It's Me Against The Music: Revisiting/Sorting Out My Music Collection - Round 2!

Mvnl

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From that batch I would probably keep Alizée and ditch the rest.

I really liked Alizée’s albums at the time, but to be honest, I haven’t listened to her in years and genuinely don’t have a clue how her music has held up. Moi…Lolita remains a classic, though.

I definitely agree with what you’re saying about Alphabeat. Some good singles back in the day (Boyfriend was the best, I think), but it all feels strangely inessential now. If I had to choose I would probably get rid of it. There are hundreds of artists I would prefer to listen to instead and even in their heyday they were very much a mid-tier pop group, so yes, another goner.

21 is just…not my thing at all. I guess the “problem” is that she first arrived around the same time as many of my favourite artists (Florence, Bat for Lashes, Susanne Sundfør etc.) who were ultimately doing far more interesting things by creating their own little universe and distinctive soundscapes, so Adele’s brand came off as quite pedestrian in comparison.
And yet the album still made its way into in my collection when someone gave it to me as a Christmas present in 2016, which was a choice! I mean, why go with such a monolith 5 (!) years after its release when there’s 99,9% chance that the recipient either already owns it or simply doesn’t want it? It’s not like there’s an element of “Ooh, let me introduce you to this obscure artist” to this!

That is one random gift for sure!
(Weren't they just tired of their own copy after 5 years?)

I think a potential reason surprisingly many 2008 acts that excited me then don't now is that I played the majority of music in store, and at the time I was just excited with anything that felt 'cool/acceptable enough to play in store' (or that would have my co-workers roll their eyes only a little) yet enjoyable for me as well (hi Amy MacDonald, Duffy, Estelle). Though I'm not fully sure I even played Alphabeat in store.. I think for a hot few minutes I genuinely loved their sound? But then there's other acts I liked at the time like Dragonette and Lucky Soul that I still appreciate about as much as I did back then. .And Alphabeat's sound was retro on arrival, so how did it age so badly??
Surprisingly I'd say the sound of The Spell (and onwards) has aged much better for me.

Overall I do notice I have trouble letting go of releases that once did feel significant to me (as opposed to thrift store finds that never really had a 'moment'). Got a little sentimental pile of albums I bought at a time I didn't buy that many albums yet (Nelly Furtado & Anastacia's debut, Anouk's Lost Tracks..) that I don't really enjoy all that much anymore but that just feel odd to let go of when they were already part of my collection when it was still very compact.
Maybe letting them go kinda feels like any album I might buy these days may one day also be one I let go of? And then.. what's the point?
 
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That is one random gift for sure!
(Weren't they just tired of their own copy after 5 years?)

Haha, it did cross my mind that it might have been something she wanted to get rid of herself!

Personally I’d care much less about getting rid of releases by super well known artists. It’s not like you’ll never hear Nelly Furtado, Anastacia or Anouk again in your life if you sweep them now, plus it will be easy to buy those albums again if you end up regretting it (which is unlikely if you don’t even enjoy them all that much anymore). It’s not some Mini Viva situation where you’ll never get to hear the artist anywhere outside your own living room. But then, it’s a personal thing. I think I’d rather hold on to the more obscure stuff!
 

Mvnl

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Haha, it did cross my mind that it might have been something she wanted to get rid of herself!

Personally I’d care much less about getting rid of releases by super well known artists. It’s not like you’ll never hear Nelly Furtado, Anastacia or Anouk again in your life if you sweep them now, plus it will be easy to buy those albums again if you end up regretting it (which is unlikely if you don’t even enjoy them all that much anymore). It’s not some Mini Viva situation where you’ll never get to hear the artist anywhere outside your own living room. But then, it’s a personal thing. I think I’d rather hold on to the more obscure stuff!

Yeah with those it’s really more about them being the actual copies young me once bought. Once those are gone they are gone for good
 

Mvnl

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Right, for diversion's sake/because the proper albums caused my brain to melt (and because sooner rather than later I want to sell everything in my basement in one batch and, against my better judgement, I want to at least take a last look at every single item before giving away anything I might regret) I picked up a first box of compilation albums from my basement.
It's been on my table for hours now because I'm half afraid of what I'll find. I guess I'm mostly worried bout the thought of even more releases I want to hold onto but even more so those I just don't know how to feel about.

And though I definitely have a lot less compilations than proper albums that I genuinely care about, a lot of these are even more of a nostalgic time capsule with the messy mix of songs I do/don't care about potentially making it even harder.
Wish me luck, here I go again

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Mvnl

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Immediately spotted the NOW1 reissue in thin card sleeve, NOW 29 slim double case (the first in the series) and a NOW 11 original fatbox.
Those are probably the only recognizable ones there.
The NOWs will have me a bit conflicted, not too long ago having the plan to collect them all, but then by the time I was through with my playback of all the ones I bought being sooo done with them for now.
1 is probably a goner for having sticker residue on the sleeve (otherwise not sure if I'd care enough bout the tracklist either, but this made it easy to cut). 29 looks a lot better now I've put it in an all transparent box (though I'm not sure if that's rewriting history a little too much?) and just about in the era I'm most likely to possibly collect one day.
11 no doubt is gonna do my head in.

Overall a lot of these are easier than I expected. Back when I got them I was thinking more like 'look at all those songs that are on this together' while now my focus goes more towards all the songs I'd skip and 'might as well make a playlist if I just want the songs I like'.
 

Mvnl

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Well good thing is 90% of these can go, biggest doubt are 2 Hitzone's (dutch 'Now') from the year I had my own record store. Albums from that time realy are majorly nostalgic because I saw their sleeves staring at me every single day!
(also these compilation albums, though usually programming certain tracks to leave out the ones that were too commercial/loud, sometimes were a happy medium of our collective tastes to play instore)
The one Now I wanted to hold onto has a severe scratch but I consider keeping it around for now in case I order another copy that might have other parts (disc/booklet) looking worse so I can make a hybrid. (though maybe I'm currently in a state where I should just let anything go instead of always thinking of another reason it might still come in handy?)

One main struggle right now: I wanna go through piles and just 'be done with them' so there's definite 'these can go' boxes in my basement.
But then there's the extra check for CDs that the local record store might potentially want/I can sell seperately (first going by content, then by checking the state of the discs) and then there's 'but what if I could use this case/tray for another album I wanna keep that's in worse shape?'. And then it all becomes a bit much and 'can I even let go of anything yet?' and I desperately need to find me a workflow here.
(Best I can think of for now is keeping special ones (white tray, superjewelcase, fatbox) aside plus maybe cases that really look as good as new, and just ignoring all the 'decently looking regular cases' (cause theoretically not that hard to get more of).
Oh yeah and somewhere in the process then there's also 'correcting my Discogs database' and 'potentially (re)ripping albums before letting them go'. And that's ignoring the 'writing a little bit about every album on PJ/making pictures of everything' because... well it's quite the procedure as it is?
 

Mvnl

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About time for another update.
I discussed all of this with my therapist, twice now, and one very fair point was that I need to start making decisions, and not just for each invididual album, but more generally what I'm aiming for with this and which criteria I use. Oh and stick with them instead of wanting to keep all options open. (which ironically may be exactly why I want to hold onto everything!) Cause as it is my mind kinda changes with every new pile, which makes me want to go back to ones I'd already 'finished' and has me constantly secondguessing myself.
I kinda need to make a set of rules or reasons I can fall back on whenever I get stuck or too much in my head so I can go 'ah right, this is what I was going for', cause as it is thoughts like 'but do I really wanna do this?', 'what if I might miss it some day?', 'well I don't like it but I kinda feel I should have this' keep getting in the way.

The compilations (which I may save for later now) were a very confusing mix of things.
For starters: one thing that makes them slightly easier is I don't need to listen to any of them cause I know all these songs by title (and if I don't it's telling as well). But there the easy part ends. Cause as opposed to regular albums it's very rare with these not to have a mix of songs I love and songs I (at best) don't care about.
What I did find interesting is that back when I got most of these I very much focussed on the ones I loved.
Like 'hey a best of 1999 compilation that has 12 songs that were amongst my essentials of that year!' > BUY.
While now it seems those 8 less essential other songs which I'd probably skip on a playthrough weigh a lot heavier. Might just be streaming and overall thinking "If I want to listen to the best of that year/the sound of summer 2003/the best movie themes ever I'm better off making a playlist". But then there's convenience.. when I suddenly feel the urge to put on the sound of a certain time am I really first gonna sit down and compile a list (which requires a whole lot of decision making of its own) or do I actually kinda like these pre-curated compilation albums? They're also a lot easier when it comes to my habit of 'throwing one album into my daily (smart) iTunes playlist to revisit it'-ritual.
Oh and there's the: 'not quite as easy to download or stream as proper albums' factor too.
With things like the Hitzones (dutch Now, but worse) I have considered ripping them all and then letting go (but feels like quite the chore) even if just to make sure I won't end up collecting them all over again later. Also consider putting them all into a drawer or box or into one of those CD binders to save space but still have them around if I ever crave revisiting them, but a part of me feels very resistant to anything that feels like 'avoiding making proper decisions'.

For a split second I actually considered just getting this over with, letting a buyer take away all of these boxes and be done with it (to be fair a few years ago I already decided all of these could go), cause the few releases I might actually end up regretting probably don't weigh up to the amount of energy this is taking me. But then I decided I wanna be able to go through this instead of around it. I wanna be able to make these decisions. To learn to accept that I may end up regretting some of my choices, and that I'll survive when that happens.

So yeah, all of this is still doing my head in. And even though my therapist gave me a 'clear' assignment of writing down some rules/guidelines before starting, I find it pretty hard to come up with any 'one fits all' rules that will work for every possible album when there's so many different tastes. Apart from maybe 'only hang onto ones I really like' and 'be honest with myself'. Cause if I really am 'What if...?' probably means 'no'. (Any thoughts like 'what if one day I wanna dive into the full discography of Mariah Carey', 'what if I suddenly crave putting on a Motown compilation?' or, the worst of all, 'I may not like it now but what if it will grow on me in time' (what time? With the size of my collection how likely is it I'll give a song or album I don't already like enough time for that to happen?) + all of those other scenarios that haven't happened once in the past 10 or more years.)

The whole 'relistening one album at a time' plan definitely is something I won't be doing for now cause that would be spending a whole lot of time and energy on albums I feel indifferent about. Might get to that after I narrowed my 600+ 'doubt pile' down a bit further.
For now my main thing to decide is: do I go through things alphabetically (which allows me to mix in the albums on my actual shelves, for a proper comparison with releases I properly like/to double check for double copies/to also check which sleeves/inlays need replacing now I still have an abundance of cases), or randomly to keeps things a bit more varied & surprising (and not have to deal with 'judging 8 albums by one artist back to back')?
 

Mvnl

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Rules/guidelines/reminders for attempt 347:

- Trust that first instinct of 'yay', 'ew' or 'meh' when I pick up an album.
Just be honest with yourself and stop right there before the 'but what if..'s kick in. As nice as ultimate completion or having something 'just in case' might seem those albums which would be the very last ones you'd pick to be on your team in gym class will very likely never ever become your first choice to put on.

- If there's a strong sense of wonder or 'this may actually be an album I overlooked but could love': give it a quick but pretty harsh audition. Clearly with all of these I once already decided they could go so for me to change my mind now at the very least the majority of the songs should make me go 'oh hell yeah, I love this'. 'Actually, there's one or two songs that sound alright' is not enough when there's so many other albums I'm not ambivalent about. It's these albums' job to do the convincing, not mine to talk myself into anything.

- 'Hmmm' isn't yes. 'I might miss it some day' isn't yes. 'I can't decide' clearly isn't yes either.

- Make choices for current me. Nostalgia's one hell of a drug and at times really enjoyable but 'I once liked this' is as shoddy of a selling point as 'I might one day like this'. As hard as I can find it to grasp/accept that things change some of these may have served their purpose. Those moments happened, they were (or weren't) great then, they're gone now.
It may be fun to hear one or two of their songs on shuffle every now or then but if that + the nostalgia's all an album's got going for it today, I might be fine without it.

(I'll allow myself to make exceptions for a few albums from my earliest CD buying days where the actual copy I bought at the time feels sorta sacred and irreplaceable. May make a little box for a few of those that aren't quite 'great enough to put on my shelves' any longer)


One thing potentially making this hard is my plan to revisit albums one by one, whether that's to revisit all of these moments in my life one more time or to finally dive into artist's back catalogues. Cause that leaves a whole lot of 'what if's'.
But going by my recent experience of going through Now 40-108 back to back this may soon start feeling like a chore so if the thought of (re)visiting an album right here and now does not excite me: I should probably let it go?
Plus: I have over 1000 albums that for now are going nowhere. If I'd decide to revisit one of those every day from now on I'd be good for the next 3 years. That's a long time. By then my taste might have changed,I might have bought even more albums (I will) or I may decide after all to treat myself to that full Des'ree discography I let go of in the summer of 2023..
 
(Best I can think of for now is keeping special ones (white tray, superjewelcase, fatbox) aside plus maybe cases that really look as good as new, and just ignoring all the 'decently looking regular cases' (cause theoretically not that hard to get more of).
This is a good idea; it's what I've started to do. When I moved hundreds into Really Useful Boxes in those plastic sleeves, I obviously had an equal number of empty trays and cases. I decided to focus on keeping any older-style ones that were in particularly good condition (thicker quality, small round stoppers), any quality slim doubles, any with the Warner or Sony frosted logos, unusual or coloured trays (those 1993-era ones which aren't totally transparent have come in handy lately when I've been (re)buying CDs from that era and the ones I get sent are either smashed or not the correct one).

Even then, I'm left with several boxes full of the things which I expect I will have to be more ruthless about.
 

Mvnl

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This is a good idea; it's what I've started to do. When I moved hundreds into Really Useful Boxes in those plastic sleeves, I obviously had an equal number of empty trays and cases. I decided to focus on keeping any older-style ones that were in particularly good condition (thicker quality, small round stoppers), any quality slim doubles, any with the Warner or Sony frosted logos, unusual or coloured trays (those 1993-era ones which aren't totally transparent have come in handy lately when I've been (re)buying CDs from that era and the ones I get sent are either smashed or not the correct one).

Even then, I'm left with several boxes full of the things which I expect I will have to be more ruthless about.
Even though it felt a tiny bit wrong I eventually found myself removing 'rare' trays (white or shiny black ones) from their box and putting them aside right away, so I don't end up with a whole bunch of random CDs with 'just in case I need replacements' elements. Also wanna do a quick round through my 'good CDs' (the ones on my shelf) to see what kind of cases/trays I need to replace, so I can do all of that before I let go of all the rest.

I half wanna mix up my shelf CDs with the 'not sure' ones cause it also adds some good perspective of 'proper favourites' vs 'CDs I may think I like more than I do because they're now the best of a weak bunch'. But then.. how does one go about 'mixing up' 2000 CDs?
 
When I was faced with potentially need to offload a lot of CDs just for space/financial reasons, I wouldn't try and necessarily make decisions on everything at once. There would be things I knew I could let go, so those were immediately put aside. It might have only been a few dozen, but it was a start. And then maybe go back and have another look at what else is left, and skim a few more off. Whittling down has been the only way I could face doing it.

I did the "take a box of hundreds to the MVE and take the cash/vouchers" in the early 2000s and in recent years probably rebought 75% of them. But that's been fun in itself. Maybe if I'd realised I'd quite like to have them again a few years later than I did, finding/affording them again might have been more of a problem as the market shrinks and the prices go up. But it worked out okay.

Even now, when I decide "actually I want an original copy of PSB's Behaviour again", I can find an okay one for £3 or so. I've found a US one online, with the different spelling and disc design, so it will be fun to have that and still have the same music as on the 1990 UK one I let go when I bought the FL releases.
 
So yeah, all of this is still doing my head in. And even though my therapist gave me a 'clear' assignment of writing down some rules/guidelines before starting, I find it pretty hard to come up with any 'one fits all' rules that will work for every possible album when there's so many different tastes. Apart from maybe 'only hang onto ones I really like' and 'be honest with myself'. Cause if I really am 'What if...?' probably means 'no'. (Any thoughts like 'what if one day I wanna dive into the full discography of Mariah Carey', 'what if I suddenly crave putting on a Motown compilation?' or, the worst of all, 'I may not like it now but what if it will grow on me in time' (what time? With the size of my collection how likely is it I'll give a song or album I don't already like enough time for that to happen?) + all of those other scenarios that haven't happened once in the past 10 or more years.)
It's funny you mention the Mariah thing, because that's happened to me in the last couple of years. I used to have the albums (bought on release) then let them all go when I went through my "all I need of most acts is a Best Of", before spotting cheap bundles online and having 20 of her CDs back in my collection.

The psychology behind all of this can be interesting and quite important. Like you say, the current scenario is doing your head in. There's a concern over whether each CD or act will become more attractive/relevant to you again in the future. I get that too. But actually, the process of letting them go, forgetting you ever wanted them, and then something in the future reignites a desire to listen to them or own them again is a very positive thing and something I've found enjoyable in itself.

I don't think "oh shit, I used to have that and what a mistake I made letting it go", I think "ooh, I'd like to have that again and it feeds into the buzz you got when wanting them originally (a bit). So you repeat the positive aspect of getting them the first time, rather than dwelling on any regrets.
 

Mvnl

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Yeah the 'I might end up rebuying it' worry is what has kinda been holding me back thusfar, also because I'm still buying quite a lot of old releases. But then those mostly represent what makes me excited and happy right now and a lot of the CDs in these boxes don't quite. With some it might just take a replay to make me (re)appreciate them and change how I feel about them, but I think I'll just have to take the risk that I might end up rebuying an album or 10 somewhere down the line.
The majority probably won't be too expensive (and never were in the first place).

As for doing it all gradually. Might have considered that if
1. I didn't want one buyer to get rid of the whole lot once I'm done
2. these weren't all already in boxes that have been in my basement for years now. It just feels it's time to deal with them. Also need to remind myself once more: I already chose to let these go once. Since then there's been maybe.. like 5 or 10 albums out of the whole lot I regretted which now made me go through all of them one more time. And the focus really should just be 'picking out the few that make me go 'NO, WAIT!'' instead of reevaluating every single one of them. Yet here I am.
 

Mvnl

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It's funny you mention the Mariah thing, because that's happened to me in the last couple of years. I used to have the albums (bought on release) then let them all go when I went through my "all I need of most acts is a Best Of", before spotting cheap bundles online and having 20 of her CDs back in my collection.
Yeah she's one of the main ones that come to mind (also Whitney, partially Cher) where I got almost all the albums (probably for like 1 euro a piece over time) yet never really cared enough to dive into them. I think I'd actually need a project like a blog to even 'make myself listen to them' (which says it all really? Yet there's still the fear of 'but what if I enjoy them and they're gone??') because I genuinely have never thought 'let's put on a Mariah album' (not even the compilation ones).
I think the closest I came was when I read her biography and even that didn't make me do it. So maybe they really only were there because 'a proper pop collection needs to include her discography'.

The psychology behind all of this can be interesting and quite important. Like you say, the current scenario is doing your head in. There's a concern over whether each CD or act will become more attractive/relevant to you again in the future. I get that too. But actually, the process of letting them go, forgetting you ever wanted them, and then something in the future reignites a desire to listen to them or own them again is a very positive thing and something I've found enjoyable in itself.

Yeah I'm not entirely sure if the current situation collection wise is doing my head in but the sense of this unfinished process that I have to finish, or put aside, one way or another definitely is. (Well half: in an odd way I'm also anxious for what else I have to focus on once I'm done)
The thought that this can be enjoyable, instead of just me endlessly beating myself up over making the wrong decisions does sound appealing (definitely more appealing than the beating up thing). My therapist really hammered on the 'just dare to make decisions, knowing and accepting they're never going to be 100% perfect' (like all the digipacks I receive, ha! (except: really not ha at all) And though that's easier said with a steady income I do think there may be value in just making decisions and trusting.. myself?
I mean technically nothing's stopping me from storing all of these in my basement for another 10 years or so, but a big part of me does want to make definite decisions instead of just endlessly clinging onto everything 'just in case'.
(See also my iTunes where when I don't like a song I hear I think 'but it might be a grower', 'maybe I'll enjoy it in a different setting/season/day' or 'but what if I do like the rest of its album and I erase it leaving an incomplete album??'. Same process, a whole different beast to potentially deal with after all of this. I do think there's maybe a slight hoarderish element in all of it)

I guess it would just be cheaper to do the whole reaquiring process straight from these boxes. But if that means they'll keep haunting me for many more years.. maybe not.
 

Mvnl

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Oh anyone who saw my collection (or how it's so badly organised) would think I have hoarding issues anyway!
I did read a book (Stuff) on the matter recently and the 'fear of forgetting' and 'more than average attachment/feelings of comfort in physical things' is definitely there.

I wouldn't think badly organised when thinking of you and collecting though!
 
I did read a book (Stuff) on the matter recently and the 'fear of forgetting' and 'more than average attachment/feelings of comfort in physical things' is definitely there.
It's a thing alright. I've decided to embrace it. Basically it's just as well because I don't have a lot else now and this way of doing things I've settled into is keeping me sane and giving me the energy I need to deal with life.

In the end, it comes down to what works best for the individual. Rules and advice set by others are fine as a general guide, and things can be gleaned from them, but we're all a bit different.
 

Mvnl

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It's a thing alright. I've decided to embrace it. Basically it's just as well because I don't have a lot else now and this way of doing things I've settled into is keeping me sane and giving me the energy I need to deal with life.

In the end, it comes down to what works best for the individual. Rules and advice set by others are fine as a general guide, and things can be gleaned from them, but we're all a bit different.

True.
Another thing I actually discussed recently..
This whole process was sooo much easier when I went blindly with Marie Kondo's rules (though I found myself constantly checking with others if I 'was getting it right'), but despite it doing wonders for the way my home now looks, when it came to CDs I ended up with a slight feeling of 'wait, did I do what I wanted here or just what I felt I 'should' be doing?'.
Which is kinda silly cause the whole concept of 'keep what makes you happy' is pretty personal overall.
This time I try to focus more on 'what do I want' but that also means no real guidelines and so I just end up drifting all over the place. Like I badly wanna make my own calls, but I still need some sort of guidelines/rules to not go completely crazy?

Overall 99% of what's now on my shelves are albums I care about, if I blindly pick any of them it's very likely to be one I at least like quite a bit, when before I'd have to pick 3 or 4 more times to get one that made me feel more than 'eh...' so I don't think the narrowing down itself is a bad move here. Just the criteria.. ugh.

I think I'm kinda fine embracing the fact I like owning a lot of CDs even if I can't rationally really defend it, but there is some pain(?) in acknowledging some of the ones I bought (whether it was for completions sake or just for the thrill of having something new) really don't do much for me anymore cause it also kinda makes me realize I may feel the very same way about some of the ones I'm buying right now one day? And then it all starts feeling very 'what's the point' and.. nope. Not helpful.
I even decided against going through my NOWs one by one because even though the full playthrough made me realize there were plenty of volumes I could happily do without: I JUST GOT THEM. At least it kinda stopped my enthusiasm to collect the older and newer ones as well (for now).
 
I’ve toyed with the idea of actually putting all my CDs into more of a storage solution than just out in shelves as they are at present - logic being that I rip them all to digital when I buy them and they aren’t always played that often. Certainly the girlfriend would like the extra room. I just tell her to be pleased my vinyl collection doesn’t match my CDs…

But I just appreciate the comfort blanket of having them ‘there’ to flip through and though I do keep a reasonable amount of music on my phone there will always be a prompt to listen to an album that isn’t to hand other than on CD. And I do like the ‘library’ look that it gives the room. Not sure what the final prompt would be to actually do this!
 
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