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Mvnl

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So erm.. I just watched the first 2 episodes from the 2005 series 1.
Is '90s children's tv like Are You Afraid Of The Dark/Girl From Tomorrow' the vibe they're going for in a nostalgic way, including (deliberately?) bad special effects for camping it up, or is that just it being 2005?
I feel like I want to like it but the episodic nature (thusfar) and the budgetness make me feel like... I'm missing why people love it so much?
 
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So erm.. I just watched the first 2 episodes from the 2005 series 1.
Is '90s children's tv like Are You Afraid Of The Dark/Girl From Tomorrow' the vibe they're going for in a nostalgic way, including (deliberately?) bad special effects for camping it up, or is that just it being 2005?
I feel like I want to like it but the episodic nature (thusfar) and the budgetness make me feel like... I'm missing why people love it so much?
Stay with it, as a lover of the series old and new, yeah, stay with it
 

Mvnl

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Stay with it, as a lover of the series old and new, yeah, stay with it
I was kinda expecting more of a continuous story/overall arch and going by the fans I know something more.. mature?
While in theory I (can) love things that make me feel like a kid again, and this has that kind of wonder/sillyness about it that I could see myself liking (I also had multiple moments of 'I would have found this so exciting/scary as a kid!' but thusfar it feels a bit like rewatching something you loved as a kid and going 'oh... was that what it was like? Hmm')
 
I was kinda expecting more of a continuous story/overall arch and going by the fans I know something more.. mature?
While in theory I (can) love things that make me feel like a kid again, and this has that kind of wonder/sillyness about it that I could see myself liking (I also had multiple moments of 'I would have found this so exciting/scary as a kid!' but thusfar it feels a bit like rewatching something you loved as a kid and going 'oh... was that what it was like? Hmm')

Russell had an incredibly difficult task making Doctor Who relevant to an entirely new audience. I think he got it right, especially given it was a Saturday night television show, and definitely feel and reads like it. Stick with it, Mvnl.
 
I 100% echo the 'stick with it' sentiment, but that is basically the formula from 2005 - 2010. From then on it stays standalone but the series become more intensely arc driven, until 2018 when it devolves into... it just devolves!

Series 1, 4, 5 and 9 of the reboot are widely regarded as the best, and the format is established early on. Effects definitely improve over time but not by a huge margin, and its not really the draw of the series. Stick with it by all means, but if by the end of series 1 you're not feeling it, I'm not sure that you ever will.
 
I 100% echo the 'stick with it' sentiment, but that is basically the formula from 2005 - 2010. From then on it stays standalone but the series become more intensely arc driven, until 2018 when it devolves into... it just devolves!

In some ways, yes, it isn't as tightly focused as the best of Russell and Steven. The dialogue isn't full of zippy one-liners and at times there's a first draft quality to some of it. But it makes up for it in a lot of other ways, including some of the best revamps of classic monsters, a genuinely joyous Doctor who felt like a breath of fresh air after years of the show trying too hard to have an edgy Doctor (and I say that as a fan of Peter Capaldi's incarnation even though he's 'Malcolm Tucker as The Doctor' in that first series), the finest historical stories since the Hartnell Era, and three of the best Dalek stories since Russell's era. The visuals are stunning, and some of the best-looking Who ever. Flux is pure fun too with fabulous, bitchy villains I adore. I love it even though it's insane at times. Actually, Flux is probably my favourite Who epic alongside Master Plan.
 
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Series 8 and 10 are alot better than 9, 12 and Flux were pretty impressive as well.

1, 4, 5, 10, Flux would be my pick a Season a Doctor to watch.

Yes, absolutely my take too. Fandom were so vicious towards Series 6,7, 8, and 9 at the time. The We Hate Clara brigade drowned social media. It was a lot. Now fans love it. Doctor Who is always in (pardon the pun) flux.
 
Series 8 and 10 are alot better than 9, 12 and Flux were pretty impressive as well.

1, 4, 5, 10, Flux would be my pick a Season a Doctor to watch.

Flux and 10 were cute... but cute next to gorgeous? I don't know about all that. 8 is underrated though, I recently did a rewatch and was kind of gagged. I love Mz Clara.

@Mvnl I've changed my mind. I'm at least begging you to stick with it until the end of the 2009 specials (Russell T Davies first era as showrunner). You need to meet Donna. And see Sarah Jane and the Cybermen in series 2. My inner child is begging you
 
But even the Sarah Jane Adventures’s CBBC budget looks better quality!

I think that entire period of Who has a sort of 2005 filter, which of course was pre-HD television. Not cheap, as such, but very of the time. Imagine what Russell can do now the technology has caught up to his vision.
 
I think, kind of ironically, a lot of the budget for Torchwood may have gone into filming in HD at a time when doing so was substantially more expensive and exceptional. And because of that they had less money to make filming in HD look worth it.
 
I think that entire period of Who has a sort of 2005 filter, which of course was pre-HD television. Not cheap, as such, but very of the time. Imagine what Russell can do now the technology has caught up to his vision.
Oh, for sure. Say what you want about the Chibnall era, but it's hard to deny that (extreme close-ups aside), it was a stunning era.
 
Oh, for sure. Say what you want about the Chibnall era, but it's hard to deny that (extreme close-ups aside), it was a stunning era.

That effect in Eve with the TARDIS unravelling is my favourite visual effect in Doctor Who. Gorgeous! I'm a big fan of The Whittaker Era, and though the faults of that period can be glaring, it somehow doesn't matter to me, just like the faults of previous eras. I suppose part of my spirit will always be that kid who loved Doctor Who more than anything and counted the days until The Doctor and Ace were on telly again.
 

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