Camila Cabello - C,XOXO

I was gonna ask why we hate her, please elaborate.
I think a lot of the negativity towards her points back to the fact that she posted some very problematic, racist and idiotic statements on her Tumblr back in 2012, it all came out around the release of her album Romance in 2019. She’s since apologised and went to racial learning classes organised by racial equity groups, but people are allowed to still be upset by it.
 
I really loved Don’t Go Yet. I guess the failure (?) of that album has resulted in an attempt to pivot. And a change in record label too.
 

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I think a lot of the negativity towards her points back to the fact that she posted some very problematic, racist and idiotic statements on her Tumblr back in 2012, it all came out around the release of her album Romance in 2019. She’s since apologised and went to racial learning classes organised by racial equity groups, but people are allowed to still be upset by it.
She also was completely silent when Normani was racially abused during their last album campaign together. It underscored how much of that behavior was part of her regular operating schedule.
 
The first time I heard of her and Fifth Harmony in 2013/2014 was because those Tumblr posts and (alleged) vile leaked Facebook messages had surfaced and it was trending on Twitter. It's surprising it flew under the radar for so long.

The snippet sounds truly awful.
 
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She also was completely silent when Normani was racially abused during their last album campaign together. It underscored how much of that behavior was part of her regular operating schedule.

Yeah. The Tumblr, Twitter and Facebook posts and messages spanning years were of course part of the problem, but it was Camila’s lack of acknowledgment for years that made it worse. Especially when Normani was being bullied by Camila fans, being sent literal photos of lynchings. It wasn’t until after Normani left Twitter after being harassed for days that she finally spoke up and said she didn’t condone the behavior. In 2019, Camila finally acknowledged everything and apologized, because it was impossible to ignore and it was overshadowing the release of her album. Normani herself has said she was disappointed it took Camilla so long:

It would be dishonest if I said that this particular scenario didn’t hurt me. It was devastating that this came from a place that was supposed to be a safe haven and a sisterhood, because I knew that if the tables were turned I would defend each of them in a single heartbeat. It took days for her to acknowledge what I was dealing with online and then years for her to take responsibility for the offensive tweets that recently resurfaced. Whether or not it was her intention, this made me feel like I was second to the relationship that she had with her fans.

Anyway, my views on ~cancelation and whatnot have shifted so much over time. If someone is genuinely working on themselves then great. Camila has some tracks I really enjoy, even if I don’t listen to her these days. But I agree, she just doesn’t have much (if any) of her own artistic identity, so it’s kinda hard to be invested. Everything is wearing her as opposed to her wearing it, and you can immediately see what indie pop girl from the last 4 years she’s referencing as opposed to having her own influence on it. If I didn’t know any better, I would honestly just guess she hired some Twitter stan to creative direct.
 
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Anyway, my views on ~cancelation and whatnot have shifted so much over time. If someone is genuinely working on themselves then great. Camila has some tracks I really enjoy, even if I don’t listen to her these days. But I agree, she just doesn’t have much (if any) of her own artistic identity, so it’s kinda hard to be invested. Everything is wearing her as opposed to her wearing it, and you can immediately see what indie pop girl from the last 4 years she’s referencing as opposed to having her own influence on it. If I didn’t know any better, I would honestly just guess she hired some Twitter stan to creative direct.

The thing is, if she had kept the sound of ''Don't Go Yet'' for the whole album then we'd have something great.
 
This random Spring Breakers rebranding is especially jarring because I guess I didn't realize how badly her last era flopped. Bam Bam has over 800M streams, and I don't check for her at all, so I just assumed the album did okay, but Wikipedia tells me it sold under 30K first week and the single missed the top 20.

But if they think this is going to be what she needs to get back into the top 10...
 

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