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James Gunn's DCU TV / Movie Discussion
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I just wanted to say that they only use they/them, it and zir pronouns. I'm not attacking you or anything, I just wanted to help clear that up.
I'm still not sure how to feel about this movie or even to see it. I'm excited for all the Batman stuff and all the other characters, but I've never been sold on this universe's Flash and Ezra's continued attachment to it despite everything they've done has definitely turned me off it. I'll probably wait until it's on HBO Max to watch it for thr Batman stuff unless my family decides they wanna see it.
That trailer looks like one of the most garishly ugly things I've seen in a good minute. Keaton's Batman in broad daylight is a thing that no one needed to see.
It’s ok. When I wrote it I went back and edited it but some I didn’t see. It was an honest mistake.
Yeah I'm not seeing what the rest of you are seeing with this. It looks like explosions, cameos and the weird Whedon characterisation of Barry Allen. Fun?
I do think that DC is really suffering by letting Marvel get the jump on them with so many of these concepts like the multiverse, bringing back previous versions of characters and even Quicksilver's super speed scenes have stacked the deck against Flash. . .and that's before you get to the criminal headlining the film.
I have never been a fan of The Flash as a character nor was I ever that into Ezra's version of the character, but I did love Flashpoint Paradox and I do think this trailer has some interesting stuff in it. The reviews saying this movie is excellent also have me interested, although we won't know if that is just WB-fueled PR or actually legitimate positive criticism until we see some real reviews.
Some sources are saying it's better than they expected and they were pleasantly surprised. I feel like a lot of people going in to watch this will have that level of low expectation, it's inevitable after all the drama and delays.
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Yes, fuck that all the way out of here. It's what we suspected was going to happen. The worst part of that is the praise for their "dedication and professionalism while under a lot of pressure". Yeah, pressure that should have seen them removed from the role and potentially in prison. And they were under pressure? Not the people they'd hurt along the way, no? Fucking hell, that is gross.
I'm in the same boat. I can't lie, I think the trailer made it look fun and a movie that I'd want to see. But I'm not giving any money to support it.
Yeah I’m not giving them my money. I will watch it when it’s on streaming for free but I won’t rent it or see it at the theater.
I'm very torn about seeing FLASH.
On the one hand, I think it's garbage that Ezra appears to be experiencing no consequences for their actions. If they really have sought out help and turned over a new leaf, that's wonderful, but they're certainly keeping it to themselves if that's the case (though admittedly, that's probably WB's strategy – "don't say a fucking word to the press."). Still, it's obviously a very dark cloud hanging over the whole thing.
On the other hand, however, Christina Hodson wrote the script...which is by all accounts FABULOUS. For those unfamiliar, she wrote Birds of Prey, which was also amazing, yet unfairly derided by neckbeards "becuz women." She also wrote Batgirl, which was unfairly shitcanned by Zaslav to fund half his salary last year.
She's a super talented (BIPOC female) writer, and I would hate for any movie she writes – especially one that could be her "last chance" film, as is often the case in situations like this – to tank. Through no fault of her own, everything with her name on it (sans perhaps Bumblebee) has failed. She's been dealt a super unfair hand by The Hollywood gods, and deserves to keep writing films.
Sigh.
On the one hand, I think it's garbage that Ezra appears to be experiencing no consequences for their actions. If they really have sought out help and turned over a new leaf, that's wonderful, but they're certainly keeping it to themselves if that's the case (though admittedly, that's probably WB's strategy – "don't say a fucking word to the press."). Still, it's obviously a very dark cloud hanging over the whole thing.
On the other hand, however, Christina Hodson wrote the script...which is by all accounts FABULOUS. For those unfamiliar, she wrote Birds of Prey, which was also amazing, yet unfairly derided by neckbeards "becuz women." She also wrote Batgirl, which was unfairly shitcanned by Zaslav to fund half his salary last year.
She's a super talented (BIPOC female) writer, and I would hate for any movie she writes – especially one that could be her "last chance" film, as is often the case in situations like this – to tank. Through no fault of her own, everything with her name on it (sans perhaps Bumblebee) has failed. She's been dealt a super unfair hand by The Hollywood gods, and deserves to keep writing films.
Sigh.
Apologies for the double post, but:
I finally watched the finale of TITANS, and...it died the way it lived: making little sense, squandering classic villains, focusing on the wrong things, and completely mishandling the characters and their powers.
RIP, you disaster of a show about my favorite comic book ever.
I finally watched the finale of TITANS, and...it died the way it lived: making little sense, squandering classic villains, focusing on the wrong things, and completely mishandling the characters and their powers.
RIP, you disaster of a show about my favorite comic book ever.
It was always a mess, wasn’t it?
I basically only watched this last season to see Conor Leslie's Donna return, and...she never did.
Raven and Tim got costumes in (checks notes) the last episodes of the entire show. They brought back inter dimensional demon lord Trigon for...11 seconds, only to be killed by a computer nerd. Gar spent the climax of the final episode attempting to pull cables out of a plug and going "it's too hard, I can't!" while I shouted "TURN INTO A FUCKING GORILLA!!!" at my tv for twenty minutes.
I adore Ana Diop (truly one of the most gorgeous women on television) and enjoyed her performance, but...that character was not Kory (neither the annoying naive cartoon Kory, nor the passionate bezerker warrior of the Wolfman/Perez days). Plus I hated her costume, and the fact that she never ONCE had actual star bolts made me angry. Why did we give Starfire (checks notes) blue flame powers? Come on. Ana was done dirty (though at least she got to hook up with Brendan).
Despite having some of the best superhero costumes ever on TV, most everything else about that show was a garbage fire.
I hope Gunn's new DC plan includes a live action Titans project worthy of their legacy (the new comic relaunch will hopefully help boost their rep).
Raven and Tim got costumes in (checks notes) the last episodes of the entire show. They brought back inter dimensional demon lord Trigon for...11 seconds, only to be killed by a computer nerd. Gar spent the climax of the final episode attempting to pull cables out of a plug and going "it's too hard, I can't!" while I shouted "TURN INTO A FUCKING GORILLA!!!" at my tv for twenty minutes.
I adore Ana Diop (truly one of the most gorgeous women on television) and enjoyed her performance, but...that character was not Kory (neither the annoying naive cartoon Kory, nor the passionate bezerker warrior of the Wolfman/Perez days). Plus I hated her costume, and the fact that she never ONCE had actual star bolts made me angry. Why did we give Starfire (checks notes) blue flame powers? Come on. Ana was done dirty (though at least she got to hook up with Brendan).
Despite having some of the best superhero costumes ever on TV, most everything else about that show was a garbage fire.
I hope Gunn's new DC plan includes a live action Titans project worthy of their legacy (the new comic relaunch will hopefully help boost their rep).
Looks like they’re starting to cast Superman. I’m more nervous / excited for the Lois casting than anyone else!! Rachel Brosnahan would be my pick from the above crew because I think she has the most … bite, but none are jumping out at me. Emma and Samara don’t feel right for the role at all.
Love her usually, but I stand by the fact that Amy Adams was a massive miscast. Just totally wrong for the role, as excellent as she usually is. The role was also very badly written. Kate Bosworth was genuinely quite brilliant in hindsight in my opinion. I do still lament the lost trilogy we could’ve had with her and Brandon at the helm because they were both great.
I’m still a bit apprehensive about Gunn’s Superman. I just really want a sincere, beautifully shot, art-deco-filled Superman movie with a strongly realised Metropolis. I want the Superman version of The Batman. And Gunn’s films so far have just been a bit … silly. I like them, but I’m not sure the tone is right for Superman.
I was rewatching The Incredibles recently, and the first twenty minutes of that would kinda be my moodboard for a new Superman movie.
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Amy Adams was a solid Lois who had to deal with the talent and personality vacuum that is Henry Cavill and the diabolical writing for her character arc.