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Mvnl

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It may be because I'm not particularly attached to the original (Disney pretty much lost me between Mulan & Tangled) but something about Lilo & Stitch always gave me 'didn't need to be animated in the first place/could have been real life + a puppet if they had the means to do it', so it doesn't bother me as much.
(Guess that's mostly because the setting is very grounded in 'the real world'. Which I know is a silly argument, cause there's much more to animation than 'could we do this without animation? Then it's not needed', but for me the original always felt like the animated version of what could have been a regular late 90s/early 00s film.
 
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It may be because I'm not particularly attached to the original (Disney pretty much lost me between Mulan & Tangled) but something about Lilo & Stitch always gave me 'didn't need to be animated in the first place/could have been real life + a puppet if they had the means to do it', so it doesn't bother me as much.
(Guess that's mostly because the setting is very grounded in 'the real world'. Which I know is a silly argument, cause there's much more to animation than 'could we do this without animation? Then it's not needed', but for me the original always felt like the animated version of what could have been a regular late 90s/early 00s film.
I don't think it would work as a live action film made in the late 90's/early 00's but that's a personal opinion of mine. The way animation can truly be used to create something special, which is something all the live action films have proved. Animation allows for artists to truly create something special looking and not be limited in the ways live action is. I'd even say Disney's 3D films don't even hold a candle to their 2D films. If you put Frozen next to Lilo and Stitch -- the latter wins.

I think the greatest thing about the film was that it was the "B" film that was worked on at Disney, with a much lower budget and not much oversight at their Florida studio. Disney was banking on Treasure Planet to be the big "hit" (which underperformed) and didn't really expect much with Lilo and Stitch. The style was so specific for Disney and it also brought back watercolor backgrounds - something not done at Disney since Dumbo, as it's not a very forgiving medium to use. It was also a masterclass in promoting something new in a very interesting/unique way. I also hold it very close to my heart because it was the film that got me back into drawing and made me go into animation as a career.

 

Mvnl

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Treasure Planet is incredible and it’s a travesty that it’s so overlooked.
I will say it still looked pretty good (apart from the slight disconnect between the obvious 3d elements vs the traditional animation) but for me it was just a bit too 'catered to boys' I think (including fart jokes, nn)
 
I will say it still looked pretty good (apart from the slight disconnect between the obvious 3d elements vs the traditional animation) but for me it was just a bit too 'catered to boys' I think (including fart jokes, nn)
Fart jokes are hilarious, you can’t tell me otherwise.
 
As much as I despise the live action remakes with every fibre of my being, I have to admit that Treasure Planet and Atlantis remakes could excite me.

The sci-fi/adventure aspects of them would work beautifully as huge budget movies. And tie in nicely with the renewed interest in properties like Dune, Avatar etc.
 
As much as I despise the live action remakes with every fibre of my being, I have to admit that Treasure Planet and Atlantis remakes could excite me.

The sci-fi/adventure aspects of them would work beautifully as huge budget movies. And tie in nicely with the renewed interest in properties like Dune, Avatar etc.
Seriously one of my all time favourite movies. I remember seeing it in the cinema with my parents and Great Aunt, and ever since she passed away we watch it every year on her birthday as a means to honour her.

A few years ago I've had said Joseph Gordon Levitt would be a perfect Milo, but maybe he's too old now. Someone like Jack Quaid could do a great job though.
 
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The late 90's to early 2000's Disney films are some of my favorites. Hercules, Mulan, Atlantis, Emperors New Groove and Lilo and Stitch are all so good! I love Tarzan and Treasure Planet too but I'm not sure if it's up there with those. I think Hercules and Lilo and Stitch are probably some of the most beautiful films they've ever done... visual masterpieces that really had a style to them.

I do really find it absurd that they made Home on the Range though. Who wanted to see that movie? Who was it for? Was it any good?
 
I am a Disney gay through and through, the animated movies were my first contact with musical theater etc. but even I am so exhausted by the constant cash-in sequels and prequels. I adore the original Lion King and the stage musical+score but who needed the live action remake and another prequel. I guess Disney was always like this except the quickie sequels used to go straight to video. I am just a little salty Moana 2 will severely cut into Wicked.
 
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Moana 2 feels like an attempt to snatch the 'lost' box office for the original that did FAR better on Disney+ than it did on its OG theatrical run. It being an upgraded streaming series does seem to be obvious from the reviews (visuals aside)
 
I feel like Moana is going to do big money regardless of the tomatoes score. Similar to Mario.
For sure. I'm more worried about Lion King if only for the marketing feeling...off. the lack of songs in the trailers and general confusing vibe isn't helping, and Sonic 3 will put up a decent fight on opening weekend for kids attention
 

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