COMPLETE GARBAGE: The Discography Rate (WINNER!)
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I hate the people here. No one had anything to say about this marvellous piece? Seriously?
My score: 10
My comments: This is one of their best b-sides. I actually like it more than the Androgyny. Apart from the fact that it is incredibly produced, its such a well written song. Shriley's delivery throughout is amazing! Studio experiments aside, this could have been not only an album track but also a single.
I like how Shirley is mocking someone in the verses and then being sarcastic but caring in the chorus. The heavy drums and guitars towards the end of the song is an epic moment.
Shame on all of you for not taking this song further in the rate.
My Score: 7
My Comments: I like that they changed the song so much. Of course I love the original, but Garbage made this version their own.
I cannot believe Begging Bone went out before this one.
My Score: 6
My Comments: I've always thought of this song as Shirley being the mistress. Never liked that image of her in my head, I also don't like that she's craving here...She's always seemed more like the dominatrix. The mild S&M metaphors about being on the knees and licking the pavement are very meh. Lyrically, the song could have been so much more.
Even this one outdid Begging Bone. Shame.
My score: 5
My comments: Its alright. I don't like the feature, but its alright.
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Yes, The Killers and Garbage are what that tribute CD's all about for me!
Well, whilst I'm highly glad to see the back of Because The Night (positive thinking: Can't Cry These Tears will be next!), I fucking love Begging Bone and Wild Horses.
I have to say, whilst I am very much used to my opinions being very different to those of others in these rates, there's some absolute stormers going out far too early here, whilst other, lesser songs seem to be clinging on simply because they're better known.
Maybe it's because I know Garbage's work so well and have loved them for so long, but I'm finding the lack of love for the likes of Get Busy, Come Over and Space more frustrating than I normally would!!!
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@bichard you and I have similar opinions...and its not just with Garbage is it? I'm glad that there are other people who love Fizzy, Come Over, Space and Begging Bone.
By the way, I laughed so hard at your "ear-rapage" comment about Can't Cry These Tears. I have a very similar comment about the song.
By the way, I laughed so hard at your "ear-rapage" comment about Can't Cry These Tears. I have a very similar comment about the song.
BRIGHT TONIGHT
AVERAGE SCORE: 6.407
HIGHEST SCORE: 9 x 2 (@constantino, @Sprockrooster)
LOWEST SCORE: 3 x 3 (@etienne, @heartmightmelt, @magictreehouse)
A brief respite from the G-sides cull to knock out Bright Tonight, one of the deluxe tracks from Not Your Kind Of People and yeah, this is one that could've gone a bit further and I wouldn't have been mad. Bright Tonight sounds to me like it was lifted directly from Hole's amazing Celebrity Skin album, with those same sort of dreamy sun-kissed California vibes especially in that guitar sound and melody. Shirley dueting with herself is also a nice touch, even if Courtney Love low voice Shirley does sound a bit off-key compared to Melissa Auf Der Maur high voice Shirley in places.
@Sprockrooster: This should have been on the album. So mellow and beautifully drifting.
@sfmartin: Pretty but that guitar reminds me of Coldplay which i'm sure Shirley would hate!
@digitalkaiser: It’s a cute uplifting sort of song at the end of the deluxe. I don’t use very much!
@constantino: Whew this is LOVELY. Melodic, rich and lush - all things that would’ve contributed greatly to the mess that is the standard tracklist of this album.
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Bright Tonight and Begging Bone both deserved to stay longer.
WITNESS TO YOUR LOVE
AVERAGE SCORE: 6.519
HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 1 (@LE0Night)
LOWEST SCORE: 2.5 x 1 (@magictreehouse)
Recorded specifically for the 2008 Urban Outfitters/Filter Magazine charity compilation Give Listen Help to benefit the Pablove Foundation and the LA Children's Hospital, Witness To Your Love opened the 2CD album.
At a benefit gig for the Pablove Foundation the following year, Shirley and Butch performed the song
Witness To Your Love is actually really sweet, without being too cloying and sees Shirley reminiscing with an unnamed accomplice on her own childhood growing up in Edinburgh, name checking The Canongate district in the city and talking about the things they used to do as kids, such as shoplifting and skipping over the Heart of Midlothian mosaic. Speaking of shoplifting, someone used this gif on the genius page for the song and it's hilarious so I stole it:
You're welcome.
@sfmartin: Now this is a hidden gem! It just builds and builds and Shirley shows a new side to her vocals in quite a high belt. It really suits her.
@digitalkaiser: This feels like something that could have come out of beautifulgarbage? What sessions is it from?
@Oleander: Take notes, Kety.
THIRTEEN
AVERAGE SCORE: 6.527
HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 1 (@marie_05)
LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 1 (@Sprockrooster)
Thirteen is the b-side and Japanese bonus track for Version 2.0 and is an oft-covered song by influential American group Big Star from their 1972 album #1 Record.
As you can hear it's a pretty faithful recreation, just given the usual Garbage twist of adding electronics and Shirley's gorgeous vocals. When asked by Rolling Stone magazine whether there were any versions of Thirteen Big Star leader Alex Chilton was particularly fond of, he chose Garbage's. I love it when talent stans talent.
@Sprockrooster: Offensively boring. I cannot keep focused with this.
@sfmartin: This is so pretty! Definitely belonged on an album. It's a lovely come down after the beast that is Push It on the single.
@AshleyKerwin: This sounds so soft and lush and the lyrics make me go :’)
@Epic Chocolat: Interesting cover.
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I HATE YOU OH MY GOD
Wow at this Bright Tonight slander. I never noticed the Celebrity Skin comparison but I definitely hear it. I think they compared Felt to Coldplay?
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Bright Tonight is one of the best tracks on the album, ugh. The guitar hook reminds me of another song but I can't quite put my finger on what it is. I'm thinking something by The Cranberries or R.E.M. but it might actually be neither.
On Fire is massively underappreciated but I guess I can blame it on lack of familiarity. It's one of those tracks that needs to be listened to at the right time.
I actually love the Because the Night cover mostly thanks to Screaming Females providing powerful vocals and a killer guitar solo. As for the U2 cover, I can't hear how Garbage supposedly made it their own, I'd say it's pretty straightforward (check out the Patti Smith track on the CD for comparison). My faves on the album are Killers' Ultra Violet, Depeche Mode's So Cruel and Gavin Friday's The Fly, and I guess I'd placeNo Just Like Them Wild Horses 4th.
On Fire is massively underappreciated but I guess I can blame it on lack of familiarity. It's one of those tracks that needs to be listened to at the right time.
I actually love the Because the Night cover mostly thanks to Screaming Females providing powerful vocals and a killer guitar solo. As for the U2 cover, I can't hear how Garbage supposedly made it their own, I'd say it's pretty straightforward (check out the Patti Smith track on the CD for comparison). My faves on the album are Killers' Ultra Violet, Depeche Mode's So Cruel and Gavin Friday's The Fly, and I guess I'd place
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Felt always reminded me of Smashing Pumpkins - that opening guitar riff is straight out of Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness.
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Witness is lovely. It could have held out for a while for me.
Bright Tonight is quite nice, and my 4 might have been a bit tight. It's not very exciting though.
Bright Tonight is quite nice, and my 4 might have been a bit tight. It's not very exciting though.
Bright tonight is has that soft psych feel that I love, and which is pretty different for them. I think I scored it a 7.5. It's just missing that little spark in the vocal melody.
Getting caught up:
101. Butterfly Collector - 7
This one sometimes irks me as I think the whistle noise in the chorus draws too much attention to itself, but I like that Garbage made the song their own. It sounds brilliant live.
100. Felt - 10
Y'all don't here what I hear. I totally appreciate what they were going for with this, and I adore it. That middle-8 and third verse section just explodes out of me. This song *did* take a while to grow on me, so I can understand that not everyone will like the phased guitars and the drowned vocal.
99. Begging Bone - 7
I actually prefer the original demo to this, which sort of sounded like a funk version of a Holy Bible era Manic Street Preachers track. The severe L-R split on the chorus is bit annoying to be honest.
98. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses - 8
I ADORE this. At first I wasn't sure how I felt about it, as the first taste of the band's sound after the hiatus... and then the Don't Turn Around part hits, and it sounds like a classic Garbage song. It helps that it's one of the few U2 songs I care for.
97. Lick the Pavement - 7
Fun, short, perfect little b-side. Whenever I hear this it takes me right back to when Push It and Version 2.0 were riding high in the charts, and Shirley was on the front cover of every magazine. I'd love to relive that era again.
96. Because the Night - 7
Fairly straight-forward "rock" cover, but I love Shirley's vocal variation of "the WAY I FEEL", and that humongous guitar solo is brilliant. My biggest criticism is that Shirley is basically redundant from the half-way point. Could they have not stuck in a couple of wee adlibs somewhere?
95. Bright Tonight - 3
I really dislike Bright Tonight. It's just so twee. It's like a song that Atomic Kitten recorded as a Live Lounge style b-side.
94. Witness to Your Love - 4
I love the Edinburgh references in the lyrics, and from the moment the bass guitar kicks in it sounds like it could be a big stomper song but from the chorus onwards it just falls flat... I don't like it. It just sounds like they hit a deadline wall and couldn't finish the rest of the song in time.
101. Butterfly Collector - 7
This one sometimes irks me as I think the whistle noise in the chorus draws too much attention to itself, but I like that Garbage made the song their own. It sounds brilliant live.
100. Felt - 10
Y'all don't here what I hear. I totally appreciate what they were going for with this, and I adore it. That middle-8 and third verse section just explodes out of me. This song *did* take a while to grow on me, so I can understand that not everyone will like the phased guitars and the drowned vocal.
99. Begging Bone - 7
I actually prefer the original demo to this, which sort of sounded like a funk version of a Holy Bible era Manic Street Preachers track. The severe L-R split on the chorus is bit annoying to be honest.
98. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses - 8
I ADORE this. At first I wasn't sure how I felt about it, as the first taste of the band's sound after the hiatus... and then the Don't Turn Around part hits, and it sounds like a classic Garbage song. It helps that it's one of the few U2 songs I care for.
97. Lick the Pavement - 7
Fun, short, perfect little b-side. Whenever I hear this it takes me right back to when Push It and Version 2.0 were riding high in the charts, and Shirley was on the front cover of every magazine. I'd love to relive that era again.
96. Because the Night - 7
Fairly straight-forward "rock" cover, but I love Shirley's vocal variation of "the WAY I FEEL", and that humongous guitar solo is brilliant. My biggest criticism is that Shirley is basically redundant from the half-way point. Could they have not stuck in a couple of wee adlibs somewhere?
95. Bright Tonight - 3
I really dislike Bright Tonight. It's just so twee. It's like a song that Atomic Kitten recorded as a Live Lounge style b-side.
94. Witness to Your Love - 4
I love the Edinburgh references in the lyrics, and from the moment the bass guitar kicks in it sounds like it could be a big stomper song but from the chorus onwards it just falls flat... I don't like it. It just sounds like they hit a deadline wall and couldn't finish the rest of the song in time.
FUCKING WITH YOU
AVERAGE SCORE: 6.538
HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 1 (@Andy French)
LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 1 (@magictreehouse)
Cruelly remaining a vinyl-only track, Fucking With You closed out the LP version of Strange Little Birds and while Amends definitely feels like an album closer, to hear Fucking With You come snaking in afterwards definitely works somehow. Spacey, creepy and quite sad I love this but I guess until Garbage decide to make it available to those who don't fetishise vinyl I'll have to make do with a YouTube rip like it's 2008. SIGH. Also shout out to the intro sounding exactly like the intro of the Spirit Temple music from Ocarina of Time. Was that intentional?
@sfmartin: Too much of a snooze fest, takes ages to get off the ground and then does very little. The title deserved a banger.
@digitalkaiser: This really feels like a b-side, a blast from the past.
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USE ME
AVERAGE SCORE: 6.558
HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 1 (@etienne)
LOWEST SCORE: 1 x 1 (@blissteria)
Use Me is another beautifulgarbage g-side, appearing on the Cherry Lips single and to me, it's one of the better g-sides from that era and apart from that slightly unfocused sounding ending could quite easily have held its own by appearing on the main album with a bit of tweaking.
@tylerc904: Would have liked this on the album over a couple others.
@sfmartin: Definite b side material, but I do still use.
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