I heard them in a 'Radical Optimism without label interference thread' and everyone was saying AI. Also we need to just accept it's the album she wanted and the label probably didn't interfere at all kii.
Dua Lipa - Radical Optimism
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It’s funny the way we’re kinda led to believe that RO was a complete flop and CC was this huge success.
I do think that her being a bit more active and touring has definitely helped, whereas Bey kinda dropped the album and then dipped
Bey had a really strong first week and scored a number 1 single so that paints the era a bit better than Dua who never really had a single week of major success. That said, both of these albums have ridiculously low streams for the non-singles.
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Ultimately comparing the twos streaming numbers is apples to oranges. Dua was one of the original streaming girlies while streaming is just another change Beyoncé has navigated in her long career.
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I think the difference is doing really well in one country (and that country is the biggest music market in the world) vs doing poorly to moderate in several tiny countries.
Now why is St. Vincent in it?
Lol both Radical optimism and CCarter are doing terribly at the moment. Both at the bottom of the UK top 200 and not even doing 1000 a week from streams, thats terrible but thats what happens when you abandon album on release day. Billie or Brat are still doing more than 6K a week and top 10.
Abandoning the album accusations and lumping Dua in with Beyoncé in terms of promo is a little harsh to her (/making a bit of an excuse for the album performance) no? She did Glastonbury, gave us 3 music videos recently did a Tiny Desk set and has a Royal Albert live version of the album coming out soon
Sure, she could and probably should have tried another single at least in the UK but, people also just weren’t really there for the material this time around, and she likely didn’t want to waste too much public goodwill (and radio goodwill in the States) when the bits of promo she did weren’t catching on anyway.
Yeah but that doesn't mean much, after all Katy Perry, supposedly the biggest flop in the world, still regularly out-streams Bey on Spotify, ARTPOP out-streams Lemonade, "Poker Face" out-streams the whole of Renaissance, her last IFPI entry with a global hit was "Telephone" in 2010 etc. But Beyoncé has won this narrative war that "she's in her imperial era!!!" for the past decade despite whatever bombs commercially, so it's really quite an achievement.
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@Thu Ra Aung Kyaw how did you enjoy it?
I had a really great time! Which zone were you in? I didn’t have the early access so I had to queue for like 6 hours and how they were handling STA zone was so bad that me and a group of friends kept getting cut off. I have only been to two concerts and they were Kpop concerts which were super organised with queue numbers and such so this was all very new to me. I secured barricade in the end though. I’ll post some vids here.
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