janet. the discography rate.

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Singer. Songwriter. Producer. Dancer. Performer. Actress. Activist. Ally. Mother. Mutha.

ICON.

Ms. Janet Damita Jo Jackson has shaped pop music as we know it for over three decades. Breaking boundaries muscially and socially. Her first two “proper” records shaped the New Jack Swing genre as we know it. Janet’s influence is still felt in music today, whether it be music, tackling social issues, music videos, performances, fashion... you name it, Janet likely did it before your fave (and better). the list of artists she's inspired is long... Britney Spears, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lopez, Tinashe, Kelela, practically the entirety of k-pop was made in the image of Janet's (and her brother's) performance artistry… how many of those artists are regularly discussed today by us on this forum ,and pretty much any pop music community? All of them.

So yeah, get the picture? Good, let’s dance.


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Control
(1986)


Control
Nasty
What Have You Done for Me Lately
You Can Be Mine
The Pleasure Principle
When I Think of You
He Doesn’t Know I’m Alive
Let’s Wait Awhile
Funny How Time Flies (When You’re Having Fun)

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Rhythm Nation 1814
(1989)


Rhythm Nation
State of the World
The Knowledge
Miss You Much
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Livin’ In A World (They Didn’t Make)
Alright
Escapade
Black Cat
Lonely
Come Back to Me
Someday Is Tonight

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janet.
(1993)


That’s the Way Love Goes
You Want This
If
This Time
Throb
What’ll I Do
Funky Big Band
New Agenda
Because of Love
Again
Where Are You Now
The Body That Loves You
Any Time, Any Place
Whoops Now

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The Velvet Rope
(1997)


Velvet Rope (feat. Vanessa-Mae)
You
Got Til’ It’s Gone (feat. Q-Tip & Joni Mitchell)
My Need
Go Deep
Free Xone
Together Again
Empty
What About
Every Time
Tonight’s the Night
I Get Lonely
Rope Burn
Anything
Special
Can’t Be Stopped
God’s Stepchild

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All For You
(2001)


You Ain’t Right
All For You
Come On Get Up
When We Oooo
China Love
Love Scene (Oooh Baby)
Would You Mind
Trust a Try
Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You) (feat. Carly Simon)
Truth
Someone to Call My Lover
Feels So Right
Doesn’t Really Matter
Better Days
Who

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Damita Jo
(2004)


Damita Jo
Sexhibition
Strawberry Bounce
My Baby (feat. Kanye West)
Spending Time With You
Island Life
All Nite (Don’t Stop)
R&B Junkie
I Want You
Like You Don’t Love Me
Thinkin’ Bout My Ex
Warmth
Moist
Truly
SloLove
Just a Little While
I’m Here
Put Your Hands On

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20 Y.O.
(2006)


So Excited (feat. Khia)
Show Me
Get It Out Me
Do It 2 Me
This Body
With U
Call on Me (feat. Nelly)
Daybreak
Enjoy
Take Care
Love 2 Love
Roll Witchu
Days Go By

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Discipline
(2008)


Feedback
LUV
Rollercoaster
Rock With U
2nite
Can’t B Good
Never Letchu Go
Greatest X
So Much Betta
The 1 (feat. Missy Elliott)
What’s Ur Name
Discipline
Curtains
Let Me Know

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Unbreakable
(2015)


Unbreakable
BURNITUP! (feat. Missy Elliott)
Dammn Baby
The Great Forever
Shoulda Known Better
After You Fall
Broken Hearts Heal
Night
No Sleeep (feat. J. Cole)
Dream Maker / Euphoria
2 B Loved
Take Me Away
Lessons Learned
Black Eagle
Well Travelled
Gon’ B Alright
Promise of You
Love U 4 Life

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B-Sides, Soundtracks, Compilations, Features, etc.

Start Anew
Diamonds (with Herb Alpert)
Making Love In the Rain (with Herb Alpert)
You Need Me
The Skin Game
The Best Things In Life Are Free (with Luther Vandross)
One More Chance
70’s Love Groove
And On And On
Scream (with Michael Jackson)
Runaway
Twenty Fourplay
Accept Me
Ask For More
Together Again (DJ Premier 100 In A 50 Remix)
Together Again (Jimmy Jam Deeper Remix)
What’s It Gonna Be? (with Busta Rhymes)
Luv Me, Luv Me (with Shaggy)
Girlfriend/Boyfriend (with Blackstreet, feat. Ja Rule and Eve)
Feel It Boy (with Beenie Man)
Don’t Worry (with Chingy)
Weekend
Make Me
Nothing
Made for Now (feat. Daddy Yankee)


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1. Score every song between 0-10.
Half points (x.5) are allowed but nothing smaller. You are allowed to give ONE song the coveted 11. Choose wisely. Some songs received remixes when they were released as singles, the versions in the Spotify and Youtube playlists are the album and music video versions respectively, but feel free to rate whatever version you like best. The Together Again remixes are a special case because the song’s structure and melodies have been completely reworked, so they warrant to be rated separately.

2. Do NOT troll.
Any ballot that only gives extreme scores with no nuances (i.e. handing out 10s/9s to songs they like and 0s/1s to songs they don’t), tanking a certain album/era of Janet’s career knowing it’s a fan favourite, or if your overall scoring average is below 6 will have your ballot questioned and possibly discarded without a good explaination.

3. Only commentary is allowed for your 11.
We’re rating 150+ songs here, so trying to organize commentary for all those songs would be a nightmare for me. Let’s save all our discussion and thoughts for this thread, it keeps the thread active. It’s what an artist of Janet’s calibre deserves.

4. Send your scores with the PM list below and nothing else.
This just makes inputting scores into my spreadsheet a lot easier, so please use it.

Control -
Nasty -
What Have You Done for Me Lately -
You Can Be Mine -
The Pleasure Principle -
When I Think of You -
He Doesn’t Know I’m Alive -
Let’s Wait Awhile -
Funny How Time Flies (When You’re Having Fun) -
Rhythm Nation -
State of the World -
The Knowledge -
Miss You Much -
Love Will Never Do (Without You) -
Livin’ In A World (They Didn’t Make) -
Alright -
Escapade -
Black Cat -
Lonely -
Come Back to Me -
Someday Is Tonight -
That’s the Way Love Goes -
You Want This -
If -
This Time -
Throb -
What’ll I Do -
Funky Big Band -
New Agenda -
Because of Love -
Again -
Where Are You Now -
The Body That Loves You -
Any Time, Any Place -
Whoops Now -
Velvet Rope (feat. Vanessa-Mae) -
You -
Got Til’ It’s Gone (feat. Q-Tip & Joni Mitchell) -
My Need -
Go Deep -
Free Xone -
Together Again -
Empty -
What About -
Every Time -
Tonight’s the Night -
I Get Lonely -
Rope Burn -
Anything -
Special -
Can’t Be Stopped -
God’s Stepchild -
You Ain’t Right -
All For You -
Come On Get Up -
When We Oooo -
China Love -
Love Scene (Oooh Baby) -
Would You Mind -
Trust a Try -
Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You) (feat. Carly Simon) -
Truth -
Someone to Call My Lover -
Feels So Right -
Doesn’t Really Matter -
Better Days -
Who -
Damita Jo -
Sexhibition -
Strawberry Bounce -
My Baby (feat. Kanye West) -
Spending Time With You -
Island Life -
All Nite (Don’t Stop) -
R&B Junkie -
I Want You -
Like You Don’t Love Me -
Thinkin’ Bout My Ex -
Warmth -
Moist -
Truly -
SloLove -
Just a Little While -
I’m Here -
Put Your Hands On -
So Excited (feat. Khia) -
Show Me -
Get It Out Me -
Do It 2 Me -
This Body -
With U -
Call on Me (feat. Nelly) -
Daybreak -
Enjoy -
Take Care -
Love 2 Love -
Roll Witchu -
Days Go By -
Feedback -
LUV -
Rollercoaster -
Rock With U -
2nite -
Can’t B Good -
Never Letchu Go -
Greatest X -
So Much Betta -
The 1 (feat. Missy Elliott) -
What’s Ur Name -
Discipline -
Curtains -
Let Me Know -
Unbreakable -
BURNITUP! (feat. Missy Elliott) -
Dammn Baby -
The Great Forever -
Shoulda Known Better -
After You Fall -
Broken Hearts Heal -
Night -
No Sleeep (feat. J. Cole) -
Dream Maker / Euphoria -
2 B Loved -
Take Me Away -
Lessons Learned -
Black Eagle -
Well Travelled -
Gon’ B Alright -
Promise of You -
Love U 4 Life -
Start Anew -
Diamonds (with Herb Alpert) -
Making Love In the Rain (with Herb Alpert) -
You Need Me -
The Skin Game -
The Best Things In Life Are Free (with Luther Vandross) -
One More Chance -
70’s Love Groove -
And On And On -
Scream (with Michael Jackson) -
Runaway -
Twenty Fourplay -
Accept Me -
Ask For More -
Together Again (DJ Premier 100 In A 50 Remix) -
Together Again (Jimmy Jam Deeper Remix) -
What’s It Gonna Be? (with Busta Rhymes) -
Luv Me, Luv Me (with Shaggy) -
Girlfriend/Boyfriend (with Blackstreet, feat. Ja Rule and Eve) -
Feel It Boy (with Beenie Man) -
Don’t Worry (with Chingy) -
Weekend -
Make Me -
Nothing -
Made for Now (feat. Daddy Yankee) -

5. Submit your ballot by the 31st of July 2023 12am AEST.
I am open to giving an extention if people need one.

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The Spotify playlist is missing the following songs: Who, I'm Here, Roll Witchu, Days Go By, Promise of You, Love U 4 Life, Start Anew, One More Chance, Ask for More, Weekend and Nothing. The YouTube playlist has everything.




I hope you enjoy this as much as I do...
Are we ready?
I am.
 
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SONGS
1. If – 9.918
2. All Nite (Don't Stop) – 9.659
3. All for You – 9.648
4. That's the Way Love Goes – 9.618
5. Love Will Never Do (Without You) – 9.545
6. Miss You Much – 9.545
7. Rhythm Nation – 9.54
8. Together Again – 9.5
9. Escapade – 9.477
10. The Pleasure Principle – 9.466
11. Got 'til It's Gone (feat. Joni Mitchell & Q-Tip) – 8.318
12. Throb – 9.307
13. Nasty – 9.295
14. Someone to Call My Lover – 9.295
15. Go Deep – 9.25
16. Doesn't Really Matter – 9.245
17. Velvet Rope – 9.182
18. I Get Lonely – 9.089
19. Night – 8.973
20. When I Think of You – 8.966
21. Runaway – 8.955
22. Feedback – 8.955
23. R&B Junkie – 8.936
24. No Sleeep (feat. J. Cole) – 8.932
25. Control – 8.898
26. Rock With U – 8.841
27. You – 8.807
28. Empty – 8.784
29. What Have You Done for Me Lately – 8.773
30. Black Cat – 8.767
31. Alright – 8.75
32. Any Time, Any Place – 8.727
33. This Time – 8.716
34. Come Back to Me – 8.636
35. What About – 8.591
36. Let's Wait Awhile – 8.545
37. You Want This – 8.527
38. Come On Get Up – 8.511
39. Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You) (feat. Carly Simon)– 8.464
40. Trust a Try – 8.455
41. Take Me Away – 8.424
42. State of the World – 8.398
43. Rope Burn – 8.392
44. BURNITUP! (feat. Missy Elliott) – 8.375
45. Shoulda Known Better – 8.341
46. New Agenda – 8.301
47. Dammn Baby – 8.27
48. Free Xone – 8.244
49. SloLove – 8.176
50. The Great Forever – 8.176
51. Because of Love – 8.17
52. My Need – 8.136
53. Made for Now (feat. Daddy Yankee) – 8.12
54. The Knowledge – 8.097
55. Lonely – 8.085
56. Enjoy – 8.066
57. Unbreakable – 8.057
58. Make Me – 8.045
59. Island Life – 8.04
60. Twenty Foreplay – 8.034
61. Again – 8.032
62. Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun) – 8.028
63. Tonight's the Night – 8.023
64. Just a Little While – 7.966
65. Where Are You Now – 7.961
66. Broken Hearts Heal – 7.949
67. Put Your Hands On – 7.938
68. I Want You – 7.938
69. So Excited (feat. Khia) – 7.886
70. The Best Things In Life Are Free (with Luther Vandross) – 7.841
71. Better Days – 7.835
72. Scream (with Michael Jackson) – 7.83
73. Every Time – 7.727
74. You Ain't Right – 7.682
75. Feels So Right – 7.659
76. Daybreak – 7.658
77. When We Oooo – 7.631
78. Someday Is Tonight – 7.619
79. Diamonds (with Herb Alpert) – 7.58
80. Funky Big Band – 7.568
81. Anything – 7.534
82. Strawberry Bounce – 7.511
83. Can't Be Stopped – 7.472
84. Sexhibition – 7.444
85. LUV – 7.443
86. And On & On – 7.409
87. 2 B Loved – 7.369
88. Together Again (DJ Premier 100 In A 50 Remix) – 7.324
89. Accept Me – 7.318
90. Spending Time With You – 7.301
91. '70s Love Groove – 7.29
92. What'll I Do – 7.284
93. Who – 7.284
94. Special – 7.261
95. What's It Gonna Be?! (with Busta Rhymes) – 7.261
96. Days Go By – 7.256
97. Get It Out Me – 7.227
98. After You Fall – 7.222
99. Damita Jo – 7.213
100. Lessons Learned – 7.21
101. You Can Be Mine – 7.199
102. Well Travelled – 7.165
103. Like You Don't Love Me – 7.159
104. Together Again (Jimmy Jam Deeper Remix) – 7.142
105. 2nite – 7.138
106. Black Eagle – 7.134
107. The Body That Loves You – 7.115
108. Take Care – 7.114
109. You Need Me – 7.114
110. Gon B Alright – 7.091
111. He Doesn't Know I'm Alive – 7.068
112. Whoops Now – 7.068
113. Moist – 7.057
114. China Love – 7.028
115. Livin' In a World (They Didn't Make) – 7.023
116. Dream Maker / Euphoria – 6.994
117. Call On Me (feat. Nelly) – 6.975
118. With U – 6.972
119. Promise of You – 6.97
120. So Much Betta – 6.955
121. One More Chance – 6.955
122. Ask for More – 6.92
123. Making Love In the Rain (with Herb Alpert) – 6.864
124. Roll Witchu – 6.852
125. Do It 2 Me – 6.813
126. Start Anew – 6.813
127. Truth – 6.791
128. Show Me – 6.778
129. My Baby (feat. Kanye West) – 6.716
130. Would You Mind – 6.67
131. This Body – 6.653
132. Rollercoaster – 6.653
133. Can't B Good – 6.597
134. Girlfriend/Boyfriend (with Blackstreet) – 6.591
135. Love U 4 Life – 6.551
136. The Skin Game – 6.489
137. Love 2 Love – 6.455
138. Thinkin' Bout My Ex – 6.436
139. I'm Here – 6.313
140. Truly – 6.29
141. Let Me Know – 6.193
142. Weekend – 6.159
143. The 1 (feat. Missy Elliott) – 6.1
144. What's Ur Name – 6.017
145. Luv Me, Luv Me (with Shaggy) – 5.92
146. Warmth – 5.761
147. Curtains – 5.744
148. God's Stepchild – 5.705
149. Discipline – 5.705
150. Nothing – 5.631
151. Love Scene (Oooh Baby) – 5.528
152. Never Letchu Go – 5.475
153. Feel It Boy (with Beenie Man) – 5.278
154. Don't Worry (with Chingy) – 4.994
155. Greatest X – 4.847

ALBUMS
Rhythm Nation 1814 – 8.624
Control – 8.471
janet. – 8.308
The Velvet Rope – 8.185
All for You – 7.907
Unbreakable – 7.733
Damita Jo – 7.436
20 Y.O. – 7.131
Discipline – 6.618​
 
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This rate has been in the making for a very long time and I'm so happy we are finally able to rate Janet's discography in full. I didn't grow up a Janet stan, I discovered her music properly around 7 years ago, and to say that my life was changed forever after being exposed to her artistry would be an understatement. I am indebted to Janet's music, it got me through a particularly rough period in my life, whether it was a need to escape from the shit happening in the real world or as motivation to get my life in order.

The good sis @RainOnFire is acting as my back up host should anything come up in real life and I cannot finish the rate, so please give them all your love too! We've been talking about this rate for a while now and we're really excited to finally do it.

*insert funny Janet gif here as currently imgur links are not working for some reason and the ATRL cigs all seem to use imgur to host their gifs*
 
I did my scores for this rate back in 2020 when we thought Black Diamond is coming soon. But I have to re-do them since i had just discovered her at the time and didn't give enough time to the early albums to grow on me.
 
Oh my word I cannot wait to watch this unfold!

I know 90% of her discography inside out and back to front so this possibly won’t be too time consuming for me but I will for sure use this as an excuse to just listen to everything again (several times over) to double check my opinions… there are also a few songs in the extras section I’m not too familiar with so that’s a nice dimension for me to explore.

I know what my 11 is going to be for sure…
 
I actually feel rotted trying to do some of these scores. I've never been a "use the whole scale" person when it comes to rates, especially a discography rate (and I'm certainly not doing so here), but with such a mammoth amount of quality material, there has to be some difference between the best of the best and the just great.

I'm probably being dramatic. On my first pass through I think I gave out 4-5 scores under a 6 total, but it feels nasty pun intended to give some of these legendary songs only an 8 in comparison to all the 10s that are on display, ya know?
 
I actually feel rotted trying to do some of these scores. I've never been a "use the whole scale" person when it comes to rates, especially a discography rate (and I'm certainly not doing so here), but with such a mammoth amount of quality material, there has to be some difference between the best of the best and the just great.

I'm probably being dramatic. On my first pass through I think I gave out 4-5 scores under a 6 total, but it feels nasty pun intended to give some of these legendary songs only an 8 in comparison to all the 10s that are on display, ya know?
When @nikkysan discards our ballots as fraudulent for scoring too many tens but we were actually being serious.

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I actually feel rotted trying to do some of these scores. I've never been a "use the whole scale" person when it comes to rates, especially a discography rate (and I'm certainly not doing so here), but with such a mammoth amount of quality material, there has to be some difference between the best of the best and the just great.

I'm probably being dramatic. On my first pass through I think I gave out 4-5 scores under a 6 total, but it feels nasty pun intended to give some of these legendary songs only an 8 in comparison to all the 10s that are on display, ya know?

I feel this on a spiritual level. Like... the first 4 albums alone??? I have to somehow whittle some of those songs which would be 11/10s in most other artists discographies down to like... 8s and 7s? Impossible.
 

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