Early 2000s Rock Chicks Rate
- Thread starter slaybellz
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Wow, I really thought BareNaked had been her first and only album, I had no idea she had released that many.
londonrain
Staff member
BareNaked is great and deserved better than this.
What? I had no idea! I've never heard of this show or whatsoever.
EDIT: why did I google that?
Time did her well!
I co sign that!
But you! You gained points with me!
He/Him
This is f*cked up!!
God, I must have been fullyclothed when I was giving out my score to Barenaked.
londonrain
Staff member
Fully clothed? In a pandemic?
*remembers where you live*
Ah. I blame your government for actually managing it properly and letting you out of the house. Actually wearing trousers has been an optional activity for me for the last year.
#39
Fefe Dobson - Everything
14/24
Score: 7.451
My Score: 9
Highest: 10 x 3 (@Pineapple, @ohnostalgia, @Music Is Death)
Lowest: 3.5 x 1 (@Verandi) 4 x 1 (@soratami)
Everything was the third single from Fefe's self titled debut album. It was released in 2004 and is the only single from her debut to miss the Canadian Singles Chart, it did however peak at #42 in the UK.
The song is best known for being featured in the 2004 film The Perfect Score and its soundtrack, alongside another one of her album tracks Unforgiven.
@saviodxl (6) - Maybe because I wasn't familiar with her, she sounds a bit too basic to me. In this song at least she does.
@DJHazey (6.75) - I’ve always leaned towards this being one of Fefe’s less-than-interesting singles, the ‘la-da-da-ay-yo’ kind of captures it really - the sound of me nonchalantly going "okay, it’s fine...but are we done yet?"
@berserkboi (7) - Nice but not quite an 8.
@Sprockrooster (7) - It is giving me a bit Under The Bridge and in my book that is a good thing.
@Memoria (9) - Anthemic, yet sentimental. Pretty much what all the best Early 2000s Rock Chicks do so well.
@Pineapple (10) - Fefe deserved a huge international career and this is why. Love.
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Sad they couldn't launch Fefe in the UK. She had all the right ingredients to be huge & I love Everything.
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I am disowning them.
ohnostalgia
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She/her
The video is one of the best things about Everything. I actually thought this would be the first Fefe track to go as her other two serve pop rock excellence while Everything is really just pop, but .... I refuse to speak about That Incident.
On the topic of Ashlee, I actually gave La La a much higher score than Pieces of Me. I remember being so hot and cold over La La back when I was a teen, but I think it matches her vocals and personality a lot more than Pieces of Me. It certainly is a much better vibe for this rate. Also the music video is still seared in my mind.
He/Him
My highest Fefe score remains! She can take it Top 30, maybe even Top 20 - I don’t mind!
ohnostalgia
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She/her
Oh and was it @Verandi who asked why so many prominent Canadian singers stay local? These are my opinions:
- Canadians pride ourselves on having a flourishing music industry. You’ll see this in both the creation of CanCon broadcasting rules (every radio station must play a certain percentage of Canadian songs per day), and all the Canada arts grants you see at the end of Canadian music videos. The purpose of CanCon and these grants is to make sure Canadians maintain a cultural identity that is not completely assimilated by the US.
- In the 2000s, besides Avril Lavigne, I’d argue that Canada was most well known for its independent music scene (think Arcade Fire, Tegan & Sara, Stars, Broken Social Scene, Metric). Many of these artists are very successful in the US and overseas, but as with most independent music it’s not going to chart well. This leads to a skewed view of how many Canadian artists go beyond local status.
- Like @slaybellz said, why bother pushing for other markets when you can make all your money at home? And now, well you can go viral on streaming and be known anywhere in the world. This actually happened with indie band Mother Mother recently- one of their old songs became a tik tok sensation.
- You might have noticed that most (major label) Canadian artists who make it big outside of Canada are extremely successful (Nickelback, Avril, Drake, Alanis, The Weeknd, Shania Twain, Bieber etc). A lot of money is invested in them and I believe the major labels are happy to take those wins and not give any money to other acts to try and break the US.
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I find the whole concept of CanCon fascinating to be honest. Like it's something I resented as a teen because I thought certain acts were forced onto us and were only successful because of it. But on the other hand I totally understand why something like that is needed in this country. Not only to "preserve our Canadian identity" or whatever but also just to give Canadian artists a fighting chance at success.
I was actually wondering recently if other countries had similar programs. Like I saw a series of tweets recently from Belgians going off on someone for saying Belgium singer Angele was from France, and that France was always "stealing" their artists. Then I thought of other possible countries who could have a similar dynamic like New Zealand and Australia maybe?
ohnostalgia
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She/her
China banned K-Pop, K-Drama, etc for two years. It was called the Hallyu Ban. They also banned idols from performing or promoting in China and I believe this is still in effect (although with COVID-19 who knows if idols would even go to China). I know BTS applied and were denied recently.
While there were probably unrelated political reasons that instigated the ban, it’s possible China also felt threatened by Korean culture. I wonder about other Asian countries that don’t have a strong entertainment industry like Japan or India do. Maybe @Slice of Life has some thoughts on this?
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It all started because of this. China’s response to Korea installing THAAD was basically to be petty af.
