Kylie: K25 Releases and Events.
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I still want a Britney duet.
Preferably Breathe On Me, since it's Steve Anderson anyway and I'm still bitter it was never released as a single. Haha.
Preferably Breathe On Me, since it's Steve Anderson anyway and I'm still bitter it was never released as a single. Haha.
Farnaby said:
I second all of this! I would love all her PWL albums reissued and remastered (they sound so quiet on my iPod) with a bonus disc of remixes and B-sides. We all know the orchestral album is coming but I would love the rumoured rarities album too. Kylie must have the most unreleased song back catalogue ever, enough to fill several "new" albums!
My other most wanted thing from K25 would be a comprehensive and complete DVD of all her videos. It is so annoying that for an artist like Kylie there are only a few incomplete greatest hits DVDs. Probably the best one is the Singles 87-98 but obviously that stops at her Deconstruction material. And I want everything on there eg Made In Heaven, It's No Secret, Word Is Out, What Kind of Fool, Where Is The Feeling, Where The Wild Roses Grow, Your Disco Needs You with no omissions. It would be fantastic if she could do a commentary for them like the Pet Shop Boys' Pop Art DVD. That was such a good package featuring everything by them and Kylie deserves the same!
Don't be stupid, she's not Gaga.Montage said:
What a ridiculous statement!Montage said:
You could say it about any popstar who's audience is primarily the gays.
Or flip it round and say One Direction only like girls because they buy their crap.
She's spent 25 years playing to that market, are you suggesting she only does it for the money and they'll be the only ones to buy it...?
The reason why Kylie is a gay icon confounds Kylie herself.
I don't remember where I heard this from, perhaps it was from Kylie herself, but an explanation that makes sense is that Kylie was heavily criticised as a puppet, singing budgie etc early in her career (and, hey, even now) when all she was trying and wanted to do was to be herself and to do what she wanted to do - similar to "the gays" being ostracised for just trying to be who they were.
I don't remember where I heard this from, perhaps it was from Kylie herself, but an explanation that makes sense is that Kylie was heavily criticised as a puppet, singing budgie etc early in her career (and, hey, even now) when all she was trying and wanted to do was to be herself and to do what she wanted to do - similar to "the gays" being ostracised for just trying to be who they were.
Eric Generic said:
I'd like it very much if she'd just record a proper decent song again. The list of disappointments from the KM camp in the past 5 years is too depressing to deal with. I just kinda think in my head she stopped making records after 'I Believe In You'.
I think if she wants to continue to make non-songs, then just bite the bullet and do another IP type album. At least that way we will get something interesting again.
I worked at Parlophone when that last album was made and it shocked me to the core to see how it was cobbled together. I just want someone to A&R her again.
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She's had a heap of amazing songs post 'I Believe in You'. 'The One', 'Wow', 'In My Arms', 'All The Lovers', 'Get Outta My Way', etc, etc.
I know it's all very subjective as to what is good and bad but I feel she's released two decent albums with some stellar tracks (and some... not so stellar tracks).
I know it's all very subjective as to what is good and bad but I feel she's released two decent albums with some stellar tracks (and some... not so stellar tracks).
IMO Aphrodite was her most cohessive album for years, possibly since Fever, and All the Lovers and Get Out of My Way two of her finest recordings, but each to their own.
I wrote my thesis on culural gay icons. My theory is that as well as all the triumph over adverstity stuff, she represents a sort of simple joy. She is clean, pure, her music is postive, powerful, sexy yet not submissive or aggressive. She also has a old school Hollywood style allure. We actually know very little about her as a person and she has succesfully kept herself to herself for 25 years. She has a dignity that few celebrities have, which was cermented during her fight with cancer.
All of these themes were played with in the Aphrodite era, which I actually thought was quite clever.
I wrote my thesis on culural gay icons. My theory is that as well as all the triumph over adverstity stuff, she represents a sort of simple joy. She is clean, pure, her music is postive, powerful, sexy yet not submissive or aggressive. She also has a old school Hollywood style allure. We actually know very little about her as a person and she has succesfully kept herself to herself for 25 years. She has a dignity that few celebrities have, which was cermented during her fight with cancer.
All of these themes were played with in the Aphrodite era, which I actually thought was quite clever.
I have a theory that Kylie never recovered from the Fever album tracks being sub-standard. The singles were amazing but millions bought the album and were probably put off buying another one. There's been some great moments since but you end up thinking she's a singles artist rather than an album artist. I know people will jump all over this and bang on about Impossible Princess but at the end of the day without record sales there won't be a record...
I'm interested to hear what she does next. The fact that she's celebrating 25 years is amazing. I can see her on stage, aged 80, like Eartha Kitt.
I'm interested to hear what she does next. The fact that she's celebrating 25 years is amazing. I can see her on stage, aged 80, like Eartha Kitt.
I agree with these points generally, but why specifically do these make her a gay icon? Why would her being 'sexy yet not submissive or agressive' be appealing to gay people? Or her 'old school Hollywood allure?' The latter may be something she shares with other gay icons, but what is the link between this and gay people liking her? I find the link between gay people and 'dignity' slightly hard to swallow also (thinking particularly of my own lack thereof)magnatron591 said:
After the huge success of Fever and the resulting workload of promoting an album in the US as a new artist, and touring as an established artists in Europe simultaneously - she was determined not to rush into a new album. There was quite widespread and not-exactly-denied talk at the time of her having a nervous breakdown following the tour. If you watch Kylie's interviews from that era, and compare them to now, she's a totally different person. She's like a robot.
But Parlophone got their way - and pushed out a new album earlier than even the most hardcore fan was asking for one.
This is one of Terry Blamey's failings if you ask me. She clearly trusts him dearly, but I don't feel he's ever been particularly good at protecting her from the pressure from her label - or herself - to work, work work and in particular, to stick to release deadlines rather than take time making sure she has the best material.
As touring has become more and more lucrative, both Madonna and Kylie have suffered from a sort of 'this-will-do-ism' when it comes to album quality; with the notion that albums for them have simply become excuses to tour.
But Parlophone got their way - and pushed out a new album earlier than even the most hardcore fan was asking for one.
This is one of Terry Blamey's failings if you ask me. She clearly trusts him dearly, but I don't feel he's ever been particularly good at protecting her from the pressure from her label - or herself - to work, work work and in particular, to stick to release deadlines rather than take time making sure she has the best material.
As touring has become more and more lucrative, both Madonna and Kylie have suffered from a sort of 'this-will-do-ism' when it comes to album quality; with the notion that albums for them have simply become excuses to tour.
doggie said:
To this end, why is anyone an icon for anything?
For gay people, because there haven't been very many openly gay superstars (and those who come out tend to do so later in their careers), I guess the community latches on to figuative sympathisers to the cause, those we/they believe to be 'on side'.
It's like the Judy Garland 'Friend of Dorothy' schtick, most female gay icons are kind of 'ultimate fag hags'.
When you break it down I don't really get it either, only some of these people have advocated gay causes in return for longterm fan support.
I've always found Kylie to be quite straightforward about it, there's no pretence about her iconic status. As someone else already said, she's apparently confused by the sentiment. She's always been very passive about it, which is why I find her more likeable than, say, Lady Gaga.