Chlöe Bailey - "Boy Bye" + Trouble in Paradise (TBD)

An album track that’s track #31 on a 31-track album that came out five months ago? I don’t know if people even realised it existed.
An album that also features Kanye, Lil Wayne and Tory Lanez… I wish I remained never knowing of its existence.


I think it’s just time for me to bow out of this solo career. It’s been a mixed bag packed with delays and now… this, I’m just not sure it’s worth it.
 
“A mistake I did at 19” would not include beating up a woman. He makes it sound like something trivial and a mistake of youth when I genuinely do not know a lot of people who can do that. People can change (which he hasn’t), but merely saying he doesn’t understand why it’s haunting him forever shows he still completely misses the point.
 
Is there a reason why Miguel always seems to get shut out of these collaborations? He may not be setting the charts on fire but neither is Chris Brown in 2023!

To be fair, Miguel does get high profile collaborations every once in a while, but it’s baffling how much more industry support Chris Brown gets than he does.

As a creative, Miguel’s body of work shits all over Chris’s and his voice is a thousand times more pleasant. If I were positioning myself as a credible, primarily R&B artist like what I assume they’re trying to do with Chlöe, Miguel or Frank Ocean among males would be the most obvious contemporary choices and Usher for the legacy angle... if only credibility as artists were the issue. Instead, the girls and boys seem to keep running to this demon, who doesn’t even have the body of work to back it up. Make it make sense!
 
Where the hell was this energy when she and Chris first collabed together?



That's The Game's track, features don't necessarily decide who else ends up on the track.

And gosh Chris' presence here ruins things. He hasn't been able to put out a vocal not slathered in correction in years.
 
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Honestly her entire solo career thus far has failed to capture the effortless spark of Ungodly Hour. There was something so captivating about them as a duo that seems to have been lost in the work she’s made separate to Halle.

This collaboration is the death knell for me. Good luck to her.
 
Ty Dolla Sign is also literally right there and in my opinion, he consistently does what needs to be done and turns in great verses. Along with Miguel, the options everyone has already mentioned make infinitely more sense from both an artistic and logical perspective. This just feels so cheap and pandering but it also completely misses the mark on what her audience actually wants from her. She either doesn’t give a fuck or she’s just really that daft. Either way it’s sad. And gross. Like there isn’t anything at this point that he can do to actually damage his career but this is potentially fatal for hers so it’s even more stupid.
 
I know that it’s easy for Twitter to become an echo chamber and it’s very clear that the opinions on that bird app don’t necessarily reflect people in the “real world,” but I just don’t understand how her or anyone on her team would think “yes, this sounds like a great idea that this fandom is really going to rally behind.” Like, muffy the cognitive dissonance.
 
Miguel, 6LACK, Bryson Tiller, Brent Fayiaz, Ty Dolla $ign, Lucky Daye, Khalid, Giveon, Anderson .Paak, Usher, SiR, Daniel Daley of dvsn, Jeremih, Josh Levi, Steve Lacy, PARTYNEXTDOOR, Swae Lee, Omar Apollo, Roy Wood, Blxst, RealestK, Destin Conrad, Arin Ray, THEY., Pink Sweat$, Leven Kali, Majid Al-Maskati of Majid Jordan, Ro James, Ali Gatie, RINI, Dylan Sinclair, August Alsina, BJ The Chicago Kid, Col3trane, Ryan Trey, Scribz Riley, Xavier Omär, bLAck pARty, Leon Thomas, Yo Trane, Duckwrth, Gallant, Chase Shakur, ODIE, Jordan Ward, Luke James, Zacari...

I don't know about y'all, but I haven't noticed a shortage of talented and actually interesting male artists, who have built a strong following and are – as far as I know – at the very least decent people, in the R&B landscape that would justify your need to dial up Chris Brown's number to try to get a cheap buzz single or whatever. And if you want to go for a legacy artist who's still kind of active today, Lloyd, Ne-Yo, Omarion, Eric Bellinger, The-Dream or Babyface are right there. There's something so infuriating about seeing artists like Chlöe and H.E.R. working with Chris Brown because it feels so deliberated.
 
I think she and her team knew exactly what they were doing. It's obvious her buzz has died down since Have Mercy, none of the other singles were able to reach that level of success. She has an album coming that most people don't know/care about, so they went with something controversial for her to be the talk of the town again - bad publicity is still publicity etc etc. We'll see how this works out for her in the long term.
 
I saw a TikTok that explicitly explained how his fans keep de-aging him at the time of the abuse to further give credence to “he was just a child”. It’s crazy how people will accept a 14-year-old giving consent to being urinated on, but that a 20-year-old beating a woman AND reading the police report, could say it was a fight and that she deserved it.

The main connecting thread is just misogynoir. Women, especially Black women, are considered “fast”/“hypersexual”, which contributes to them being considered older than age. Meanwhile Black men are infantilized no matter what they do. That’s the shit here. And what makes people in our community openly working with him so disgusting. Every time.

What's funny is that it's not even just about the incident with Rihanna. He's had a streak of behavior that's fallen in line with it to show he's had no growth since then. It would be one thing if he went away for a while, showed genuine remorse and had a redemption period, but he's literally gone down the same streak:

https://people.com/music/chris-brown-a-timeline-of-the-singers-legal-trouble/

Miguel, 6LACK, Bryson Tiller, Brent Fayiaz, Ty Dolla $ign, Lucky Daye, Khalid, Giveon, Anderson .Paak, Usher, SiR, Daniel Daley of dvsn, Jeremih, Josh Levi, Steve Lacy, PARTYNEXTDOOR, Swae Lee, Omar Apollo, Roy Wood, Blxst, RealestK, Destin Conrad, Arin Ray, THEY., Pink Sweat$, Leven Kali, Majid Al-Maskati of Majid Jordan, Ro James, Ali Gatie, RINI, Dylan Sinclair, August Alsina, BJ The Chicago Kid, Col3trane, Ryan Trey, Scribz Riley, Xavier Omär, bLAck pARty, Leon Thomas, Yo Trane, Duckwrth, Gallant, Chase Shakur, ODIE, Jordan Ward, Luke James, Zacari...

I don't know about y'all, but I haven't noticed a shortage of talented and actually interesting male artists, who have built a strong following and are – as far as I know – at the very least decent people, in the R&B landscape that would justify your need to dial up Chris Brown's number to try to get a cheap buzz single or whatever. And if you want to go for a legacy artist who's still kind of active today, Lloyd, Ne-Yo, Omarion, Eric Bellinger, The-Dream or Babyface are right there. There's something so infuriating about seeing artists like Chlöe and H.E.R. working with Chris Brown because it feels so deliberated.

Miguel and Steve Lacey are especially talented and extremely under utilized. And if they were too tough to get, anyone else you named would have been great. It makes me sad that someone as talented as Chloe couldn't be smarter about this.
 

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What's funny is that it's not even just about the incident with Rihanna. He's had a streak of behavior that's fallen in line with it to show he's had no growth since then. It would be one thing if he went away for a while, showed genuine remorse and had a redemption period, but he's literally gone down the same streak:

https://people.com/music/chris-brown-a-timeline-of-the-singers-legal-trouble/
I mean, miss girl, I know about his history! I've been on PJ since 2008 and witnessed it all. The thing is... is that the Rihanna incident is the famous first moment, so people always center on it. His whole experience afterward only adds to it, but that initial point is what everyone tends to mention, and mention alone.
 
I mean, miss girl, I know about his history! I've been on PJ since 2008 and witnessed it all. The thing is... is that the Rihanna incident is the famous first moment, so people always center on it. His whole experience afterward only adds to it, but that initial point is what everyone tends to mention, and mention alone.

No of course I didn't think you weren't aware! Sorry if the tone came off wrong, I was just further adding to your point.
 
I've been slowly down on streaming "Pray It Away", there's a lesson to be learned for foolery! I'm not the trick to be tricked Miss Ö.
 
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