And Part 2 is here!
Unfortunately @Christopher1985 they didn't record anything else other than "Higher"!
Unfortunately @Christopher1985 they didn't record anything else other than "Higher"!
Dream
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Wow! Thank you so much for asking my question, really appreciate it and it’s good to know the actual story behind all of this! Fascinating commentary!
Yes, this was the only song they released with no further songs from either albums being released.
It’s a shame as with further promotion they could have blown up bigger than they initially had.
Damn, that sucks. I hate they weren’t able to release more singles in general. Both “In My Dreams” and “When I Get There” being cancelled in the US is such a shame. Don’t get me started on the second album going unreleased (at least we have it, I guess).
I never realized that “He Loves U Not” only hit #17 in the UK, but it seems almost all of their 2001 promo was US based. Both singles had physical releases in Australia, but I have no idea how well they did there.
Unfortunately, the possibility of releasing further music from their debut album was curtailed due to events out of their control.
Although in the UK, they had released ‘He Loves You Not’ in March, Dream had a limited window of opportunity to promote as they were booked across various international territories. Australia was blowing up and they were still a huge deal in the US, coming off the back of a tour with NSync and gearing up to release their second single there, This is Me.
Due to the second singles success and the decision to release a remix feat Kain in typical fashion plus a Disney summer tour, it looked like the girls would not be promoting abroad anytime soon.
Unfortunately, plans were brought to an abrupt end with the events of September 11th. In My Dreams as a third single was cancelled (it even had a remix feat Bow Wow attached) and promotion of their first album halted.
Bad Boy Records as a label was based on New York and due to the horrific events, they had to relocate. Again, an unfortunate result was the girls being lost in the move and not placed as a high priority act. Nobody knew what to do with them and momentum was lost. Between September 2001 and March 2003, the girls recorded their sophomore album, Melissa left, Kasey joined and Bad Boy Records tried to push a sexier image upon them.
The record label was also to blame during this period as it had no experience of how to nurture a pop girl band. Neither being pushed on the pop radio or urban radio market this when Crazy was released, it bombed and soon after the band disbanded.
Promotion, especially in the UK was highly unlikely as events including poor management, label relocations and the messiness of P Duffy himself dictated that the girls remain in the USA with no further singles released.
Although in the UK, they had released ‘He Loves You Not’ in March, Dream had a limited window of opportunity to promote as they were booked across various international territories. Australia was blowing up and they were still a huge deal in the US, coming off the back of a tour with NSync and gearing up to release their second single there, This is Me.
Due to the second singles success and the decision to release a remix feat Kain in typical fashion plus a Disney summer tour, it looked like the girls would not be promoting abroad anytime soon.
Unfortunately, plans were brought to an abrupt end with the events of September 11th. In My Dreams as a third single was cancelled (it even had a remix feat Bow Wow attached) and promotion of their first album halted.
Bad Boy Records as a label was based on New York and due to the horrific events, they had to relocate. Again, an unfortunate result was the girls being lost in the move and not placed as a high priority act. Nobody knew what to do with them and momentum was lost. Between September 2001 and March 2003, the girls recorded their sophomore album, Melissa left, Kasey joined and Bad Boy Records tried to push a sexier image upon them.
The record label was also to blame during this period as it had no experience of how to nurture a pop girl band. Neither being pushed on the pop radio or urban radio market this when Crazy was released, it bombed and soon after the band disbanded.
Promotion, especially in the UK was highly unlikely as events including poor management, label relocations and the messiness of P Duffy himself dictated that the girls remain in the USA with no further singles released.
Which was so weird, wasn't Kasey like 15 when she joined?
Yes, only 15 at the age of signing, so possibly 16 when Crazy came out (give or take). When you look at the image pushed in that video, it definitely was dubious morally and such a departure from their clean-cut image.
Furthermore, when you compare the other songs on the album to Crazy, it is worlds away from the teen pop sound. Instead, they should have gone with That’s Ok, The Real Me, Hard to Stop or I Am Woman.
Other songs recorded during this era also fit better as part of the sophomore album, such as This Game, Keep on Dancing, Party With Us and I Go.
It's funny how the label really tried to push them as both a pop and R&B group. The R&B mix of He Loves U Not was pushed to urban radio in the US, and while I love that mix, no one was going to take them seriously as anything other than a teen pop act at the time.
I saw so many parallels between them and 3LW back in the day. Both were all over MTV, as well as Disney and Nickelodeon, both of their debut albums sold very well off of the first two singles, both albums' third singles were scrapped, both of their second albums were much more R&B sounding, and they both lost a member between albums (under very different circumstances). It seems in hindsight both groups' management teams wanted to grow them up too fast, based off of what members have said. It was sad watching both groups crumble after being out-of-the-gate successes. Plus, both groups had mad chemistry. Even if the vocals in Dream were 95% Holly, each member still felt essential.
I saw so many parallels between them and 3LW back in the day. Both were all over MTV, as well as Disney and Nickelodeon, both of their debut albums sold very well off of the first two singles, both albums' third singles were scrapped, both of their second albums were much more R&B sounding, and they both lost a member between albums (under very different circumstances). It seems in hindsight both groups' management teams wanted to grow them up too fast, based off of what members have said. It was sad watching both groups crumble after being out-of-the-gate successes. Plus, both groups had mad chemistry. Even if the vocals in Dream were 95% Holly, each member still felt essential.
When I invite my friends out for karaoke.
I am happy for you to take lead, I’ll just turn up and take all the ‘Jenny Frost’ spoken interludes and ‘Vicky B’ moments and act like a pure diva living the Dream (feat P. Diddy)!
It first surfaced in about 2005 on the French MP3 download store VirginMega.fr. Someone bought it there and leaked it. It was later on released on iTunes around 2008 and was subsequently on streaming for a while before getting pulled. As far as I know there was no full CD or promo although I have seen plenty of bootlegs of the latter.
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I've decided that I am finally going to branch out beyond evergreen banger He Loves U Not with them. The cover art for those unreleased albums...Clockwork Entertainment did these girls so dirty
This easily could've been the 4th single. I love this song
There were so many potential singles on that album. It's a shame things kept falling apart after "This is Me."
Reality is a frustratingly good album.
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Imagine my chagrin knowing it'd been online since 2008 only to find out that it was yanked from streaming for no reason once I finally get around to doing so dd