Kim’s a hard one because yes she is trash we all agree but it’s hard to join in on the hate train when you see the world’s worst people hating her for being trans day in day out. Like does she deserve backlash and criticism? Yes. I’m not denying that for one second. Do I think she gets enough shit without me, an internet forum dweller who likes pop music joining in, also yes.
Kim Petras - Feed the Beast (Jun 23)
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And I don't mind people choosing not to get on the hate train. But that same user was defending Jesy Nelson too. It's like, "What makes you want to defend these problematic people so badly?" Nobody needs to hate her with the intensity that I do. But people defending her and rooting for her does rub me the wrong way. Like, we have to consider the enormity of the evil she has enabled and supported. This is not a problematic comment. She is literally supporting a rapist. I don't see how that doesn't click for some people. I'm really tired of some of the moral apathy and amorality of some pop fans.
It's also weird that some people still want to see her do well after inexcusably bad behavior. I have the same standard for her that I have for other people who act terribly. I don't care if she makes pop music. It's absurd how some people seem to think simply having made bops at that some point gives you moral leeway. She's just as bad as other people we heap abuse upon and worse than some.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, identity politics is not an excuse for being a shitty person. Time and time again she uses her gender identity to shield herself from perfectly valid criticism. The actual method in which she employs her platform does nothing for trans rights or gender equality, but instead reinforces the abusive and misogynist power structures that she's gleefully playing into.
This is why it bothers me when people act like her Grammy is some sort of diversity win. She's rewarded for playing ball with toxic, powerful men and while doing so is tokenized for her identity in saying she's breaking down barriers, when in truth she is rigidly upholding the status quo.
This is why it bothers me when people act like her Grammy is some sort of diversity win. She's rewarded for playing ball with toxic, powerful men and while doing so is tokenized for her identity in saying she's breaking down barriers, when in truth she is rigidly upholding the status quo.
This tea though.
Also, playing the "b-but she's trans" card infantilizes trans people, which is way more offensive than calling her frumpy. Cringey white liberals have done this with black people too, acting like we need to be shielded from criticism because we are minorities. I'm thinking, "No, fucking call us out when we fuck up." It's only when people call us out more than the dominant culture or with more intensity (kind of like the Beyonce Dubai situation) that it gets racist. Same thing with Kim's subject position.
Kim has been called out but for obvious fucked up reasons, she gets more leeway than say...Azealia Banks (of course I'm talking about the backlash they've gotten outside of PJ). People are happy to call her a monster whereas there's this weird reluctance when it comes to Kim. Her career has not been shut off and marginalized in the same way. Let's not forget that Kim has benefited from some degree of privilege as well.
Also, Sam giving Kim the opportunity that he did was wrong. People should not feature her until she apologizes for her behavior.
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Also, think about this same scenario if it was applied to life outside of pop. Everybody would be saying, "What a piece of fucking shit." But because of identity politics and POP, you get this weird and kind of creepy beating around the bush when it comes to Kim.
Pop music is music. Entertainment. It doesn't make anybody even slightly more virtuous.
Pop music is music. Entertainment. It doesn't make anybody even slightly more virtuous.
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Lowkey sounds like Madonna's "Burning Up" now dd. I don't hate it! The original version's production always felt flat (like much of the Problematique tracks)
I can't lie this is a solid bop and the first right since Future Starts Now.
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Sometimes good critique requires remembering the distance and boundaries between yourself and the subject.
Damn this remix of Je T’adore is so good!
What happened with Future Starts Now!? It felt like it would continue her on the path to delivering some actual good bops, and then everything after that just… I don’t really understand what happened.
Justice for Love Ya, Leave Ya!
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"Your Turn to Cry" would like a word.