Believe it or not, an EP.
Ethel Cain - Willoughby Tucker, I Will Always Love You (Aug 2025)
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THE COVER ART IS PERFECT SHE IS PERFECT
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The theremin quote was specifically for Mother Of A Preacher, I believe. She's said that that one is probably going to be the most sparse/dark album in the trilogy.
Artists need to stop telling fans that things are part of trilogies because it just… feels limiting. I guess if she’s dead serious then cool and we all love a bit of lore but with her insane fanbase I worry people will be (even more) weird about it if she just veers off artistically. like she already has
Anyway, very intrigued as a non-SoundCloud explorer. And she’s back at a bigger venue in Glasgow! Hoping to nab tickets.
Anyway, very intrigued as a non-SoundCloud explorer. And she’s back at a bigger venue in Glasgow! Hoping to nab tickets.
I don't disagree in theory but ironically enough I believe the entire concept was born partly as a way of freeing her from one specific style and sound: each part is meant to represent a different woman in a different generation of this family within the decade they would have lived, and each part was conceived to be sonically distinct to represent those perspectives. In that sense, I think it's been reworked so that the trilogy titles are the tentpoles and everything else is supplementary explorations into the lore. That said, the quality has been consistent across all of her projects so far so I think as a fan it's just about consuming the music and then deciding what to engage with beyond that.
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I mean, she is very much committed to the trilogy idea. That's one thing that's never changed in the years she's been openly talking about it
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How has she?
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The reaction to Perverts from the fanbase - at least on Reddit - has been interesting/deeply annoying to watch because I do actually think that the positive reception outweighs the negative, but after a certain point it felt like all anyone was discussing for weeks was the they-on-them verbal violence between both "sides" instead of the music ddd
Ironically I don't see many Stans talking about the whole trilogy strategy (But I also don't interact with the TikTok breed/many rabid stans?) and it's been pretty laid out from the beginning that it's a process that would take years to accomplish, especially since it's meant to be a multimedia kind of thing... I remember it all stemmed from the idea of making a movie, but that would be too expensive, so she went with music? Which I wouldn't count 100% off the table by the way things are going. And also been said that it would be different kinds of music all around, going backwards in time and all that.
But yeah, I think she's in a nice position in this aspect since she's also navigating with different alias/projects all at the same time, so she'll be able to deliver whatever she wants when she wants to.
But yeah, I think she's in a nice position in this aspect since she's also navigating with different alias/projects all at the same time, so she'll be able to deliver whatever she wants when she wants to.
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I'm not too deeply entrenched in the fanbase, but I guess I just don't see that as her problem/her "veering off" artistically dd. Everything she does seems to be working towards the ultimate goal of completing this trilogy. I think the issue is people's need for everything now that they believe it's something she's going to pump out every 2-3 years when that was never the case or expectation set by her.
Didn't she initially say the trilogy would take roughly a decade nn? Maybe that was a fever dream cc: @Andy French
Yeah it seems like she's just aware that the Ethel Cain trilogy will require a very dense worldbuilding (specially since she's writing it as a novel alongside the music) so she's decided not to rush it and let those albums simmer for as long as they need to, and using the spare time to explore different ideas that might interest her, so she's not boxed for too long (maybe even a decade) within the musical confines she's set for Preacher's Daughter/Wife/Mother until she finishes it. I remember her saying back around the time PD was coming out that it would take her a while to finish all three parts, so as of now things haven't strayed far from her original plan, I think the only thing we didn't expect then was for her to also do projects outside of that world, like Perverts, in the meantime (which are a very welcome surprise).
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Oh 100% - as much as I liked the intimacy of 2021 re: her speaking directly to the fans, unfortunately I think it very quickly metastasized into something uncontrollable regarding expectations for her, both in terms of release schedule and how much access fans "should" have (and thankfully, she seemed to realize that just as quickly as it started and has been doing a pretty solid job of threading that needle, as far as I'm concerned).
Yeah, she's said for a while now that she expects to be wrapping up the trilogy by the time she's a few years into her thirties ddd
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Like, I think she laid it all out really well here. What she's doing now with Perverts and this new album (which is part of the Ethel Cain universe) seems like it has always been part of her creative process
"Willoughby Tucker, I Will Always Love You" live at Copacabana Beach 2026 naur it's true it's true
Pulldrone (feat. Pabllo Vittar) slaps
I’m sorry for more dumb questions but what does this mean? I’ve seen it before in the thread. Part of the Ethel Cain universe? It’s an Ethel Cain album? I don’t get it!