Heaven Is a Rate on Earth. The Belinda Carlisle Rate. Ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? | Page 16 | The Popjustice Forum

Heaven Is a Rate on Earth. The Belinda Carlisle Rate. Ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth?

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by VivaForever, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. Cripes. Love Revolution out before everything on the debut bar Mad About You? What the buggery-bollocks?!
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  2. 53. One with You - 6.92

    Highest score: 9.5 (@Untitled)
    Lowest score: 4 x 2 (me, @unnameable)​

    This one was written by Charlotte, Ellen, and Ralph Schuckett, the same team behind Lay Down Your Arms. Seems legit, as Arms is a bad Belinda single and this is a bad Belinda album track.

    "I hate to admit it, but this is filler" - @unnameable (4)
    No. Filler implies it's inoffensive.

    "Not bad but just ok really" - @CasperFan (6)
    More like not okay, just bad really.

    "Okay, that super deep bass intro is probably the best part of this track. The synthetics on this kind of overpower it at points, but otherwise it’s not bad." - @Seventeen Days (6.5)
    It is though.

    "Starts with Belinda experimenting with sounds again - always exciting and then it sort of falls a bit flat, into standard guitar/drums - disappointing. The chorus picks things up though and has some absolutely gorgeous melodies and harmonies." - @bonnieetclyde (8)
    Disappointing is a good word.

    "If I had to guess, I’d think this would’ve been the next single? Great bass." - @Hudweiser (8)
    Super bass, perhaps? Save me, Nicki.

    "So good. This album is a such a hidden gem. Shame this fell through the cracks in a lot places." - @pop3blow2 (9)
    I'm like that gif of New York rubbing her head at seeing my least favorite pre-2000 Belindalbum called a hidden gem.

  3. Love Revolution is a 10/10 for me.

    I wish I'd got around to voting now!
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  4. Incidentally, I've just calculated the standard deviations for all of the songs, and it turns out Stuff and Nonsense was the most polarizing song of the rate, with a standard deviation of 2.71 (wow!). The second-highest, unsurprisingly, was Dancing Queen at 2.66, followed by Why at 2.51.

    The least polarizing songs to have left so far have been Feels Like I've Etc. at 0.97 and Dancing in the City at 0.98, followed at a distance by Where Love Hides at 1.20.

    The least polarizing song of the entire rate is our runner-up.
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  5. 53. Here Comes My Baby - 6.92

    Highest score: 10 x 2 (@Untitled, @pop3blow2)
    Lowest score: 3 (me)​

    Written by Belinda, Charlotte, and Gregg Alexander. My only comment:

    "Did someone forget to tell Belinda that power ballads were out in 1993? No? Ok then." - @Seventeen Days (6)
    Power ballads will never be out of style. Bad songs, on the other hand...

    "Her voice soaring on the chorus makes this." - @unnameable (7)
    I notice you don't specify what it makes this.

    "It's all about the vocals on this one and how stunning they are. I wish there were some stronger melodies at play but overall a nice way to finish off the record." - @bonnieetclyde (7.5)

    "One of the best on the album - the vocal totally sells it and can’t imagine anyone else singing it. Would’ve liked this to be single no. 3 , not that it would’ve been a hit. Love the outro to this..." - @CasperFan (8.5)
    One of the best on the album? Oh, honey, no...

    "'There’s angels on the ceiling, my heart is on the floor, and I can’t be just your friend' gets me every time! Her voice effing bellows on this!" - @Hudweiser (9)

    "This song I knew. I’m a Gregg Alexander fan, so I dug into in his history many moons ago to find all the songs he wrote. What an amazing way to end this album." - @pop3blow2 (10)

  6. See I find her voice really shrill on Here Comes My Baby.
  7. I'm not sure why I gave Here Comes My Baby a 6, considering that I really wasn't a fan of it. I guess I was trying to be a bit nicer this go-round, as opposed to my constant under-5 scores making me a villain in the Taylor Swift rate.
  8. One With You is great! No way that and Love Revolution should be out already.

    Any Lay Down Your Arms a bad single?! @VivaForever, you break my heart. It's one of my faves!!!
  9. 52. I Feel the Magic - 6.96

    Highest score: 10 x 2 (@tylerc904, @unnameable)
    Lowest score: 3 (@CasperFan)​

    Kii at @unnameable being either the highest or lowest scorer for practically everything. We stan a vers queen.

    I Feel the Magic was written by Charlotte and Johnny Segal (IDKH) and peaked at #82 on the Hot 100. For comparison, preceding single Mad About You peaked at #3. Though in fairness, following single Band of Gold failed to chart at all...

    I find I Feel the Magic to be a nice, inoffensive album track. Better than many of the actual album tracks - I gave it a 7 compared to the 4's and 5's I handed out to the album tracks that have thus far have left us from the debut (except the 7 I gave Since You've Gone for some reason). But still an album track, not single material. It goes a bit too far into the '60s copycat territory for me, I think.

    "I'm not sure if I really like this or not or if it just annoys. She sounds fantastic and you can tell the good sis is feeling ha oats to this one, but... it's taken way too long for me to get invested and I don't think that's because it's a slow burner," says @Remorque (7). That's tea, actually.

    "This track has a super 50s pop vein running through it that just makes it so fun. This has always been one of my favorite Belinda tracks." @Seventeen Days (9), I feel like you and I may just be [email protected] half-nemeses.

    "Kinda Beach Boys-eque. I love the Beach Boys, so yeah… I love this. I was about comment the video reminded of a shampoo commercial but then I read the Wiki page on this. Yeah. Haha." This from @pop3blow2 (9.5) prompted me to check the Wikipedia page to see that "Agree Shampoo used the song in their commercials." IDKH, so I looked her up and apparently she was a thing. YouTube has some of her commercials, but not the one with Magic. Pity. It does have some with Selena, though!

    @CasperFan's (3) utter hatred made me laugh tibb. "More like I Feel it’s Tragic! This is all a bit Showaddywaddy for me (look em up kids!) Lousy choice for the second single! Probably killed the album dead."

    @tylerc904 (10) "love(s) shrieking along to this one." You do you, sis. Live your best life (be free).

    And now it's time to play "spot the British people." It's easy because you all have such an odd (to me) take on what sounds like Christmas music. (I mean, Only You? Stay Another Day? Really?)
    • "This is on Xmas playlist." - @Hudweiser (6)
    • "It sounds like Christmas! Doesn't leave much of an impression though and sounds a little like a bonus track tacked onto a re-released album over the X-mas period." - @bonnieetclyde (5)
    • "This is very retro 60s girlgroup, and all the better for it. The Christmas Gift from Phil Spector-style production really makes this." - @unnameable (10)

    Tomorrow: We meet the original Shades of Michelangelo, and I'm actually mad about something from Real leaving.
  10. [​IMG]
    Birds of a feather stan oversung ballads together!*

    *@Untitled is my old account, in case that was an obscure fact ddd
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  11. Does heavy use of sax and sleigh bells not spell Christmas to you?
    (Technically this means if you put sleigh bells on Tiffany or Debbie's debut albums you'd get a UK Christmas album from the 80s. Please don't try this.)

    If the below does not make you feel Christmassy, please do not visit the UK in December.
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  12. Thank god I Feel The Magic is out-complete turd of a song! Sad Here Come's My Baby is out-a hidden underrated gem-oh well
  13. Is this because I didn't give Summer Rain a 10?

    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who stans for "I Feel the Magic". I get why some people don't like it, but it's a fun bop.
  14. I think we scored it the same, or else I scored it a point lower than you, dddd. I mean we seem to either have the same opinion on a song or very different ones, and rarely in between.
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  15. So cute.
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  16. The kii is that thumbnail really does look exactly like a shampoo commercial.
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  17. Haha... It's so true! I guess as a Mandy stan, I have a radar for potential pop star hair & beauty promos. When I was watching that I Feel The Magic video, I was just waiting for Belinda to hold up a bottle of Salon Selectives.
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  18. I Feel The Magic might not be great, but second singles were thin on the ground on the debut so I understand why they went with it.

    Basically, the debut is bilge.
  19. The thumbnail gives me Patsy Kensit vibes. Anyway, the song is cute I love it.
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  20. Fun fact, the first time I ever saw or heard of Patsy Kensit was when she was in a French & Saunders parody of Batman, and I 100% thought she was Kylie.
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