the sort of urban intelligentsia lap them up in, imo, a really sad need to feel 1) smart, 2) ironic, 3) different, or 4) like they're doing something.

Basically, dead air/dead weight and annoying imo. Also, my friend and her boyfriend know them (they've been living in Brooklyn during the same period and are active in socialist circles or whatever) and can't stand them, and I trust their opinions.
 
"I Think He Knows" is Taylor at her most Carly-aping for me. That chorus and middle-eight are pure Jepsen. It's good (I gave it a 7.5 so don't come for me), but I also think Taylor has a truck full of these songs at this point and novelty's worn off. Kind of the problem with the whole album.
 
I just always viewed the lyrics for 'The Man' as tounge-in-cheek. Like she's not saying she wants to be a literal man, but the ambiguously praised/hated person in charge. That in & of itself is a challenge to approach lyrically.. as the phrase 'the man' has both been used both as a compliment & a derogatory sentiment at different times in culture.

"The phrase "the Man is keeping me down" is commonly used to describe oppression. The phrase "stick it to the Man" encourages resistance to authority, and essentially means "fight back" or "resist", either passively, openly or via sabotage"

Like, she knows that the phrase is loaded, though. I think the lyrics speak specifically to this dichotomy.

"I’d be a fearless leader
I'd be an alpha type
When everyone believes ya
What's that like?


I'd even argue she addresses & realizes some of her financial privilege in the song.

I do find the song's message messy, but ultimately well-intentioned & clever. Maybe it is actually too clever for it's own good, thus adding to its issues in communicating its message. I think Taylor was trying to 'stick it to the man' in a certain way with the song (by wanting a woman to be 'the man'), but obviously her message doesn't land for many. I do think song is a bit more complex than many are giving it credit for, though.

That said, it's still not a fave for me on Lover, so I gave it like an 8. Personally, though, I am happy Taylor is trying to approach some of these topics & use her voice. I'll take messy communication of bigger ideas over silence in important era of change any day. At least it generates some thought & discussion. She's one of most important woman in pop, so I'm happy to have her speaking up in any capacity on issues that are important to me.

I guess in some respects 'The Man' reminds of another messy song.. one I don't particularly like, but that was possibly creative & cleverly well intentioned : '7 Rings' (another controversial BPG rate bomb). Some people take the song/video completely at face value & hate its message. Others have the mindset that Ariana was being tongue & cheek about the over-the-top emptiness of consumer culture.

Maybe Ariana & Taylor both fail at their messaging in these mentioned songs & deserve all the draggings & criticism levied at them. For me though, I think their both two of the most creative & smartest people in pop, so maybe there is more layers to their art that I miss on my first pass throughs of their latest bop.

edit: (Sorry, I just saw #42 revealed... so this write-up is a bit out date now. Oops.)

That's how I interpreted it, too - I thought it was a Blank Space-style self-aware take. If you take the lyrics at face value, I can see why people didn't like it!

Unreliable narrator aside, it really is a well-produced song, and the instrumental is so catchy.
 
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SCORE: 6.882


HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 11 (@savilizabeths, @Weslicious, @Subwaykid, @tylerc904, @Music Is Life, @aux, @sexercise, @GimmeWork, @Petty Mayonnaise, @matthew., @Jonathan27)
LOWEST SCORE: 1 x 1 (@Phonetics Boy), 3 x 3 (@Solenciennes, @Laurence, @Beautiful Child 2)
MY SCORE: 7.5/10

For some reason the title of this had me expecting a reflective song about cheating on a boyfriend and knowing that you didn't get away with it, but as if Taylor would go there. Instead we got this bouncy little number serving 'How You Get the Girl' teas. I like the chorus of this one, and that revved-up pre chorus is fun too, but the verses plod a bit and the lyrics ain't all that. As is the case on almost this entire record, Taylor has done it in the past, but better. Honestly sis, take like three SOLID years off and spend them doing more than just staring at Joe while he sleeps, and I think it will serve you a world of good creatively.



Okay, what the fuck? This is an epic bop! The verses glide along so smoothly before launching into that breathy, sensual chorus, that's so lighthearted you're practically floating! And the bridge! "Where we gonna go? I think he knoooowssss!" It's perfection! In what world is this a 1, or a 3?
 
she/her
I feel like Taylor definitely doesn’t deserve any more cuts for a while cause the rest of the album is brilliant; but I Think He Knows is my lowest score left and it got a decent average so I’m not too mad.

Calling for Lover and Imagine to go though? What is WRONG with y’all.
 

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