Well you have to listen to them, you see.
COMPLETE - The Indie/Alt Pop/Not-quite-'Mainstream'-but-still-accessible Girls 2017 Rate!!1
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The extras range from very good to excellent, come on now.
I think everyone who took part in that rate agrees that there truly were multiple heartbreaking and unjust moments in that rate. Lana being kicked out first, BANKS losing so many good songs too early after dodging the first 20 or something eliminations, Shura's slow songs being done dirty, People continuing to scalp Marina down to her skull even after the weaker FROOT songs got eliminated etc... It was a mess.Remembering the context of this skull dragging.
As for how this rate will turn out.
I'm prepared for another mess, though.
Mother Earth not even cracking the top 30 of last year's rate still angers me.
I'm looking at it now and the commentary from the low scorers is beyond tragic.
This is the proper way to react to Mother Earth:
To be honest I find it not very good because it’s a sluggish retread of things she’s done better in the past. Love and Lust for Life were huge steps forward for her, and everything else that followed was ultimately a regression.
But then again I’ve never really been here for her whole droning sad girl aesthetic so what do I know.
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Former member 21294
You just listened to White Mustang and did not even touch second half, didn’t you?
Why do Lana fans always feel the need to be so snippy when I say I don't like something of hers? Like... I've said she's not my thing so why be rude about it?
I'm just expressing my opinion - it's not even an uncommon one. A quick glance over plenty of reviews of her records reveals that plenty of people find her talent impressive but ultimately a lot of her music one note.
I'm just expressing my opinion - it's not even an uncommon one. A quick glance over plenty of reviews of her records reveals that plenty of people find her talent impressive but ultimately a lot of her music one note.
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Former member 21294
Well that is because you are claiming she regressed musically and lyrically when it is clearly the opposite with the second half of the record. Other than that i dont give a fuck if you hate her record. But whatever work your victim complex.
The fact is, how can you single her out for being one-note when Lust For Life has such a distinct separation between the hip-hop leanings of the first half and the acoustic vibes of the second? You can blame her for not straddling too far from her usual melancholy languor all you want, you can say there's not much tempo variation in her songs, ok, that's fair, but let's stop with this "all her music sounds the same" because, quite frankly, it's just nonsense. Lana's actually much more adventurous sonically than most people give her credit for. I mean, have you actually listened to Summer Bummer? Do you really think Cherry is the carbon copy of Change? That In My Feelings is Get Free's long lost sister? How can you listen to all her albums and claim her music sounds the same? I'm genuinely curious, because to me all her albums have such a distinctive sound and identity, and even inside them most tracks stand out on their own.
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Former member 21294
Are you going to post that video when you literally arched your back for your “but Lana fans always attack me” gig seconds ago?
This is a much better description of what I'm trying to say. Her music, lyrically and musically, exists in a very restricted world that I have grown tired of. For me at least, you could run her last three albums back to back and I couldn't tell you when one ends and another begins. I'm not even saying she has to suddenly drop everything and make a huge pop album or whatever. She just doesn't demonstrate that much range - that's why people don't give her much credit for being sonically adventurous.
I'm not trying to imply her music sounds all the same. "Freak" sounds nothing like "Love" which sounds nothing like "Off To The Races" which sounds nothing like "West Coast". I chose to single out those songs because I think they are the best from their respective albums. They are all quite distinct and show her bringing fresh ideas to the table yet still fit perfectly in her cannon.
Maybe we just get different things from her. That's ok. I'm just laying my cards on the table is all.
Me cutting between y'all fighting this much and getting protective over your faves in the thread and the spreadsheet
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
ohnostalgia
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She/her
No, this part was iconic. xx
My main takeaway from doing this is that the HAIM album really isn't as bad as I thought when it was when it came out, you just have to really concentrate to figure that out.