Diva Fever appreciation.

JonBcn

JonBcn

I understand that, and you're absolutely right, but in the case of Diva Fever, I think they're being 100% genuine; that's who they are. It would be equally homophobic to think "we can't put them on the telly, they reinforce all kinds of negative stereotypes".

But I think it's a positive thing that their campness (not to be confused with sexuality - what seems to offend is their demeanour rather than their sexual preference) provokes this very debate. It seems that for a lot of people it's absolutely fine to be gay, but not to express yourself in certain ways that people might find off-putting.

I take the point that the average Neaderthal watching might think that this is a snapshot of how a typical gay man behaves all day long, but I can't really imaging Diva Fever butching up to compensate for that...
 
BeingBoring

BeingBoring

I LOVE DIVA FEVER.

Although, I did imagine that they'd be made a bit 'darker', Adam Lambert-like almost.... but the whole rainbow mirrorball and disco thing didn't really surprise me at all.
 
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Tommie

Numerology said:
I would go as far as to call it homophobic, but it was a bit like when my mum rang me up and in the middle of a perfectly pleasant conversation about uni asked me whether I was using protection because of all the anal sex I was having.
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I just died laughing.

I could stomach about three seconds of their performance.
 
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Maureen

They are absolutely terrible. But I don't think they portray a negative image if homosexuality at all. There are plenty of other butch Attitude magazine wank fantasies out there to balance them out.

Camp gays have as much right to be on TV as anyone else. But yes, they are dogshit to watch.
 
RhythmNative

RhythmNative

They seem like lovely blokes, which considering this is a series in which half the contestants scream "cunt", should be praised.

But why did one of them have his mic turned off?
 
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Tommie

Maureen said:
Camp gays have as much right to be on TV as anyone else.
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Oh, of course, but it all seems rather outdated, doesn't it? I mean, Scissor Sisters are quite camp, but manages to do it in a pop star way - these two just seem more fit for the local gay club when you're absolutely pissed out of your mind rather than the X-Factor stage.
 
mystical

mystical

Tommie said:
Maureen said:
Camp gays have as much right to be on TV as anyone else.
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Oh, of course, but it all seems rather outdated, doesn't it? I mean, Scissor Sisters are quite camp, but manages to do it in a pop star way - these two just seem more fit for the local gay club when you're absolutely pissed out of your mind rather than the X-Factor stage.
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ie lots of room for development.
 
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hotmess69

JonBcn said:
It seems that for a lot of people it's absolutely fine to be gay, but not to express yourself in certain ways that people might find off-putting.
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True that. I'm ebarassed by some of the gays in this topic. I bet the ones who hate Diva Fever are the same people who are scared by trannies and think bisexuality is just a layover on the way to gay town.

If you don't like DF because they can't sing and perform shite, fine, but if you're appaled by their clothes and their campness then you are the self-hating one.
 
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Yuke1976

All the glitter aside, one of them can actually sing!

It's a pity that Simon didn't bring them back to shwcase their potential talent. It's abvious that Simon brought them back for rating boost and for people to talk about the show.
 
Rogue

Rogue

I liked it! Don't think they'll survive tonight though.

However, I'd quite like them to disappears because i was told 3 TIMES last night that I looked like the ugly, draggy one. *MAULS OWN FACE*
 
brynismyname

brynismyname

hotmess69 said:
True that. I'm ebarassed by some of the gays in this topic. I bet the ones who hate Diva Fever are the same people who are scared by trannies and think bisexuality is just a layover on the way to gay town.

If you don't like DF because they can't sing and perform shite, fine, but if you're appaled by their clothes and their campness then you are the self-hating one.
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That's really offensive, to suggest that because I don't buy in to "gay culture" that I must be self-hating. I live happily with my partner, and am completely honest, accepting and happy with who I am. I think it's much less accepting of your sexuality to feel you have to hide away in a community and equate being gay with being camp and flamboyant to compensate for feeling that you don't fit into wider society.
 
undisco_me

undisco_me

Even though they are both from Manchester, the 'cute' one looks like a LOT of Glasgow homosexuals. Did the one that looks like a friendly lesbian babysitter have his mic turned off?
 
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OhYeah

brynismyname said:
That's really offensive, to suggest that because I don't buy in to "gay culture" that I must be self-hating. I live happily with my partner, and am completely honest, accepting and happy with who I am. I think it's much less accepting of your sexuality to feel you have to hide away in a community and equate being gay with being camp and flamboyant to compensate for feeling that you don't fit into wider society.
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If this were facebook, I would 'like' this comment.
 
undisco_me

undisco_me

OhYeah said:
brynismyname said:
That's really offensive, to suggest that because I don't buy in to "gay culture" that I must be self-hating. I live happily with my partner, and am completely honest, accepting and happy with who I am. I think it's much less accepting of your sexuality to feel you have to hide away in a community and equate being gay with being camp and flamboyant to compensate for feeling that you don't fit into wider society.
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If this were facebook, I would 'like' this comment.
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I don't. I think having to describe yourself in terms of what you are not can be quite dismissive - these guys are only representing themselves and seem to have a really nice friendship more than anything else. What is "gay culture" anyway? It doesn't exist. I don't particularly find these guys flamboyant (they looked very C&A if anyone remembers that store) and camp is a word that's just got no meaning anymore (it means artifice and masculinity is essentially construced surely) even if it can't exactly be argued that they are not (it just bores me that gay guys are either camp or not camp, that it's seen as so conclusive and all-enompassing, as a "culture" apparantly, or a full definition).
 
WowWowWowWow

WowWowWowWow

he/him
So I hate to even ask this question, because it implies I care a little too much but I thought the theme was #1 songs and was "Sunny" a UK #1? Or does it count because it was #1 in Germany?

Oh god, fine, I do care.
 
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