Joker: Folie À Deux

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Despite this being a a bit of a flop, I don't think it'll hurt Gaga too much. She has a new music era lined up, seems really locked in, happy and in a great head space. She also got to put her own stamp on this movie with the companion album, and has a cute smash hit with Bruno Mars which the GP are gobbling up. She'll be fine and people will move past this movie quickly. It won't plague her or put into question her movie career.
I don't think it will hurt her either. She's been getting good reviews and one of the common complaints is she is not used enough in the film.

This will definitely affect Phoenix more especially with the fallout from walking away the Todd Haynes film.
 
At least now I can say all 3 of my faves have been involved with movie bombs! Kelly with From Justin 2 Kelly, Taylor with Cats and Gaga with Joker FAD <3
 
I feel like people also just didn’t like Mariah at the time, and it still permeates through onto today even though more have seen the light. T*mmy M*t*la really did the most to drag her down.
 
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I don't know how to embed properly but Pop Base reported on Twitter that Todd said that Arthur was never meant to be the real Joker from the comic book or something like that.

He just made the movies about Arthur Fleck.
 
I don't think it will hurt her either. She's been getting good reviews and one of the common complaints is she is not used enough in the film.

This will definitely affect Phoenix more especially with the fallout from walking away the Todd Haynes film.

Wait, I thought Todd Haynes was the one who directed Joker... now I'm looking at Todd Phillips filmography like wow, that explains a lot.
 
Flop is a relative concept. It still managed to pull $116 mil so far worldwide and will probably end up around $220 mil. Will it still be losing tons of money? Yes but it's hardly a colossal flop that may lead to studio bankruptcy.
 
Flop is a relative concept. It still managed to pull $116 mil so far worldwide and will probably end up around $220 mil. Will it still be losing tons of money? Yes but it's hardly a colossal flop that may lead to studio bankruptcy.
But a flop being a relative concept is precisely why the movie is a flop. On paper $200m sounds great and if a $10m film made that everyone involved would be hooting and hollering. But $200m relative to its $200m budget is bad.
 
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Flop is a relative concept. It still managed to pull $116 mil so far worldwide and will probably end up around $220 mil. Will it still be losing tons of money? Yes but it's hardly a colossal flop that may lead to studio bankruptcy.
Okay but losing hundreds of millions of dollars is a flop. It might not bankrupt the studio but it is still a huge loss for a sequel to a movie which made over a billion and nabbed an Oscar.
 
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I’m honestly shocked that it’s doing so bad because if 1 billion people watched it surely the half of that amount could be curious enough to return?
 
I’m honestly shocked that it’s doing so bad because if 1 billion people watched it surely the half of that amount could be curious enough to return?
It is over 1 billion USD in total global revenue something, not 1 billion people viewers. A ticket is not 1$.
 
Yeah Hollywood would be salivating if they sold a billion tickets. It’s more likely 150 million people bought tickets for the original movie. Based on how it’s doing now probably 20 million people will see this? Stark comparison.
 
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Yeah Hollywood would be salivating if they sold a billion tickets. It’s more likely 150 million people bought tickets for the original movie. Based on how it’s doing now probably 20 million people will see this? Stark comparison.
Yes this is what I meant the numbers of sales based on audience and half of that, I just couldn’t be bothered typing the rest of the sentence to clarify so thanks BOTH!
 

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