“There’s still a bit that’s missing that keeps the Disco era from feeling complete to me,” she says, citing her desire to do a “mini-Disco tour” !!!
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“There’s still a bit that’s missing that keeps the Disco era from feeling complete to me,” she says, citing her desire to do a “mini-Disco tour” !!!
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I swear she says the same thing about Slow before every album and it never happens.
Great interview with Vogue. She looked truly stunning in those photos too!
Why in the world does Madonna need do adapt to Kylie's pop sensibilities, especially when Disco's lyrics are actually insulting to the listener's intelligence? I've never seen cliches so shamelessly embraced.
Let Kylie do what Kylie does and let Madonna do what Madonna does. There are so many artists you can get light pop from.
Also, pop sensibilities are overrated. The same old uptempo hook-based music about the same tiresome escapist subjects over and over and over again gets old as fuck. The idea of Madonna going from making songs as interesting to listen to as Batuka or Extreme Occident and then reverting to some frothy dance-pop nonsense pains my soul.
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Madame X pot calling the Disco kettle black.
Yes yes yes! I need this from her.
I can’t actually believe we’re doing Kylie vs Madonna in 2022. Move on.
Yep. Kylie AND Madonna. Embrace both icon goddesses.
Madame X's lyrics are bad in a few places and Killers is lowkey dangerous in terms of its Colonial ethos (especially when her fanbase seems content with believing its just clumsiness rather than violence), but nowhere does Madame X have lyrics like these:
"The stars look different tonight
They're glowing all around me
It's flowing through my body
I can feel it, I can feel it
Don't know if I'm awake or dreaming
There must be something in the air"
It truly boggles the mind. Even at its absolute worst, Madame X is grasping for something. I will take Madonna showing her ass politically over lyrics that had just absolutely no effort put into them whatsoever.
And honestly, Madonna has conquered the form of the pop song so many times in her career. The idea of making straightforward pop music probably bores the shit out of her at this point. Some of the worst moments on Rebel Heart and MDNA were the songs where she tried her hand at a basic bop.
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A battle is certainly more interesting than people repetitively stanning these artists within an inch of their lives in every single thread.
I wasn't even trying to pit them against each other though. I just find the idea that Madonna should be following Kylie's model to be absurd. Madonna is not going to make an album like Disco and I wouldn't expect Kylie to make an album like Madame X. As much as both women share strengths in having immaculate singles runs and being gifted popstars, a lot of what Kylie does, especially these days, is not in Madonna's DNA as an artist. The idea that she should somehow be more like another artist who she ultimately doesn't have a whole lot in common with just rubs me the wrong way.
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Comparing Kylie and Madonna is a bit like apples and oranges. They're both doing such different things now from the other and there's plenty of room for both of them in the industry.
My original point was that if there is a (very highly improbable) collaboration I hope it sounds more like a Kylie song because that's where my own pop taste gravitates towards and that's what I like.
And yes, I love Magic and I belt out those very lyrics when the song comes on. The whole Disco album is a huge sing-a-long for me.
Slow as a jumping off point creatively is interesting, as in it doesn’t have to sound like that but she’s wanting to make something that pushes her creatively in the way that did. Very interested in what that might mean. I hope she’s reaching out to some fantastic collaborators for this.
It doesn't need to be a lyrical masterpiece. There are very few albums out there (in any genre) that are legit lyrical masterpieces. But I do expect a little effort. Words, after all, are a pretty integral part of a song.
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I guess it's fair to want a collaboration to lean toward one of the artists' sound or the other, but Madonna doing a current Kylie sound sounds like a disaster to me. It would be so contrived and I feel like Madonna would sound just as bored as she did on some of MDNA's most cynical cuts. Interestingly enough, I think Kylie would have saved a couple of those songs with her lighter vocal touch.
And I understand liking Magic and belting it. It has a good tune. But I can't get past the lyrics. They come off like they were written by some alternative rock fanboy writing a parody song solely to make fun of how supposedly stupid and empty pop lyrics are.
But your example is…not bad? Like I genuinely can’t see what’s wrong with the lyrics you pointed out. They’re silly and fun, but hardly diabolical.
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Kylie fans stanning Kylie in a Kylie thread. The audacity! IN what world is that worse than people puffing their chests out in a failed attempt to pit two women against each other in 2022?
Nobody is coming at Kylie fans for stanning Kylie. Why in the world would anybody have a problem with that? But you best believe I will clap back at the constant little passive aggressive (and sometimes explicit) shots that are always taken at Madonna from a couple usual suspects.
Also, I absolutely have no issue with pitting two artists against each other musically. It is done all the time. The whole "we can never compare two artists" unspoken rule is silly and contrived (not to mention hypocritical in most cases). But honestly, the intention was never to pit them against each other.
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An album of Slow’s, yes please.