Hair [General Discussion/ Q&A/ Whatever]

Well, I was originally gonna ask some hair advice questions but I thought it'd be greedy to start a new thread just for me so voila! We now have a general discussion thread for Hair (that's head hair, by the way. Not pubes or body hair!).

I'm convinced I've damaged (or am in the process of damaging) my hair, which I'm not happy about because it's the only part of me I'm really happy with visually. Rather than just rambling on, I'll just layout the facts:

- My hair is naturally very dark; a couple of shades from pure black
- It's usually quite thick and wiry, and grows quickly; I used to have to get it cut once every 2 weeks, but now that I go to a better hair 'salon' I only need a cut every 4/5 weeks
- I wash it every day because if I don't it tends to get oily/greasy
- I have a short cut with a semi-long fringe/bangs, which I straighten
- Recently had it coloured because I got bored of it and wanted a change for the new year
- It's gone from dry/frizzy/fly-away to thinner, especially on the fringe and at the sides of my hairline

I do realise those last three points are responsible for the damage but I'm just at a loss. I'm clueless with hair products. I've been using different shampoos and conditioners for things like 'Heat Damage Protection', 'Dry Hair', 'Colour Protect', yadda yadda yadda, and have tried several different waxes/gels/creams... you name it. I've badgered the girl who does my hair to recommend stuff but for some odd reason I never get a straight answer from her (as in "Buy X and Y, that should help.").

Any recommendations? Products, tips? Anything?
 
I'm not really sure what you're main problem with your hair is, however... stop washing your hair every day. You mentioned you have quite thick hair but then said it's going starting to go /thinner. This is because you're washing it too much.

Having said that your hair doesn't sound too dire, it just sounds like you don't know what you're doing. I'd suggest investing in a good shampoo and conditioner like Redken, as this will help with the dryness and make it less fly-away when you're styling it. Also, let it dry naturally if you can. Hair will always feel more damaged/dry/fly-away if you blow dry it quickly.

You'll find styling your hair a lot easier if it's washed properly.
 
Redken is quite expensive compared to what you might find on the high street by the way, but it really is the answer to our hair prayers despite what Mrs Cole will have you believe.

It's around £12 per bottle, but I'd rather pay the extra £7 to get real results. And if you're paying anything more than £7 then you should probably look into using a shampoo that cost more than £1.99.
 
Redken, hm? Never heard of it, I must admit. But I will check that website out. Honestly not too thrilled at the prospect of spending that much cash on shampoo but if it gets results then it's worth it, really, isn't it? Thanks for the suggestion.

However, I really don't know how I'd get around the not washing my hair everyday. I used to get away with it up until about a year/year-and-a-half ago. It just gets too oily if I leave it, especially if there's product in it from the day before, y'know?
 
I agree with Pet Shop Boy... washing hair every day is a massive no-no. Will definitely thin it and dry it out. Buy yourself some dry shampoo for the in-between days- Bastise makes the cheapest one (and also the best one), it's about £2 a can and lasts for ages.

I find that alternating my shampoo works. For example I have red hair, but also quite limp hair, so I alternate each time I wash it with John Frieda Radiant Red, and L'Oreal Full Restore Five (Chezza was right, I am worth it). I'd particularly recommend the L'Oreal shampoo if you get quite oily hair quite quickly- it's very light, so doesn't weigh your hair down with product.

Try to avoid straightening your hair every day if you can avoid it. I went form straightening my hair every single day (sometimes twice a day if I was going out) to straightening it ONLY when I go out (so about 1 or 2 times a week) and the results are phenomenal, it's like I've got new hair. If you need to straighten your fringe buy a barrel brush and blow-dry it instead- much healthier, and lasts a lot longer than straightening it with irons.

I'd say stop throwing products at it, this often does more damage to hair than good, because you get a build-up of them. Drink lots cranberry juice if you like it, it's a miracle drink for thicker shinier hair and strong nails. Avoid tying your hair up on a regular basis if you can avoid it, this weakens the hair at a particular point. Change your bed sheets regularly- if your hair has oily tendancies you will probably pick up some of this oil from your own pillowcase each night. A good tip is to have a silk pillowcase (a just a silk slip over your normal pillowcase will do)- this stops hair going like 'bed hair' and breaking so much.

Hope that helps!
 
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I have almost black folk thick hair. I fancied a girl that loved Jason Donovan. I tried and tried and tried to do my hair the side part way. Then Bobby Brown came out and I was SAVED!
 

Charley

Staff member
angelX said:
Any recommendations? Products, tips? Anything?

You could always make an appointment with a dermatologist, some of them are even specialised in hair issues.

As for the straightening your hair, do you use a product that protects your hair when you straighten it?

But really, in my opinion the best thing you could do is just make the one appointment and get someone to take a look at it and help you out, rather than just trying out stuff on your own which might make it worse in the long run.
 
Thanks to everyone. missmackenzie, I do alternate shampoos/conditioners but I've never tired L'Oreal products so I'll give them a go. I'll definitelt try out dry shampoo to cut down the amount of times I wash it, and I'll try the barrel brush as well.

Charley! at the moment I don't have any 'pre-straightening' product... I was gonna try this pre-dry serum called 'It's A 10' which is supposed to have 10 different properties in one...

By the way, in case I wasn't clear in my first post, if anyone else here on PJ wants to ask questions or give advice for their own hair, feel free! Hence 'General Discussion.'
 
I'm having my hair cut tomorrow, for the first time in AGES. I won't say how long it's been because you'll be horrified- in my defence the last woman who cut my hair did a horrible job and cut if far too short so I've been a little scared to have it cut since.

I don't know quite what I want. I have shoulder-length thick one-length hair and want something really healthy and natural looking, with some kind of fringe. I'm going to an actual famous hairdresser so hopefully he will be able to work his magic and do something wonderful. For the price he charges, I hope he will do.
 
angelX said:
Why don't you try sketching some ideas and designs? Might help you decide what you want.

A briliant idea in theory, but given my drawing skills I would most likely come out of the hairdressers looking like this-

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multimediac17

Moderator
^AMAZING.

I dyed my hair tonight, from mouse brown to dark brown. I feel like a big chocolatey chocolate head, it's great. *swishes hair around*
 
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angelX said:
Thanks to everyone. missmackenzie, I do alternate shampoos/conditioners but I've never tired L'Oreal products so I'll give them a go. I'll definitelt try out dry shampoo to cut down the amount of times I wash it, and I'll try the barrel brush as well.

Charley! at the moment I don't have any 'pre-straightening' product... I was gonna try this pre-dry serum called 'It's A 10' which is supposed to have 10 different properties in one...

By the way, in case I wasn't clear in my first post, if anyone else here on PJ wants to ask questions or give advice for their own hair, feel free! Hence 'General Discussion.'


It's better to get shampoo from a Pharmacy, as oposed to supermarker ones.
 
inanotherlife said:
When you say not to wash your hair everyday do you mean don't wet it or don't use shampoo and conditioner?

I wash my hair everyday. Have done since I was five…I'll be bald by the time I'm 21, will I?
 
Washing your hair everyday isn't that much of a crime. You might have a few more split ends.

I would say, your hair thins naturally sometimes. I'm not sure why it does, but you do go through periods of hair loss. You can also lose hair through stress or illness or malnutrition, which has bugger all to do with how you treat it.

Products and styling won't ever cause you to actually lose hair, anyway. It can make your hair dry and fragile, which can make it break away, giving the appearance of hairloss. But if you are concerned, I think it's better to know what's actually going on rather than throwing some Redken at it.
 
Don't worry too much about washing your hair. Washing every day will always make your hair feel more fluffy and fly-away - but that's because it's clean and there is no build up to weigh it down- not because it's 'thinner' or more damaged.

It's important to remember is that shampoo is essentially just surfactant and detergent - it cleans surfaces but can't penetratre cell walls. Therefore the most expensive shampoos aren't proportionally beneficial for your hair and the cheapest ones aren't proportionally damaging. 99% of people could use shower gel and it would make very little difference.

Conditioner is different because you shouldn't rinse conditioned hair for too long. Leaving a bit of the conditioning sediment behind will make your hair feel smoother and more moisturised. But remember; it's not made the hair 'healthier' - all hair is dead as it leaves the follicle - it's simply made the surface of the hair more 'slippery'

The major way you can damage your hair (leaving colouring aside) is through drying. This is unavoidable and you just have to live with it. However, you must ALWAYS make sure your hair is dry before you use straightening irons. If you apply irons to damp hair – the water molecules along the hair shaft rapidly expand and evaporate. It effectively cooks each strand from the inside out.

It’s why those ‘protection sprays’ are madness – because they are still mostly water regardless of what other ingredients are in there. Products that contain alcohol should only be used after heat styling is finished for the same reasons. Use hairspray AFTER you’ve dried and straightened.
 

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