EastEnders
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So yeah the behind the scenes episode on BBC3 had it confirmed the Whacker was indeed Kathy.
It was a really fun episode apart from Kathy being Cindy's attacker. If it were another time I would think Cindy pushing Ian into the path of a car would signal the end of her, but I just don't think they'd kill her off after only just resurrecting her.
They're too careful with the show's legacy nowadays and the rash decision to kill R&R because they'd written Ronnie into a corner will be brought up any time killing a big character is suggested. I'd rather see Cindy isolated after this and have a storyline that completely deconstructs her character before redeeming her.
Likewise with any other big characters dying. Sonia and Martin essentially have plot armour at this point. Natalie Cassidy will be back. Martin will probably be marrying Stacey within a year. I can see Ruby, Reiss and maybe one more death this week (prayer circle Callum gets his head caved in by burning debris).
They're too careful with the show's legacy nowadays and the rash decision to kill R&R because they'd written Ronnie into a corner will be brought up any time killing a big character is suggested. I'd rather see Cindy isolated after this and have a storyline that completely deconstructs her character before redeeming her.
Likewise with any other big characters dying. Sonia and Martin essentially have plot armour at this point. Natalie Cassidy will be back. Martin will probably be marrying Stacey within a year. I can see Ruby, Reiss and maybe one more death this week (prayer circle Callum gets his head caved in by burning debris).
Excellent episode, I gasped so many times - the gunshot, Ian being shoved in front of the car, the explosion (which looked spectacular, the upstairs collapsing was amazing). Every bit of drama being caused by Cindy - if she does die tomorrow she's gone out on a high, but really hope that doesn't happen.
I thought that episode was kinda....awful dddd. Yes it was very entertaining I suppose, but the writing was so shoddy it was ridiculous. I mean, Ian being actually shot in his kitchen but then walking around trying to do a deal with Cindy, Bianca and Reiss having a chase scene in the Square with absolutely no living soul around (during a wedding party no less), George and Ian watching the Vic start to burn but carrying on having a chat about how Ian should leave Cindy alone.
Also, the acting between Cindy, Kathy and Ian all episode....hammy doesn't begin to cover it. I agree that Michelle Collins has clearly decided that this needs to be a comedic, rather than dramatic, storyline, it's the only explanation.
But I'm obviously dying to see the fallout from the Vic exploding.
Also, the acting between Cindy, Kathy and Ian all episode....hammy doesn't begin to cover it. I agree that Michelle Collins has clearly decided that this needs to be a comedic, rather than dramatic, storyline, it's the only explanation.
But I'm obviously dying to see the fallout from the Vic exploding.
Michelle Collins screaming ‘I KNEW IT’ at every reveal was hilarious.
Copium but telling myself that despite being confirmed to be Kathy on the Revealed after show it'll turn out she was covering for Peter who is covering for Cindy Jr ❤️
Hoping the deaths are Reiss, Ruby and any other deadweight such as Gobshite Penny, Freddie, Callum etc they can all go!
When I saw Penny at the Vic tonight I was like "oh she still exists".
Happy Anniversary Day!
I feel like she was the first real ‘soap superstar’ and her ambitions outside of the show caused problems. Wanting to dip in and out around her own schedule.
Matthew Robinson spoke about Martine’s departure from the show in 2010
“Martine McCutcheon didn’t “decide to leave the show”. She demanded the BBC allow her to come and go within the series at her behest, making it impossible for storyliners to write coherently for her character.”
Full Martine section of the interview behind the tag.
“Martine McCutcheon didn’t “decide to leave the show”. She demanded the BBC allow her to come and go within the series at her behest, making it impossible for storyliners to write coherently for her character.”
Full Martine section of the interview behind the tag.
During your time there several big names decided to leave the show such as Patsy Palmer, Ross Kemp and Martine McCutcheon. What was the feeling this created behind the scenes, and were you happy with the way those characters were written out?
Martine McCutcheon didn’t “decide to leave the show”. She demanded the BBC allow her to come and go within the series at her behest, making it impossible for storyliners to write coherently for her character. So we had little choice but to kill Tiffany. Yes, the character was popular; yes, Martine had talent. But no one is bigger than the show – Executive Producers included. It is true that Ross and Patsy decided to leave. But we saw these exits as opportunities to strengthen EE, to take it forward, not disadvantages. Judging from the subsequent viewing figures, our audience agreed with what went up on the screen.
Martine claims she heard about Tiffany’s being killed off from the radio. Is this true?
It’s likely. Following a brilliant spoiling headline in the Daily Star “Tiff’s A Stiff”, all the radio stations were talking about it within an hour.
Isn’t this a harsh way for an actor to find out she’s having the book closed on her?
Certainly, but this was not our fault. We’d hardly made the decision and were planning how and when to tell Martine when the news was leaked (NOT by me). Leaks are part and parcel of the lives of both Soap stars and Soap production teams. Why do I think of heat and kitchens?
Do you feel killing Tiffany off may have been a hasty decision in light of Bianca’s return to the show?
Not in the least. Far from hasty, the decision was carefully made, not just by me, but by the trio of Mal Young, Peter Salmon (BBC1 Controller) and me. We knew exactly what we were doing and it was exactly right for the show at the time, whatever Martine continues to say about it. Sometimes, actors want to have their cake and eat it. This is not possible in a streamlined production factory, like EastEnders.
Martine McCutcheon didn’t “decide to leave the show”. She demanded the BBC allow her to come and go within the series at her behest, making it impossible for storyliners to write coherently for her character. So we had little choice but to kill Tiffany. Yes, the character was popular; yes, Martine had talent. But no one is bigger than the show – Executive Producers included. It is true that Ross and Patsy decided to leave. But we saw these exits as opportunities to strengthen EE, to take it forward, not disadvantages. Judging from the subsequent viewing figures, our audience agreed with what went up on the screen.
Martine claims she heard about Tiffany’s being killed off from the radio. Is this true?
It’s likely. Following a brilliant spoiling headline in the Daily Star “Tiff’s A Stiff”, all the radio stations were talking about it within an hour.
Isn’t this a harsh way for an actor to find out she’s having the book closed on her?
Certainly, but this was not our fault. We’d hardly made the decision and were planning how and when to tell Martine when the news was leaked (NOT by me). Leaks are part and parcel of the lives of both Soap stars and Soap production teams. Why do I think of heat and kitchens?
Do you feel killing Tiffany off may have been a hasty decision in light of Bianca’s return to the show?
Not in the least. Far from hasty, the decision was carefully made, not just by me, but by the trio of Mal Young, Peter Salmon (BBC1 Controller) and me. We knew exactly what we were doing and it was exactly right for the show at the time, whatever Martine continues to say about it. Sometimes, actors want to have their cake and eat it. This is not possible in a streamlined production factory, like EastEnders.
If only he’d worn slip on shoes….
Had a good chuckle over this earlier
"You couldn't bring up phlegm" is iconic. Especially as Sonia seems to have a mouthful of it herself when saying the line.
I gave up on EastEnders about 20 years ago, but watching that and the Ross Kemp-hosted show the other night was very nostalgic.