Kim Petras - "brrr" + General Discussion

Her speech was very moving. I hate many of the ignorant things she has done and I cannot give her a pass for continually supporting abusers, but I am also cognizant of the fact that a transgender person winning a mainstream award is a huge moment. I can only hope she does better moving forward because she clearly is sticking around.
 
Her speech was very moving. I hate many of the ignorant things she has done and I cannot give her a pass for continually supporting abusers, but I am also cognizant of the fact that a transgender person winning a mainstream award is a huge moment. I can only hope she does better moving forward because she clearly is sticking around.

Exactly how I feel, thank you... she gets a lot of hate and I'm not here to defend her, but all I will say is I think every single one of us would be shocked with things our faves have said/done whether 3 min. or 23 years ago... very interesting when each of us has to look at our own way of "separating art from the artist" and the semantics of when said behavior happened and if it affects current art and vice versa... I mean Kim stans Paris and I legit cannot stand her behavior (and you also won't see me going off about Paris in a fan thread like I see with others...) just some thoughts I guess...
 
Exactly how I feel, thank you... she gets a lot of hate and I'm not here to defend her, but all I will say is I think every single one of us would be shocked with things our faves have said/done whether 3 min. or 23 years ago... very interesting when each of us has to look at our own way of "separating art from the artist" and the semantics of when said behavior happened and if it affects current art and vice versa... I mean Kim stans Paris and I legit cannot stand her behavior (and you also won't see me going off about Paris in a fan thread like I see with others...) just some thoughts I guess...
I mean, she has shown how vile of a person she is numerous times. She goes out of her way to say ignorant shit and she actively boosts / works with abusers. Most of my faves do not do that and they would not be my fave if they did. I wanted to acknowledge the nuances of the situation but let me be clear in saying it was no way a pass for her past.
 
I have no doubt some of my other faves have some real horrible opinions or beliefs. Difference between them and Kim is that I don't know about them because they haven't shown ignorance. On several occasions. And doubled down about it.
 
I just don't think Kim is that good. Period. She got really lucky with Sam in her corner because I still don't see it for her long-term, but something is clearly working behind the scenes in her favor, so ~break barriers~, I guess. The downgrade in basic quality from someone like Sophie to... that, is just laughable. She looks frumpy, every interview is headache-inducing, the music continues to erode into absolute slop... It's hard to clap for this quality of representation. I don't even actively dislike her, she just does absolutely nothing for me as an artist.
 
Her career does not have legs. She got a very lucky break with Sam Smith plucking her from the depths of being a C-lister among the vodka soda gays for a quick verse but there's absolutely nothing to suggest she has what it takes to stick around successfully.
 
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