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Early 2000s Rock Chicks Rate - [WINNER + Voter Averages]

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by slaybellz, Mar 1, 2021.

  1. #40

    Jennifer Love Hewitt - BareNaked



    Score: 7.381

    My Score: 8.5
    Highest: 10 x 6 (@berserkboi, @saviodxl, @unnameable, @Slice of Life, @Robsolete, @Music Is Death)
    Lowest: 3 x 1 (@Blond) 4 x 1 (@Guy) 4.5 x 1 (@Sprockrooster)

    BareNaked is the lead single to Jennifer's fourth and final album of the same name (co-written and produced by Meredith Brooks, cool!) It was released in 2002 and charted at #124 in the US.

    Although, most people probably know Jennifer Love Hewitt for her acting career, music was actually her first love. At the age of 10, she moved to Los Angeles to pursue a music career, but instead rose to prominence as an actress in commercials and on the 80s children's tv series Kids Incorporated (alongside co-stars such as Fergie and Martika). Since then she's released four studio albums and some singles here and there for soundtracks of movies and shows she appeared in like How Do I Deal from I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, which was released in 1998 (to answer your question @livefrommelbs dd).

    @Memoria (6) - I have no memory of Jennifer Love Hewitt ever having a music career. But hearing this, I wouldn't be surprised if I did actually know about it, but just forgot.

    @Sprockrooster (4.5) - She sounds bored?

    @livefrommelbs (8) - Where's 'How Do I Deal'?! Anyway, this is a cutie.

    @DJHazey (6.5) - I feel bad giving my Mom’s favorite actress such mediocre scores, don’t tell her! I vaguely remember seeing this on TRL some time after loving her in I Know What You Did Last Summer (and stanning her) with my first reaction being LOL. I don’t know if I’ve ever taken it seriously since, I can’t help it. (By the way my Mom stans her because of Ghost Whisperer and Hallmark movies, so yeah your prototypical Mom)

    @unnameable (10) - Oh sweet PJ00s entry of mine that flopped. I love JLH’s music.

    @berserkboi (10) - I know this is technically weaker than my other 10s but I stanned so hard at the time, Barenaked must get its full score!

    @saviodxl (10) - Jlove deserved better! But I guess when she emerged the pop-rock girls market was already saturated.

    @Epic Chocolat (8.5) - How many times am I gonna have the chance to rate this bop? The time is now, carpe diem! With the songwriting help of a 90s rock chick, Meredith Brooks, Love was "the moment" however fleeting this moment was.

  2. Wow, I really thought BareNaked had been her first and only album, I had no idea she had released that many.
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  3. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    BareNaked is great and deserved better than this.
  4. What? I had no idea! I've never heard of this show or whatsoever.

    EDIT: why did I google that?
    Time did her well!

    I co sign that!

    But you! You gained points with me!
  5. This is f*cked up!!
  6. God, I must have been fullyclothed when I was giving out my score to Barenaked.
  7. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    Fully clothed? In a pandemic?

    *remembers where you live*

    Ah. I blame your government for actually managing it properly and letting you out of the house. Actually wearing trousers has been an optional activity for me for the last year.
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    Fefe Dobson - Everything



    Score: 7.451

    My Score: 9
    Highest: 10 x 3 (@Pineapple, @ohnostalgia, @Music Is Death)
    Lowest: 3.5 x 1 (@Verandi) 4 x 1 (@soratami)

    Everything was the third single from Fefe's self titled debut album. It was released in 2004 and is the only single from her debut to miss the Canadian Singles Chart, it did however peak at #42 in the UK.

    The song is best known for being featured in the 2004 film The Perfect Score and its soundtrack, alongside another one of her album tracks Unforgiven.

    @saviodxl (6) - Maybe because I wasn't familiar with her, she sounds a bit too basic to me. In this song at least she does.

    @DJHazey (6.75) - I’ve always leaned towards this being one of Fefe’s less-than-interesting singles, the ‘la-da-da-ay-yo’ kind of captures it really - the sound of me nonchalantly going "okay, it’s fine...but are we done yet?"

    @berserkboi (7) - Nice but not quite an 8.

    @Sprockrooster (7) - It is giving me a bit Under The Bridge and in my book that is a good thing.

    @Memoria (9) - Anthemic, yet sentimental. Pretty much what all the best Early 2000s Rock Chicks do so well.

    @Pineapple (10) - Fefe deserved a huge international career and this is why. Love.

  9. Everything is a glorified B-side but I am screaming at the video? It's both terrible and genius.
  10. Sad they couldn't launch Fefe in the UK. She had all the right ingredients to be huge & I love Everything.
  11. I am disowning them.
  12. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    The video is one of the best things about Everything. I actually thought this would be the first Fefe track to go as her other two serve pop rock excellence while Everything is really just pop, but .... I refuse to speak about That Incident.

    On the topic of Ashlee, I actually gave La La a much higher score than Pieces of Me. I remember being so hot and cold over La La back when I was a teen, but I think it matches her vocals and personality a lot more than Pieces of Me. It certainly is a much better vibe for this rate. Also the music video is still seared in my mind.
  13. "Everything" is great, but it's my least favourite song by Fefe featured here (and therefore should've been the first one to vacate out of the three). It's a bit too basic compared to the other two, though I still enjoy it to some extent.
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  14. My highest Fefe score remains! She can take it Top 30, maybe even Top 20 - I don’t mind!
  15. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    Oh and was it @Verandi who asked why so many prominent Canadian singers stay local? These are my opinions:
    • Canadians pride ourselves on having a flourishing music industry. You’ll see this in both the creation of CanCon broadcasting rules (every radio station must play a certain percentage of Canadian songs per day), and all the Canada arts grants you see at the end of Canadian music videos. The purpose of CanCon and these grants is to make sure Canadians maintain a cultural identity that is not completely assimilated by the US.

    • In the 2000s, besides Avril Lavigne, I’d argue that Canada was most well known for its independent music scene (think Arcade Fire, Tegan & Sara, Stars, Broken Social Scene, Metric). Many of these artists are very successful in the US and overseas, but as with most independent music it’s not going to chart well. This leads to a skewed view of how many Canadian artists go beyond local status.
    • Like @slaybellz said, why bother pushing for other markets when you can make all your money at home? And now, well you can go viral on streaming and be known anywhere in the world. This actually happened with indie band Mother Mother recently- one of their old songs became a tik tok sensation.
    • You might have noticed that most (major label) Canadian artists who make it big outside of Canada are extremely successful (Nickelback, Avril, Drake, Alanis, The Weeknd, Shania Twain, Bieber etc). A lot of money is invested in them and I believe the major labels are happy to take those wins and not give any money to other acts to try and break the US.
    I’ll leave it here for now.
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2021
  16. Stan Canada!!!

  17. I find the whole concept of CanCon fascinating to be honest. Like it's something I resented as a teen because I thought certain acts were forced onto us and were only successful because of it. But on the other hand I totally understand why something like that is needed in this country. Not only to "preserve our Canadian identity" or whatever but also just to give Canadian artists a fighting chance at success.

    I was actually wondering recently if other countries had similar programs. Like I saw a series of tweets recently from Belgians going off on someone for saying Belgium singer Angele was from France, and that France was always "stealing" their artists. Then I thought of other possible countries who could have a similar dynamic like New Zealand and Australia maybe?
  18. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    China banned K-Pop, K-Drama, etc for two years. It was called the Hallyu Ban. They also banned idols from performing or promoting in China and I believe this is still in effect (although with COVID-19 who knows if idols would even go to China). I know BTS applied and were denied recently.

    While there were probably unrelated political reasons that instigated the ban, it’s possible China also felt threatened by Korean culture. I wonder about other Asian countries that don’t have a strong entertainment industry like Japan or India do. Maybe @Slice of Life has some thoughts on this?
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2021
  19. It all started because of this. China’s response to Korea installing THAAD was basically to be petty af.
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