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Jesy Nelson (...)

Discussion in 'Pop & Justice' started by Felp, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    They said she’s in “white mode”. The internet y’all

  2. For her to flop into oblivion and actually stop blackfishing would be a win/win situation.
  3. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    The sad thing is she actually looks fine with her own tone and without the exaggerated wigs. Like, she really fucked herself over for no true reason. And to side with the woman that's about to get obliterated in court? It's pure foolishness.
  4. Aside from Jesy, I just feel Nicki is the one who should really be coping the flack as much as Jesy. Nicki just comes across as a horrible and reactive person.
    Wow, not to focus on appearance as I know some will come at me etc, but her natural skin here looks gorgeous.

    While she has been quite silly, I still wish her well and hope she has good and positive support around her. 4# is pretty good, and hope she picks future material and styles that are appropriate.
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  5. I still don’t really understand what the bubbling under chart is?
  6. Mr.Arroz

    Mr.Arroz Staff Member

    The Hot 100 tracks the top 100 consumed songs for the respective tracking week. The 'bubbling under' tracks those just outside the Hot 100. So #13 on that chart would be #113 on the Hot 100.
  7. I think to be on the bubbling under chart the song can never have charted on the hot 100. So number 1 on the bubbling under isn’t necessarily number 101 overall as number 101 is likely a song that has previously charted on the hot 100.
  8. You're correct. A song can enter the Hot 100 from the Bubbling Under Chart, but you can't fall from the Hot 100 to the Bubbling Under chart. It's essentially just a "you tried" star.
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  9. But since she’s not an established US artist isn’t #13 on the bubbling under chart quite good with her first solo track?
  10. It's not the #13 itself... It's the fact that she killed her credibility for a debut on the bubbling under!
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  11. Don't forget Nicki is on the track too. With her crazy fanbase she's usually good for a chart placement but this is just... karma.
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  12. This, but it's Jesy's

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  13. This whole era already feels like it happened for a brief unfortunate moment months ago. Truly a weekend-long solo career.
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  14. What "credibility" did she have? She was one quarter of a group who have been - at best - moderately successful in the US (and less so with each album era). There was no one over there at the edge of their seat waiting for her to launch a solo career. And anyone from the UK who's broken that market has done so by offering the US something they don't have already. Not by reheating stuff by American acts from 20 years ago. Even if the song was good she'd have had a mountain to climb.

    As for #13 on the Bubbling Under chart being a good start - how does she build from here? Is she likely to get any major promo slots? I can't help feeling she's already played all the cards she has.
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  15. She has an established name with a rabid fanbase attached to the song, it's a bit naive of anyone that thinks Nicki wasn't put on there specifically for that reason and it didn't even help.
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2021
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  16. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    Also, songs that have been on the Hot 100 for more than 20 weeks are deleted from the chart if they fall below #50, and songs that have been on the chart for more than 52 weeks are deleted if they are going down the chart and fall below #25. (The deleted songs are then eligible to chart on the Hot 100 Recurrents chart.)

    So even #100 on the chart isn’t necessarily the song that would have been 100th based on just sales, streams and airplay. #13 on the Bubbling Under chart is therefore likely to have been well below #113 if not for the chart rules.
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2021
  17. Why are the American charts so confusing!
  18. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    Basically it’s a tactic to increase song turnover and prevent the same songs from clogging up the chart forever and blocking new songs from entering the chart.

    In the UK we don’t have this approach and so Mr Brightside has been on the chart for 84 years dddd.
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  19. matthew.

    matthew. Staff Member

    Remember when it was believed she'd hit #100 and then Adele would knock her out to the Bubbling Under?

    Last edited: Oct 19, 2021
  20. “Boyz” is simply taking time out for itself from its rightful place in the upper echelons of the Hot 100 - or, indeed, any chart - as a radical act of self-care.

    #mentalhealth #bekind
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