Is there any competition for the Christmas number 1?

dmc said:
What pisses me off about these campaigns are that they are just following the sheep mentality of those they claim to 'thwart'. Buying something just for the sake of it keeping another song off the top spot is completely idiotic. Listen to ALL the relevant songs you like that week and buy the one YOU want you moron.

I think you're missing the point a bit to be honest. Firstly, if everyone bought the songs they like that week as you suggest, which most people do, that would result in a completely unaltered singles chart, like any normal week, and the X Factor single would be #1 as expected. So no one's made 'a difference'. Secondly, both you and Lost in Japan. are putting words in many people's mouths:

Lost In Japan. said:
Yes. That was the one thing which annoyed me the most about the Rage campaign ... was that they were all about non-conformity but were then conforming to a Facebook group and doing what they were told

I really don't believe for a second that most people who bought the Rage song were claiming to go against the 'sheep mentality', etc etc. I know from friends who did buy it and helped it along to #1, that it was an obvious choice: it's a song that loads of people love; a song that came out when people bought cd albums, and many people liked the song but didn't like Rage enough to buy their album... It was a clever choice. It's one of those that people go, "oh, I never bought this at the time, and it's better than The Climb, so now's the time to buy it." I'm not suggesting there weren't people behind the campaign who thought they really were sticking it to The Man, but I don't think they were a majority by any stretch of the imagination. The reaction to the campaign was incredibly po-faced and really it was just a bit of fun, to see if another song really could beat the X Factor machine, and it worked - what's wrong with that?
 
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I completely agree with dmc and Lost In Japan on the subject of these campaigns. Lots of people wantedto buy Joe's single too and I think the fact that the following week Joe was number one and the campain song toppled out of the charts shows the X Factor machine wasn't beaten, merely shadowed for a moment.
 
jennduck said:
I really don't believe for a second that most people who bought the Rage song were claiming to go against the 'sheep mentality', etc etc.
The whole reason a song by Rage Against The Machine (the clue is in the name of the band) was chosen is to go against the 'sheep mentality'.
 
To be fair the whole business of releasing any record relies on the sheep mentality, no one would have massive hit records if there weren't people saying "watch this", "listen to this", "download this"
 
I really hope it's not Bird is the Word that's "Christmas Number One" in the UK. That episode where Dad played the song non-stop was my worst episode ever. Soannoyin
 
Seanie said:
Rob said:
"Bird is the Word" apparently has over 30,000 fans on Facebook to be the Christmas #1.
its over 122k now

Ha I have 89 people who have joined our campaign.

89 vs 122,000.

????
What i don't like about it is it's not Christmassy.

Anyway does anyone have any suggestions for links i could put on my facebook page.

They can't up this week or next week as i have stuff planned for that but the week after.
 
Lost In Japan. said:
jennduck said:
I really don't believe for a second that most people who bought the Rage song were claiming to go against the 'sheep mentality', etc etc.
The whole reason a song by Rage Against The Machine (the clue is in the name of the band) was chosen is to go against the 'sheep mentality'.

But turning out in a massive group for the right to be different isn't anything new, and I don't see a problem with it.

(And yes, before anyone jumps down my throat the Rage campaign wasn't fighting for any 'right', but its very much the same sort of 'hypocrisy'.)
 
ultima said:
Seanie said:
Rob said:
"Bird is the Word" apparently has over 30,000 fans on Facebook to be the Christmas #1.
its over 122k now

????
What i don't like about it is it's not Christmassy.after.
There's not been a Christmassy number one for YEARS, Christmas ain't christmas anymore.

The futureheads are right, Christmas was better in the 80s
 
_hazzie_ said:
I completely agree with dmc and Lost In Japan on the subject of these campaigns. Lots of people wantedto buy Joe's single too and I think the fact that the following week Joe was number one and the campain song toppled out of the charts shows the X Factor machine wasn't beaten, merely shadowed for a moment.

But it didn't topple out of the charts - it went down to number 2. That was the most surprising thing about the whole story, that loads of people bought the song even after the campaign had ended.
 
Bobby Tables said:
_hazzie_ said:
I completely agree with dmc and Lost In Japan on the subject of these campaigns. Lots of people wantedto buy Joe's single too and I think the fact that the following week Joe was number one and the campain song toppled out of the charts shows the X Factor machine wasn't beaten, merely shadowed for a moment.

But it didn't topple out of the charts - it went down to number 2. That was the most surprising thing about the whole story, that loads of people bought the song even after the campaign had ended.


I thought it tumbled to 40 the next week maybe that was the week after.

Seanie said:
ultima said:
Seanie said:
Rob said:
"Bird is the Word" apparently has over 30,000 fans on Facebook to be the Christmas #1.
its over 122k now

????
What i don't like about it is it's not Christmassy.after.
There's not been a Christmassy number one for YEARS, Christmas ain't christmas anymore.

The futureheads are right, Christmas was better in the 80s

I have a Christmassy song.
 
Seanie said:
You're not going to be a contender for Christmas number one though are you, realistically?

That's not nice.
Anyway do you have any links for my page.
I'm putting the popjustice suggested links up the week after this one.
 
ultima said:
Bobby Tables said:
_hazzie_ said:
I completely agree with dmc and Lost In Japan on the subject of these campaigns. Lots of people wantedto buy Joe's single too and I think the fact that the following week Joe was number one and the campain song toppled out of the charts shows the X Factor machine wasn't beaten, merely shadowed for a moment.

But it didn't topple out of the charts - it went down to number 2. That was the most surprising thing about the whole story, that loads of people bought the song even after the campaign had ended.


I thought it tumbled to 40 the next week maybe that was the week after.

Yeah, I'm sure it went down to number 39 the week after and then out of the chart, or some position way down low on the 3rd week.
 
'Bird is the Word' for number one is closing in on 400,000 members on Facebook. I really don't know if they're gonna be able to make it happen but I hope so. If not 'Oh Santa!' definitely deserves the spot.
 
Surfin' Bird would be hilarious as Xmas number one.

I'm surprised they don't just give us Xmas number one back and release the winners single after xmas, cause this is going to happen every year now.
 
I think it all depends on who the winner is. Like last year, I know Popjustice and everyone on here seems to think the sun shines out his arsehole, but Joe McElderry wasn't some amazing popstar, he's a David Sneddon - a likeable guy with a decent voice - so it was easy to outsell his winner's single, but if One Direction or Cher win I think they'll have the attention of a lot more people than a substandard winner would and could probably ward off a potential number 1 threat.
 

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