COMPLETE - The Indie/Alt Pop/Not-quite-'Mainstream'-but-still-accessible Girls 2017 Rate!!1
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70. Lana Del Rey - White Mustang
Average: 7.11
High: 10 x 5 (@happiestgirl @Trouble in Paradise @Joe. @Sprockrooster @soratami)
Low: 2 x 1 (@Jackarywoo)
My score: 8
10 voters in: 51
20 voters in: 70
30 voters in: 57
40 voters in: 65
50 voters in: 66
60 voters in: 68
ddd we love a rollercoaster! Surprised? I was. I did not expect that this would be the first Lana song to go; I was sure it would be in the first three but I was convinced that Tomorrow Never Came and Coachella were less popular and so would leave earlier. Although, I personally prefer Coachella to this so I'm kinda happy about it no tea. As you can see, this song had its fair share of peaks and troughs throughout the voting period, sitting comfortably within the top 60 on two occasions and nearly breaking into the top 50 at one point, only to just about scape the top 70 when voting closed. At its peak (10 voters in) it was the SEVENTH Lana song to be eliminated...and now it's the first. Makes U think.
'White Mustang', the shortest track on Lust For Life, was co-written with Rick Nowels and co-produced with Nowels, Kieron Menzies and Dean Reid. It was one of the songs that Lana teased frequently on Instagram, posting videos of her listening to snippets of the track on two occasions between June and July. To the surprise of many fans, the track had the honour of getting video treatment, making it the third song of the era to get a music video. Fans speculate that a lot of the footage in the video was originally intended for a music video for the unreleased LFL outtake 'Architecture', with some Nancy Drews digging up a behind the scenes video featuring her singing the latter!
Here is what y'all had to say...which overall was pretty darn mixed:
Jackarywoo (2) gets personal by dragging Lana's best friend just two days before their birthday, the damn nerve! 'Jesus, this is boring'. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be dragged into your petty vendetta against her, leave it out.
Cassava (3) takes an awfully...literally standpoint on this track: I’m not at all a car person so the metaphor does nothing for me and the music does less. Okay...work.
Stradiwhovius (4.5) clearly has a low attention span: This is where my interest in the album starts to taper off. It's… adequate. It's track FOUR, sis...
By the sounds of it, kalonite (6) thinks it's more beige than white: I honestly can never really remember much about this. It's pretty dull.
Moving into the positive comments, Bangers&Bops (8), as usual, has something thoughtful and articulate to add: She takes a top-down ride in a lover’s white mustang. Ever since we saw her hold her own against lumbering motorcycle gangs on ride and driving down a long highway in the video for “Burning Desire," we’ve been waiting another road-trip ready bop. Melancholic motor junkies, rejoice.
Flop stan Kuhleezi (8.5) had a shocking admission: stan confessions: still have to watch the video. Well you can rectify that right now by scrolling down!
Michael17 (8.5) gets extra points for his use of the word 'languid': Very heavy, so it’s good that it’s short. Very languid and luxe chorus. Could do with a bit more atmospherics or something in the choruses because she has enough piano ballads.
mokitsu (8.5) shows some generosity (for once): ‘This is nice, but doesn't leave a lasting impression.’ AND YET you gave most of About U 4s and 5s because they ‘weren’t memorable’. Hmm. Your bias is showing.
Fantasy (8.5) has a fallacy: Wait, is a ‘White Mustang’ referring to a penis? dddd. This is actually quite nice. I like the way the song builds and the last minute in particular is brilliant, especially the final chorus. The race-car sounds and whistling are nice added effects. I think she genuinely meant the car, sis.
sfmartin (9): One of the weakest songs on the album but it’s still very very good. Even lazy Lana is still top notch. She clearly can churn addictive, heartbreaking melodies in her sleep. At first I read it as 'chum addictive' and now I'm thinking about Plankton from Spongebob. Miss Karen was everything, wasn't she?
Sprockrooster (10) calls it ‘so effortlessly chill and those whistles suit the song so well.’
happiestgirl (10) attempts a drive-by drag for the video: 'Lana by the numbers is Lana I love. Shane about the video though.' a) oo’s Shane? b) the video is excellent.
This song is what won Trouble in Paradise (10) back around to team Lana: This is the song that got me to listen to Lust for Life after falling off the Lana train for a few albums. Her voice with the piano is gorgeous. The second verse is the lyrical highlight of the album in my opinion. “I’ve been feeling like armageddon cause you, hold me in your arms just a little too tight”
Joe. (10) stans the underdog and gives this the love it deserves: It disappoints me that this is so often seen as the worst song on the album. Yes, it's almost parody Lana 'In your white mustang…your white mustang'. Yes, she's kind of written this song about 20 times before. But there is something so perfect about the way this comes together, from the understated piano-led instrumental to Lana's dreamy, just-smoked-7-blunts vocal.
Average: 7.11
High: 10 x 5 (@happiestgirl @Trouble in Paradise @Joe. @Sprockrooster @soratami)
Low: 2 x 1 (@Jackarywoo)
My score: 8
10 voters in: 51
20 voters in: 70
30 voters in: 57
40 voters in: 65
50 voters in: 66
60 voters in: 68
ddd we love a rollercoaster! Surprised? I was. I did not expect that this would be the first Lana song to go; I was sure it would be in the first three but I was convinced that Tomorrow Never Came and Coachella were less popular and so would leave earlier. Although, I personally prefer Coachella to this so I'm kinda happy about it no tea. As you can see, this song had its fair share of peaks and troughs throughout the voting period, sitting comfortably within the top 60 on two occasions and nearly breaking into the top 50 at one point, only to just about scape the top 70 when voting closed. At its peak (10 voters in) it was the SEVENTH Lana song to be eliminated...and now it's the first. Makes U think.
'White Mustang', the shortest track on Lust For Life, was co-written with Rick Nowels and co-produced with Nowels, Kieron Menzies and Dean Reid. It was one of the songs that Lana teased frequently on Instagram, posting videos of her listening to snippets of the track on two occasions between June and July. To the surprise of many fans, the track had the honour of getting video treatment, making it the third song of the era to get a music video. Fans speculate that a lot of the footage in the video was originally intended for a music video for the unreleased LFL outtake 'Architecture', with some Nancy Drews digging up a behind the scenes video featuring her singing the latter!
Here is what y'all had to say...which overall was pretty darn mixed:
Jackarywoo (2) gets personal by dragging Lana's best friend just two days before their birthday, the damn nerve! 'Jesus, this is boring'. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be dragged into your petty vendetta against her, leave it out.
Cassava (3) takes an awfully...literally standpoint on this track: I’m not at all a car person so the metaphor does nothing for me and the music does less. Okay...work.
Stradiwhovius (4.5) clearly has a low attention span: This is where my interest in the album starts to taper off. It's… adequate. It's track FOUR, sis...
By the sounds of it, kalonite (6) thinks it's more beige than white: I honestly can never really remember much about this. It's pretty dull.
Moving into the positive comments, Bangers&Bops (8), as usual, has something thoughtful and articulate to add: She takes a top-down ride in a lover’s white mustang. Ever since we saw her hold her own against lumbering motorcycle gangs on ride and driving down a long highway in the video for “Burning Desire," we’ve been waiting another road-trip ready bop. Melancholic motor junkies, rejoice.
Flop stan Kuhleezi (8.5) had a shocking admission: stan confessions: still have to watch the video. Well you can rectify that right now by scrolling down!
Michael17 (8.5) gets extra points for his use of the word 'languid': Very heavy, so it’s good that it’s short. Very languid and luxe chorus. Could do with a bit more atmospherics or something in the choruses because she has enough piano ballads.
mokitsu (8.5) shows some generosity (for once): ‘This is nice, but doesn't leave a lasting impression.’ AND YET you gave most of About U 4s and 5s because they ‘weren’t memorable’. Hmm. Your bias is showing.
Fantasy (8.5) has a fallacy: Wait, is a ‘White Mustang’ referring to a penis? dddd. This is actually quite nice. I like the way the song builds and the last minute in particular is brilliant, especially the final chorus. The race-car sounds and whistling are nice added effects. I think she genuinely meant the car, sis.
sfmartin (9): One of the weakest songs on the album but it’s still very very good. Even lazy Lana is still top notch. She clearly can churn addictive, heartbreaking melodies in her sleep. At first I read it as 'chum addictive' and now I'm thinking about Plankton from Spongebob. Miss Karen was everything, wasn't she?
Sprockrooster (10) calls it ‘so effortlessly chill and those whistles suit the song so well.’
happiestgirl (10) attempts a drive-by drag for the video: 'Lana by the numbers is Lana I love. Shane about the video though.' a) oo’s Shane? b) the video is excellent.
This song is what won Trouble in Paradise (10) back around to team Lana: This is the song that got me to listen to Lust for Life after falling off the Lana train for a few albums. Her voice with the piano is gorgeous. The second verse is the lyrical highlight of the album in my opinion. “I’ve been feeling like armageddon cause you, hold me in your arms just a little too tight”
Joe. (10) stans the underdog and gives this the love it deserves: It disappoints me that this is so often seen as the worst song on the album. Yes, it's almost parody Lana 'In your white mustang…your white mustang'. Yes, she's kind of written this song about 20 times before. But there is something so perfect about the way this comes together, from the understated piano-led instrumental to Lana's dreamy, just-smoked-7-blunts vocal.
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White Mustang being Lana's first cut.
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I love everything about Lust For Life and there are still some tracks that should have been out before this one (get that Haim album the fuck out), but I think it's only right (and a true example of #popjustice) that White Mustang is the first cut. It's not even my least favorite on the album, but it deserves to go out, if nothing then for being so devastatingly mediocre and hardly bringing anything unique or interesting either to its respective album or Lana's discography in general.
There are actually people who think White Mustang isn't the worst song on Lust for Life by a considerable margin?
Interesting.
Interesting.
The worst song is clearly Groupie Love though....
Moving on to the next elimination like
69. Charli XCX - Roll With Me
Get in loser, we're going flopping
Average: 7.19
High: 11 x 1 (@RUNAWAY) 10 x 10 (@enjoy @Sanctuary @JapaneseJesus @Petty Mayonnaise @GimmeWork @Joe. @Bolton @tylerc904 @Kuhleezi @Heaven on Earth)
Low: 1.5 x 1 (@A&E)
My score: 7.5
10 voters in: 28 - ddd FUCK
20 voters in: 49
30 voters in: 45
40 voters in: 48
50 voters in: 61
60 voters in: 63
Forget the SOPHIE-produced beat drop, let's talk about how this fell from #28 to #69, I audibly gagged. As you can see above, this got the most 10s in the rate so far - unfortunately, all but one was received in the first half of voting. A sea of 3-5s in the later stages plus that lethal 1.5 in a rate with generally 6+ scores and, like I mentioned in the top 70 summary, incredibly close averages, was all it took to tank it. I can see a lot of y'all throwing hands about this so cut I'm excited for the oncoming messery.
I have to be honest...this isn't my favourite track on N1A. I much prefer White Roses (which is already out), so I wasn't devastated to see this out already. I adore the verses, which have the fizzy dance sensibility of Wynter Gordon's iconic Dirty Talk, and I also love the breathy pre-chorus. It goes a bit downhill when we get to the post-chorus, which gets a bit repetitive for me. The signature SOPHIE warped, dirty bubblegum, RIP-headphone-users production only really works for men some of the time (buy and stream 'Ponyboy' NOW!). Overall, this is not my favourite on the mixtape but my have I underscored it slightly.
Despite not being involved with this track, A.G. Cook gave some commentary in his N1A track-by-track:
I wasn't involved with this track, but it had been floating around for a while, and was one of the demos that Charli and Sophie worked on after Soph moved to LA. There are some really beautiful songs that they made around this time, and the work they're capable of doing together is amazing. I remember how impressed Sophie was with Charli after they'd written a few songs together, and vice versa. Both of them create music from a very deep, almost physical place - it's really not an intellectual exercise in the way that it's sometimes made out to be... and I can prove it!! :P
I ended up doing an edit of Roll With Me for the mixtape shows that Charli & I played, and it became the intro for the whole set. My tactic was to force my own very dense chords over the 'dark' bassline from the drop - chords that shouldn't really be there (!) In my mind I was also referencing the way that Sophie and I have tended to write music together - where I push myself to find these very dense/beautiful chords that can squeeze between and match all the dense/beautiful sound design taking shape.
And here's what y'all had to say:
Trouble in Paradise (3.5) did not wake up feeling positive: I was really feeling this until the chorus. Yeahy yeahy yeah is a let down. ddd what a sentence.
kalonite (4.5): Honestly, the most enjoyment I get out of this song was when I looked up the lyrics and just got lost in a sea of the word "Yeah"
AshleyKerwin (5.5) goes tf IN and denounces it as ‘bad dated EDM’ that ‘sounds like it's from a roller coaster video.’ Okay but roller coaster video music can pop off at times...
Bleedingheart80 (6) keeps it blunt: Too repetitive, not a fan of the music/beat.
happiestgirl (6) wasn’t pleased with the way the song progresses: The beginning is great but it turns into a bit of a mess at the end.
sfmartin (8) it's CHARLI, it's CHARLI, baby... 'Such an inventive production. Charlie and SOPHIE are a such a good match.'
Even Charli hater mokitsu (8.5) stans...for the most part! ‘I never paid this too much attention but goddamn it's a bop. The bubblegum production and lyrics are everything. The breakdown at the end should've been kept, though.’
Michael17 (9.5) was also not a fan of the ending: Refreshing and exhilarating. Perfect blend of Charli and PC Music. Like being in a video game. Excellent modernized Europop. The ending is really off-putting, though
Bangers&Bops (9.5) serving you music theory for ya nerve: One of my absolute favorites from this album. What stops it from getting a 10 is the structure of the song. It really needs a middle eight and a third chorus to make it more complete. At this point, I think this is one of my favorite SOPHIE productions. The bouncy beat is so addictive.
Kuhleezi (10) and ha follicles would like to personally thank miss SOPHIE for doing...that, I guess: God bless SOPHIE. That outro is hair removal goals.
GimmeWork (10) introduces me to 'pre-gaming', which sounds fucking lit: The first time I hear this I thought: What kind of club-ready magic is this?!?! Still listen to this song almost every weekend when I'm pre-gaming for the club! LOVE IT!
69. Charli XCX - Roll With Me
Average: 7.19
High: 11 x 1 (@RUNAWAY) 10 x 10 (@enjoy @Sanctuary @JapaneseJesus @Petty Mayonnaise @GimmeWork @Joe. @Bolton @tylerc904 @Kuhleezi @Heaven on Earth)
Low: 1.5 x 1 (@A&E)
My score: 7.5
10 voters in: 28 - ddd FUCK
20 voters in: 49
30 voters in: 45
40 voters in: 48
50 voters in: 61
60 voters in: 63
Forget the SOPHIE-produced beat drop, let's talk about how this fell from #28 to #69, I audibly gagged. As you can see above, this got the most 10s in the rate so far - unfortunately, all but one was received in the first half of voting. A sea of 3-5s in the later stages plus that lethal 1.5 in a rate with generally 6+ scores and, like I mentioned in the top 70 summary, incredibly close averages, was all it took to tank it. I can see a lot of y'all throwing hands about this so cut I'm excited for the oncoming messery.
I have to be honest...this isn't my favourite track on N1A. I much prefer White Roses (which is already out), so I wasn't devastated to see this out already. I adore the verses, which have the fizzy dance sensibility of Wynter Gordon's iconic Dirty Talk, and I also love the breathy pre-chorus. It goes a bit downhill when we get to the post-chorus, which gets a bit repetitive for me. The signature SOPHIE warped, dirty bubblegum, RIP-headphone-users production only really works for men some of the time (buy and stream 'Ponyboy' NOW!). Overall, this is not my favourite on the mixtape but my have I underscored it slightly.
Despite not being involved with this track, A.G. Cook gave some commentary in his N1A track-by-track:
I wasn't involved with this track, but it had been floating around for a while, and was one of the demos that Charli and Sophie worked on after Soph moved to LA. There are some really beautiful songs that they made around this time, and the work they're capable of doing together is amazing. I remember how impressed Sophie was with Charli after they'd written a few songs together, and vice versa. Both of them create music from a very deep, almost physical place - it's really not an intellectual exercise in the way that it's sometimes made out to be... and I can prove it!! :P
I ended up doing an edit of Roll With Me for the mixtape shows that Charli & I played, and it became the intro for the whole set. My tactic was to force my own very dense chords over the 'dark' bassline from the drop - chords that shouldn't really be there (!) In my mind I was also referencing the way that Sophie and I have tended to write music together - where I push myself to find these very dense/beautiful chords that can squeeze between and match all the dense/beautiful sound design taking shape.
And here's what y'all had to say:
Trouble in Paradise (3.5) did not wake up feeling positive: I was really feeling this until the chorus. Yeahy yeahy yeah is a let down. ddd what a sentence.
kalonite (4.5): Honestly, the most enjoyment I get out of this song was when I looked up the lyrics and just got lost in a sea of the word "Yeah"
AshleyKerwin (5.5) goes tf IN and denounces it as ‘bad dated EDM’ that ‘sounds like it's from a roller coaster video.’ Okay but roller coaster video music can pop off at times...
Bleedingheart80 (6) keeps it blunt: Too repetitive, not a fan of the music/beat.
happiestgirl (6) wasn’t pleased with the way the song progresses: The beginning is great but it turns into a bit of a mess at the end.
sfmartin (8) it's CHARLI, it's CHARLI, baby... 'Such an inventive production. Charlie and SOPHIE are a such a good match.'
Even Charli hater mokitsu (8.5) stans...for the most part! ‘I never paid this too much attention but goddamn it's a bop. The bubblegum production and lyrics are everything. The breakdown at the end should've been kept, though.’
Michael17 (9.5) was also not a fan of the ending: Refreshing and exhilarating. Perfect blend of Charli and PC Music. Like being in a video game. Excellent modernized Europop. The ending is really off-putting, though
Bangers&Bops (9.5) serving you music theory for ya nerve: One of my absolute favorites from this album. What stops it from getting a 10 is the structure of the song. It really needs a middle eight and a third chorus to make it more complete. At this point, I think this is one of my favorite SOPHIE productions. The bouncy beat is so addictive.
Kuhleezi (10) and ha follicles would like to personally thank miss SOPHIE for doing...that, I guess: God bless SOPHIE. That outro is hair removal goals.
GimmeWork (10) introduces me to 'pre-gaming', which sounds fucking lit: The first time I hear this I thought: What kind of club-ready magic is this?!?! Still listen to this song almost every weekend when I'm pre-gaming for the club! LOVE IT!
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Oh wow, what a mess.
