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Jesy Nelson - Boyz (feat. Nicki Minaj)

Discussion in 'Pop & Justice' started by Felp, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. Yeah, I think the poster was trying to call out ageism rather than be agesit themselves. 30 is usually fine though I find. It's when the pop girlies hit the mid to late thirties that they often start to struggle getting the same support from what I've noticed.
     
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  2. It's the sad truth especially in the UK. Radio 1 is allergic to playing women over 30 unless it's a 'throwback' segment or show but have no problem spamming Adam Levine all year long.
     
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  3. Sis, I stan mostly popstars above 30 ddd I'm just saying that pop music, most especially radio is notorious for looking towards investing in younger artists, partly market-driven (because music's main market relates to younger artists) and partly ageism in radio and media.

    You can find quite a lot of artists who debuted in their teens/20s continue to find success (in varying degrees) in their 30s, but debuts are a different story.
     
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  4. I can’t really think of many female popstars over the age of 35 who get regular Spotify playlist support - Pink, I guess and probably Beyoncé when she eventually releases a new album (I’m interested to see how they treat Katy when she releases something new).
     
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  5. Don’t sis me. It’s condescending.

    I just initially found it weird, because it initially sounded like 30 is some ancient age rather than one year out of a person’s twenties. Glad you cleared that up for me, though.
    Never said it wasn’t true. I know how ageism in pop music generally works, but I’m specifically talking about the way @An Insider’s post sounded.
    Yeah, 30 seems like a fine age to be, even for someone making their solo debut. I agree.
     
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  6. 2014

    2014 Staff Member

    Yeah....all these draggings and memes coming out as a result of everything she does, I do really hope her state of mind has at least improved somewhat; she should be allowed to follow a solo career if that’s what she really wants, and yes there’s still multiple issues (blackfishing, Nicki backlash, paying Little Mix dust) which aren’t helping with her popularity or being able to be taking her seriously at the moment, but it is hard to see how this all...doesn’t end badly. Her age is the last thing she and her team should be worrying about.
     
  7. The way she's delayed the single's release date at least twice already I feel has dampened some of her hype. When things were rolling (around a week before Little Mix's anniversary) and it seemed like she was on the verge of announcing/releasing it felt like she had a real buzz but it seems to be falling apart a bit.
     
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  8. I agree.

    Jesy should've released in late August as was planned and Little Mix should've gone in early October. Both of them lost.
     
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  9. Does "if she releases on Little Mix's anniversary she's toast" count as buzz?

    Which did I not say at the time was bull and the reaction to their lil anniversary was tumbleweed? ddd
     
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  10. I just feel like Jesy has put herself in this dangerous position where she’s alienated everyone who probably could have been her fans. Who’s even fighting her corner anymore? She’s angered 90% of Little Mix fans, Twitter music journos / gays are rightfully still perturbed by her black-fishing, and the Mums and general public think she’s retired from the spotlight forever in the name of mental health which couldn’t be further from the truth. I worry for her.
     
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  11. I apologize and didn’t mean to sound condescending!

    Maybe not exactly 30, but around that age is when I observed most pop females get their last lap on radio. As for debuts, I can’t think of any big debut by someone who wasn’t in their 20s at least in the last two decades, aside from the mentioned Gwen, JLo and Fergie, who weren’t already globally popular*.

    That’s not to say she shouldn’t bother going solo for her art or her livelihood, I’m just not sure if she’ll be a huge world-conquering smash, but then again, maybe those aren’t their goals/expectations, anyway.

    *I’m actually not sure if all three were already super popular outside the United States. I assume Jesy is looking at the UK as her main market, who already know her so her being a big UK solo star is probably still very realistic.
     
  12. I don't think anyone outside the core fans are feeling 'the buzz has died down'.
     
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  13. Gaga did fine on Spotify with Chromatica and is headed for 40. I think there's always some rare exceptions.

    Gen Z still adore Nicki Minaj, Kacey Musgraves, Lizzo, etc who aren't exactly 21.
     
  14. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    Because they never felt buzz in the first place? There is a reason she's using a classic R&B hit as a sample/interpolation, including Nicki, and why she was saying "this is [my] authentic lane musically" too. She was trying to create a fire around her, and I'm not sure every variable is in her favor right now.
     
  15. Exactly. I don't think the GP is eagerly anticipating what Jesy Nelson will bring out as her solo single.
     
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  16. The fact that there is so much to discuss about a popstar who has...no music?!
     
  17. I don't think her age matters, nor do I think anyone cares, or even knows her age in the first place nn. Her and the Little Mix girls still come across as mid 20s to me
     
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  18. Good God she’s 35!
     
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  19. I'm not sure any variable is in her favour right now nn
     
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  20. Which is closer to 40 than 30! Sorry I wasn’t being ageist (intentionally) just trying to make a point that Jesy at 30 shouldn’t be worried about radio support for her age.

    My last concerts before the pandemic were Cher and Madonna so I wouldn’t ever care an artists age. In fact, I can’t really get into the newer acts because they feel too young for me.
     
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