Disney
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Melissa showed up knowing exactly what needed to be done. Goes to show just how amazing she is when not working with her husband.
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Disney is pulling a Warner Bros and removing a bunch of titles from their Hulu/Disney+ catalog. I’m shocked they are removing the Howard Ashman documentary… right before The Little Mermaid live action film comes out… which I think is awful. Especially since it’s a documentary about a gay man who was so influential and made/shaped most of the Disney’s Animation Renaissance in the late 80s and early 90s.
I expect they'll put it back up when the live action Little Mermaid hits Disney+. It'll probably get more attention then.
In all honestly, they were foolish to bust open the Vault and put everything up at once because it left them nowhere to go but to have to keep making new content. The Disney Vault concept served them brilliantly for 30-40 years - I've no idea why they chose to drop the idea for Disney+.
He/Him
I believe it’s being taken down the day the movie comes out which is awful timing since that movie is using all his hard work all while disrespecting his life story and all he did for them. Right before Pride Month kicks in too…
Also, I think you are confusing the classic Disney Vault with what they are doing. They are removing them for tax purposes and to save money. Also the Vault was used to sell multiple versions of VHS/DVD. Streaming doesn’t act like that and it makes no sense to reintroduce that idea.
Subscriber churn is a huge issue for streaming services, so it makes more sense to have a model where titles are released over time and not all at once. The Disney Vault also made titles seem more special and it was more of an event when they were re-issued. It's a good way of keeping subscribers on board and minimising churn.
No, it’s not. This isn’t the Disney Vault. This is them removing titles because they don’t want to pay people properly - even though they’re a multi-media dollar corporation. Scrapping the Howard doc (during Pride month! And when a film is being released that literally would not exist without him!) speaks entirely to how their focus is greed and profits, not curating a quality library for their subscribers.
And also, revolving content is not what makes a good streaming service. Absolutely nobody thinks, oh good [my favourite show] has been removed thank goodness! At least it will be back in a year! This is really good for me the consumer.
Framing this as beneficial to subscribers and not as corporate greed is just … factually incorrect.
They/Them
Granted I have only listened to Poor Unfortunate Souls, but have they removed the line about body language? That was always one of my favourite parts of the song.
Changing Ashman's lyrics, the remake director insinuating the original 'Kiss The Girl' lyrics were predatory, removing the documentary.
I'm livid. And I don't forget that Iger was the guy who cancelled Ellen's sitcom after she came out and the backlash started
I'm livid. And I don't forget that Iger was the guy who cancelled Ellen's sitcom after she came out and the backlash started
At no point did I suggest it's beneficial to subscribers. I'm talking about it being beneficial to subscriber numbers. Of course it's corporate greed. Whether that works in terms of subscriber loyalty in the long term is another question.
As far as the Howard doc is concerned, I would hope it'll come back side by side with the live action Little Mermaid to give it even more exposure, but if it doesn't, that would be a travesty.
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But this is removing flop shows so they don’t have to continue paying what limited residuals to have them up because they (probably rightly) believe these aren’t bringing in new subscribers. It’s not about trying to recreate the vault.
The Disney Vault existed in a time for home video rentals and a notion of legitimate scarcity before the digital age. It's context is tied to that and the decline of their cinematic rereleases. I guess the closest they've done recently was taking Avatar/Titanic off for periods while they had rereleases (which I suspect was more down to James Cameron having a deal with Fox to prevent streaming of his movies while they play in theatres).
This is just yanking off old content because they can't be arsed paying residuals on the content they produced. But I will allow myself righteous fury over this when they spent decades up to literally this year profiting off Song of the South characters in their theme parks.
This is just yanking off old content because they can't be arsed paying residuals on the content they produced. But I will allow myself righteous fury over this when they spent decades up to literally this year profiting off Song of the South characters in their theme parks.
How is this so incredibly good when the lyrics are just "la da de la da da"
Little Mermaid has only taken in $4k in presales for the whole of release weekend in China. That's $4k, not $4M. The industry is forecasting a truly wretched opening weekend there.
Which, while not a surprise from China, is just awful. I hope it overperforms everywhere else and gets to a billion if it's as good as the initial reactions are saying it is.
I've got to say, I've listened to Halle's Part of Your World a lot now, and it's just spectacular. And the Reprise gave me goosebumps. She really nailed it.
Which, while not a surprise from China, is just awful. I hope it overperforms everywhere else and gets to a billion if it's as good as the initial reactions are saying it is.
I've got to say, I've listened to Halle's Part of Your World a lot now, and it's just spectacular. And the Reprise gave me goosebumps. She really nailed it.
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Halle really is a perfect Ariel vocally, I’m so happy listening to the soundtrack, the reprise got me all over again!
Melissa is better than I expected but yeah…
Melissa is better than I expected but yeah…
:/ the reads about humanity being taken out of Poor Unfortunate Souls...................lin-manuel miranda please stay out of gay people's business.